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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 04:59
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Originally Posted by Obba
Ludicrously pro russian twitter account. Why would ukraine attack the same time the IAEA are due to visit. Calling Bull**** on anything from its twitter
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Is it true about 370+ Ukrainian soldiers died (Apparently UK trained), in barges heading for the nuclear plant....?
Some photo's about showing the large Orange/Brown barges and one with smoke coming out of it...
That's a pro-Russian twitter account so unless there are more credible accounts I'd just forget it.
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To be fair to the hospital, he was fine whilst a patient. His health only experienced a rapid decline after he left the building….
It wasn't leaving the building that killed him, it was arrival at the pavement. Converting V^2'ds to splatter in the distance of deformation of the squidgy bits gives the peak g (peek?) Which determines the splatter platter. Add to that the bits inside the noggin accelerating towards the stopped yorick bits and there is a lot of frap. 6 floors is a fairly good probability of doing the desired accidental cessation of existence.

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 06:14
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Well they did transfer a lot of their best forces to the south, what did they expect to happen….



Russian sources hysterical; claiming Ukrainians began attacking in Kharkiv direction.



Also noticing a few Russian channels what I would describe frantically asking witnesses of Ukrainian troop, ammo, vehicles, air defence to come forward and submit data to this telegram bot: @zov_sirius_bot

Perhaps some NAFO intervention would be useful?

Seriously, at least 5-6 big channels suddenly woke up at 3am Moscow time to ask for data.
Can we not oblige in reporting Ukrainian forces surrounding the Kremlin? Would be a good target for Russian arty to lob a few 152's at. That's a win-win for everyone. Media get their first story, the followup and then perhaps an opportunity to convert from propaganda to news.
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 06:19
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I agree with you, not all Russians are bad, but sadly those that are drag the rest of you down, the one I cannot understand is Vladimir Solovyov , he pushes for killing the west, destroying our way of life yet owns a villa in Italy, if you haven’t seen it, it is here, someone has thrown red paint over it and dye in the pool

https://ru.espreso.tv/news/2019/10/2...dysta_soloveva

The we will nuke you back to the Stone Age “guests” on these shows I take with a pinch of salt, the we can destroy Britain with one nuclear missile etc always fails to mention the several thousand missiles that would be heading in the opposite direction..
I cannot believe people actually watch this stuff and believe it.

Far from wanting to cancel your culture and make the word Russian evil, no one wants to cancel your culture, it is more that after Bucha and the murders of men and the rape of women and children, the west no longer wants anything to do with you as a whole, nothing to do with your culture. It is not helped with Russian tourists attacking Ukrainian refugees in western cities either.
A few hundred thousand individuals have tarnished the country and it will be along time until that is resolved, it has also sadly made the Word Russian evil.
Remember no one invited Russia into Ukraine and yes I know it is a leadership doing it, but they are not the ones on the ground, destroying, killing, raping and looting, that is the Russian soldiers and again it tarnishes all those those that want nothing to do with it. Without standing up and saying No, it makes people complicity to what is happening.

To be honest the only way I can see Russia ever being accepted back into the world anytime soon is if they have a regime change, pull out of Ukraine in total, and that means all regions, Crimea included, pay reparations to Ukraine for the damages etc and hand over those guilty of war crimes to some form of world court for trial, similar to Nuremberg after the war.
Standing up and saying No works in Hollywood movies, but sometimes doesn’t in the real life. There’s many reasons why that’s close to impossible at the moment, but that’s a very long story, don’t even want to start it here. In any case - please, stop watching Solovyov, that’s super unhealthy, even worse than smoking. Just like any other propaganda. As for the war crimes, all of them have to be investigated by an independent authority, but again, I’m talking about the crimes conducted by both sides. It would be naive to think that there are only bad guys on one side and only good ones on the other. Don’t drag me in the conversation who started the whole thing, I get the point but don’t want to discuss it here. Same goes for Crimea. Why don’t let people living there decide for themselves where they’d like to stay?
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 06:28
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Putin's propagandists on state TV casually discuss terrorist acts against Americans and murdering liberal opposition, all of whom they suspect of working with Western intelligence agencies. They openly advocate murdering Ilya Ponomarev, who lives in Kyiv.

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 06:53
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Interesting findings regarding Russian T80's. To make it short: Ukrainians have captured a T80 with only 900hrs on the clock. Also, it has white rollers which was typical to soviet era parade equipment. (see the first link underneath for the one captured by Ukrainians and the second link to a youtube clip of 1986 red square victory day parade, you can see the kit at 5:12)
So, in essence either the russkies were prepared for a victory parade in Ukraine or they are really scraping the barrels to deliver any roadworthy tank available to the battle field, even though it may mean that the Red Square parade 2023 will be held by limping infantry only.

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 07:10
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https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...tl-ldn-vpx.cnn

1 war criminal identified .possibly. hopefully. to add to the list of 20,000 or so im sure's being created.


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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 09:03
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Originally Posted by Obba
Interesting story.

So, bad guys smoke good guys. Good guys happen to have parking tickets and laundry tags from Aldershot? Seriously, anywhere else the British suntan would be a dead giveaway, but, in Ukraine and Russia, hard to tell that they were Uak trained by their suntan.

Calling B/S on the story...

Add timing where the UN is certain to be there...

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Originally Posted by Obba
In these cases click on the name of the person posting and look at his posts, they are all anti Ukraine pro Russian, so I would take it with a pinch of salt, at the same time as this was happening the IAEA were arriving at the Nuclear plant and attack helicopters were firing into the local town area, they were using the "barge" as a reason, probably to put off the inspectors and to justify the helicopters in the air firing close by to the inspection teams. If it was indeed full of Ukrainain troops and they had been killed Russia would have pictures of them all over the media.
Incidentally these are the same type of barges they were using to try and erect a pontoon bridge.

an example of there bullsh*t, do you not find it strange that one of the supposed chemical or biological warfare sites marked on that map is in Kherson, but strangely, it hasn't been all over the Russian media?



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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 11:05
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Meanwhile regarding the ongoing war, Russian Armed Forces is struggling to recruit volunteers in st. Petersburg area with only 100 volunteers recruited in two months (big surprise).
The surprise is that Pravda is actually reporting this issue and blaming the local government for sabotaging the recruitment program! They really claim that it's not that there weren't willing volunteers but the authorities are to blame.
I'll bet there will be an open window waiting for governor Beglov...

Originally Posted by pravda.ru Author Olga Lazareva 28.08.2022 12:05
Smolny sabotages the creation of St. Petersburg volunteer battalions
For the second month in St. Petersburg, people are being recruited into three volunteer battalions: "Neva", "Kronstadt" and "Pavlovsk". But despite promises of good salaries, bonuses and jobs in less dangerous places, only about a hundred people have been recruited in all this time.

According to Kommersant, over 40 volunteer units have been formed in Russia in recent weeks to participate in a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine. Most of them have already started training and service. But in St. Petersburg, the debugged mechanism failed. Units go to battalions.

According to sources in the military registration and enlistment offices, as well as in the city administration, the reason lies not in the unwillingness of volunteers to participate in the special operation, but in the fact that the city authorities are actively sabotaging recruitment into battalions.
The duty to attract volunteers was entrusted to the district administrations, which as quickly as possible shifted all responsibility to the military registration and enlistment offices and, as sources assure, they safely forgot that they needed to call someone somewhere. As a result, the only recruitment action was the summons, which were massively placed in the mailboxes of the city. This was written by the St. Petersburg edition of "Fontanka" back in July.

At the same time, according to the administration of the Krasnogvardeisky district, the reason for such a restrained campaign lies in the fact that instructions were issued from Smolny, but they did not give money for their implementation, and in fact, they did not give explanations on how and with what to attract people.

“We were told that the work should be carried out through municipal deputies. They say that they must recruit at least twenty people each as volunteers through their electorate. When the deputies asked for help with campaigning, Smolny reported that the districts and the deputies themselves. The city administration itself will not participate in this, "they said in the Krasnogvardeisky district.

Even more interesting is the situation with the media component of the set. Initially, the governor's press service and the Regional Management Center planned to arrange a large-scale campaign to attract volunteers. Opinion leaders, artists, musicians, many posts on social networks were planned. The plan was brought to Governor Alexander Beglov for signature. And quite unexpectedly for everyone, the mayor did not coordinate it.

“As they say in the SDG, Beglov looked at the media company’s plan and said that he definitely wouldn’t allocate money for this from the budget. It’s enough for him that the city pays money to these volunteers and volunteers. in St. Petersburg, he doesn’t need to shake the situation so restlessly and once again. Like, work it out somehow and close the topic as soon as possible. As if three hundred people won’t be gathered in the “quiet” districts, "said one of the Smolny officials.

But as it turned out, they did not collect. Over the past three weeks, they tried to report to the governor that the recruitment is far from being as rosy as we would like. But Beglov allegedly constantly brushed it off.

Meanwhile, in the neighboring Leningrad region, things are going much more actively. They are already reporting on the almost complete staffing of their two nominal artillery battalions - "Nevsky" and "Ladoga". And here is the paradox: most of the volunteers came from St. Petersburg.

https://www.pravda.ru/districts/1740...skie_batalony/
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 11:55
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Russian propagandist showing the IAEA inspectors how "Ukrainian" shells make miraculous U-turns.
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Can't say no?



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Ouch! As claimed, A Russian vehicle carrying 200 TM-62 AT mines ran over a Ukrainian mine in the vicinity of #Zaporizhzhia, and was totally destroyed.

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In the “Morning starts not with a coffee” tweet, are those normal markings or a D-Day style addition for the counter?
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 16:01
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I have moved some of the purely political posts to the Jet Blast thread.
Please do your best, esteemed colleagues, to focus this thread on military matters.
We all realize that political matters and military matter often overlap.
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Remember the supposed attack on the Nuclear plant, Russia has released images of the immaculately dressed Ukrainian dead without a sign of a wound on any of them, with the usual Nazi badges, American dollars lol etc.. while carefully avoiding showing their faces etc, some of them appear to have a remarkable healthy colour to them for dead people too.


Also about the inspection, I hope the inspectors had the presence of mind to bring sat phones with them

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...nergoatom.html
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In my earlier thread on 'officer slavery' in Russia, I highlighted the poor living conditions and mistreatment of many Russian junior officers. Not surprisingly, this drives many of them to quit. But Russia's military bureaucracy often deliberately makes this hard to do.

For the first thread, see below. In this second and final thread, I'll highlight the experiences of officers who've tried to quit, and why those who chose to stay have done so.….

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 17:59
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Having cut it for a few days for “maintenance”, Russia has now cut off Nord Stream 1 “indefinitely.

A reaction to the high level of reserves reported by Germany and the drastic fall in price yesterday as a result….

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