Brazil goes for Gripen NG
Brazil's decision to procure the Saab JAS 39 Gripen E to satisfy its F-X2 fighter replacement programme has breathed new life into the company's Sea Gripen concept, a source told IHS Jane's on 19 December.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said that the deal for 36 aircraft for the Brazilian Air Force "opens up a whole new realm of possibilities" for the Sea Gripen, with the Navy having a notional requirement for 24 aircraft to operate from its Sao Paulo aircraft carrier.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said that the deal for 36 aircraft for the Brazilian Air Force "opens up a whole new realm of possibilities" for the Sea Gripen, with the Navy having a notional requirement for 24 aircraft to operate from its Sao Paulo aircraft carrier.
So how do these 4.5 Gen jets all actually compare?
As a non-expert, it is hard to make a judgment - they all seem quite similar.
Sort of like the way modern cars all look roughly the same.
F-16, Eurofighter, Rafale, Gripen.
I suspect it's a subject of great debate amongst all of you.
But can anyone who really knows provide a 25 word or less summary?
F-16 - very capable and successful, but expensive. Nations often heavily pressured to buy by Uncle Sam.
Eurofighter - seems to be highly manouverable and well powered, but expensive, late and only now just due to get AESA etc?
Rafale - the French answer to Eurofighter, and no foreign sales yet.
Gripen - smaller, cheaper and relatively up to date.
Am I right?
As a non-expert, it is hard to make a judgment - they all seem quite similar.
Sort of like the way modern cars all look roughly the same.
F-16, Eurofighter, Rafale, Gripen.
I suspect it's a subject of great debate amongst all of you.
But can anyone who really knows provide a 25 word or less summary?
F-16 - very capable and successful, but expensive. Nations often heavily pressured to buy by Uncle Sam.
Eurofighter - seems to be highly manouverable and well powered, but expensive, late and only now just due to get AESA etc?
Rafale - the French answer to Eurofighter, and no foreign sales yet.
Gripen - smaller, cheaper and relatively up to date.
Am I right?
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Higher numbers of lower tech platforms rather than Lower numbers of higher tech ones.
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Rafale - the French answer to Eurofighter, and no foreign sales yet.
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Can't be discounted, but why did the process take so long them? If the differences were that stark, and that was the criteria, seems an easy choice. From what I've read, the military were leaning towards Boeing.
In the end Brazil decided that being fiscally-responsible trumped political considerations - must have not been enough bribes offered below the President/General level.
Since Brazil is replacing 12 Mirage 200 and 57 F-5EM/FMs (also called F-5BR), Gripen is more than sufficient... and there will almost assuredly be at least one more batch bought before the currently-planned 2030 out-of-service date for both the F-5s and the AMX (60).
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Brazil to double air fleet as part of $10.6 billion investment
SAO PAULO — Brazil plans to invest 52.8 billion reals (U.S. $10.6 billion) for research, development and equipment acquisition efforts for its military, including nearly doubling the size of its Gripen fighter fleet and financing projects by local aircraft manufacturer Embraer for aerial refueling planes, the government announced earlier this month.
The measure, revealed Aug. 11, is part of the government’s Growth Acceleration Program, or PAC, established by President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. PAC guided programs during his first two terms in office, which lasted from 2002 to 2010, and there are now plans for the overarching initiative to spend 1.7 trillion reals, with defense a key area of focus.….
The PAC does not require the legislature’s approval, as it is a federal investment program funded by government resources, state contributions and the private sector through concessions.….
For the Brazilian Air Force, the plan involves the production and acquisition of 34 F-39 Gripen fighters, which would almost double the country’s fleet. Brazil signed a $5.04 billion contract with Swedish manufacturer Saab in 2014 for the purchase of 36 Gripen fighters, for delivery by 2027. In 2022, the signatories added four more fighters to the contract.
Of the 40 now on order, Brazil has received six, with four in operation. The contract stipulated that assembly for 15 F-39E Gripens would take place at Embraer’s factory in Gavião Peixoto in the state of São Paulo.….
“The renewal of the fighter aviation [fleet] is one of the main projects of the Brazilian Air Force covered in the new PAC, and is being realized through the acquisition of the Gripen fighter,” Defense Minister José Mucio Monteiro Filho told Defense News. “It is the most modern combat aircraft in Latin America, enabling Brazil to significantly enhance its air defense capability in line with the country’s continental dimensions.”
The minister also pointed to another program under PAC: the purchase of nine C-390 Millennium planes — initially known as KC-390 — produced by Embraer, along with the development of a refueling version of the model.
“Besides its military role, the KC-390 can be used in national and international humanitarian aid actions, such as supporting public emergencies and firefighting,” he said.
The government website also mentioned plans to convert two Airbus A330 aircraft into aeromedical and aerial refueling planes.
Brazil to double air fleet as part of $10.6 billion investment
SAO PAULO — Brazil plans to invest 52.8 billion reals (U.S. $10.6 billion) for research, development and equipment acquisition efforts for its military, including nearly doubling the size of its Gripen fighter fleet and financing projects by local aircraft manufacturer Embraer for aerial refueling planes, the government announced earlier this month.
The measure, revealed Aug. 11, is part of the government’s Growth Acceleration Program, or PAC, established by President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. PAC guided programs during his first two terms in office, which lasted from 2002 to 2010, and there are now plans for the overarching initiative to spend 1.7 trillion reals, with defense a key area of focus.….
The PAC does not require the legislature’s approval, as it is a federal investment program funded by government resources, state contributions and the private sector through concessions.….
For the Brazilian Air Force, the plan involves the production and acquisition of 34 F-39 Gripen fighters, which would almost double the country’s fleet. Brazil signed a $5.04 billion contract with Swedish manufacturer Saab in 2014 for the purchase of 36 Gripen fighters, for delivery by 2027. In 2022, the signatories added four more fighters to the contract.
Of the 40 now on order, Brazil has received six, with four in operation. The contract stipulated that assembly for 15 F-39E Gripens would take place at Embraer’s factory in Gavião Peixoto in the state of São Paulo.….
“The renewal of the fighter aviation [fleet] is one of the main projects of the Brazilian Air Force covered in the new PAC, and is being realized through the acquisition of the Gripen fighter,” Defense Minister José Mucio Monteiro Filho told Defense News. “It is the most modern combat aircraft in Latin America, enabling Brazil to significantly enhance its air defense capability in line with the country’s continental dimensions.”
The minister also pointed to another program under PAC: the purchase of nine C-390 Millennium planes — initially known as KC-390 — produced by Embraer, along with the development of a refueling version of the model.
“Besides its military role, the KC-390 can be used in national and international humanitarian aid actions, such as supporting public emergencies and firefighting,” he said.
The government website also mentioned plans to convert two Airbus A330 aircraft into aeromedical and aerial refueling planes.
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Presumably from the Brazilian production line with Columbia providing components and support?
President of Colombia, Petro Gustavo, is set to visit Saab facilities in Linköping to learn about the production of the Saab Gripen E and how it could become Colombia’s next fighter jet.
The Swedish are promoting financial benefits and industrial proposals for their offer.
President of Colombia, Petro Gustavo, is set to visit Saab facilities in Linköping to learn about the production of the Saab Gripen E and how it could become Colombia’s next fighter jet.
The Swedish are promoting financial benefits and industrial proposals for their offer.
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Interesting….
The @fab_oficial is officially looking to procure 24x second-hand F-16 Fighting Falcons from the United States.
A Brazilian officer confirmed to @JanesINTEL that the Air Force is in early negotiations, however is expected to decide by end of 2024.
https://www.janes.com/osint-insights...for-used-f-16s
The @fab_oficial is officially looking to procure 24x second-hand F-16 Fighting Falcons from the United States.
A Brazilian officer confirmed to @JanesINTEL that the Air Force is in early negotiations, however is expected to decide by end of 2024.
https://www.janes.com/osint-insights...for-used-f-16s
