Possible Nuclear Accident
The UK/US 'nukes' discussion has been very informative to this ex 'truckie' who may well have transported nuclear material in the Herc. (RLF ?)
I wonder if anyone can comment on what the early USSR nuclear devices were like from a safety and effective point of view.
I wonder if anyone can comment on what the early USSR nuclear devices were like from a safety and effective point of view.
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CM, spares wise there were some bits 
The batteries were SAFT and I bought some of these one time. The SEF key as well was probably designed at great expense through an MOD contract but not patented. I first found an advert in Motor Sport where you could change your ignition lock to this new barrel type.
Next they were fitted to gaming machines and now to security locks of all sorts.
In RAF use the keys were in unique pairs for each weapon. We found one unique pair was identical with another unique pair. I can't remember how we found out.
The batteries were SAFT and I bought some of these one time. The SEF key as well was probably designed at great expense through an MOD contract but not patented. I first found an advert in Motor Sport where you could change your ignition lock to this new barrel type.
Next they were fitted to gaming machines and now to security locks of all sorts.
In RAF use the keys were in unique pairs for each weapon. We found one unique pair was identical with another unique pair
. I can't remember how we found out.
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last time I saw a bomb truck was on the A33 north of Basingstoke a couple of years back - it was parked in a lay-by by itself and was accompanied by a very bored looking copper in a panda car - so I guess it was empty and had broken down en-route during the night................
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Dunno about the " bomb" truck but I am very regularly seeing a mil plated foden IIRC heavy hauler with the Shiniest curtainsider and a " funny" tint to the cab windows.
Not hard to spot an SNM truck either coming or going from Guzz....
I like to play spot the subtle escort vehicle.
I haven't yet managed to catch a glimpse of a flask wagon on the railway but I hear slow heavy trains rolling up the line late at night.
I'm a sad spotter ain't I.
Not hard to spot an SNM truck either coming or going from Guzz....
I like to play spot the subtle escort vehicle.
I haven't yet managed to catch a glimpse of a flask wagon on the railway but I hear slow heavy trains rolling up the line late at night.
I'm a sad spotter ain't I.
PN,
Yes indeed. The keys have appeared on threads here. Sorry, the "unique" keys. But doesn't it make you feel good to know all the good things like security keys that came out of our nuclear programme?
Maybe the Pikeys were only after the easily disposable spares and not the physics package. If only they'd realized how warm it would have kept their caravans at night.
cornish-stormrider,
Probably a good thing being a "sad spotter" of these things where you are. It must be very comforting for you that they found such a good use for some of those disused tin mines. Fortunately, the background radiation from the granite-produced radon will mask the small additional emissions from the waste.
Yes indeed. The keys have appeared on threads here. Sorry, the "unique" keys. But doesn't it make you feel good to know all the good things like security keys that came out of our nuclear programme?
Maybe the Pikeys were only after the easily disposable spares and not the physics package. If only they'd realized how warm it would have kept their caravans at night.
cornish-stormrider,
Probably a good thing being a "sad spotter" of these things where you are. It must be very comforting for you that they found such a good use for some of those disused tin mines. Fortunately, the background radiation from the granite-produced radon will mask the small additional emissions from the waste.
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As a v young schoolkid in early 70s Plymuff, long before I could tell the difference between Mutton Cove, Union Street and the oddly-bumpy Crownhill, I do remember being given iodine tablets 'just in case' we needed them.
One day, I would like to know a bit more about that.
One day, I would like to know a bit more about that.
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Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
CDC Radiation Emergencies | Facts About Potassium Iodide (KI)
CDC Radiation Emergencies | Facts About Potassium Iodide (KI)
KI (potassium iodide) is a salt of stable (not radioactive) iodine that can help block radioactive iodine from being absorbed by the thyroid gland, thus protecting this gland from radiation injury.
The thyroid gland is the part of the body that is most sensitive to radioactive iodine.
People should take KI (potassium iodide) only on the advice of public health or emergency management officials. There are health risks associated with taking KI.
KI (potassium iodide) does not keep radioactive iodine from entering the body and cannot reverse the health effects caused by radioactive iodine once the thyroid is damaged.
Table salt and foods rich in iodine do not contain enough iodine to block radioactive iodine from getting into your thyroid gland. Do not use table salt or food as a substitute for KI.
Do not use dietary supplements that contain iodine in the place of KI (potassium iodide). They can be harmful and non-efficacious. Only use products that have been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
The thyroid gland is the part of the body that is most sensitive to radioactive iodine.
People should take KI (potassium iodide) only on the advice of public health or emergency management officials. There are health risks associated with taking KI.
KI (potassium iodide) does not keep radioactive iodine from entering the body and cannot reverse the health effects caused by radioactive iodine once the thyroid is damaged.
- KI (potassium iodide) only protects the thyroid, not other parts of the body, from radioactive iodine.
Table salt and foods rich in iodine do not contain enough iodine to block radioactive iodine from getting into your thyroid gland. Do not use table salt or food as a substitute for KI.
Do not use dietary supplements that contain iodine in the place of KI (potassium iodide). They can be harmful and non-efficacious. Only use products that have been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
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The Foden was the TCHD Mk2, I only ever came across the tractor unit which was a heavily modified rigid truck to take a 5th wheel as well as all the security devices, I do know the cab weighed in excess of 3 tonnes. A pity Foden fell foul of, allegedly, miss-management.
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CM, ty.
In 1974 the convoy was more discrete. A couple of RAFP on Norton (IIRC) bikes, the load carrier and tractor and a spare load carrier and tractor. There then followed a 'bread van'.
While it looked like a bread van it was then resplendent in matt green paint. It contained the immediate crash rescue kit.
That and a JU was your lot.
They were only just considering terrorist threats and discussing the possibility of RM stand-off escorts. Naturally, with turf wars, there was light blue resistance to another service taking part in our super secret work.
In 1974 the convoy was more discrete. A couple of RAFP on Norton (IIRC) bikes, the load carrier and tractor and a spare load carrier and tractor. There then followed a 'bread van'.
While it looked like a bread van it was then resplendent in matt green paint. It contained the immediate crash rescue kit.
That and a JU was your lot.
They were only just considering terrorist threats and discussing the possibility of RM stand-off escorts. Naturally, with turf wars, there was light blue resistance to another service taking part in our super secret work.
Do you mean this one?
WE177 carefully craddled in a white-painted antique bookcase.
And here's the photo taken at the scene of a Foden truck having a puncture on the A1.
WE177 carefully craddled in a white-painted antique bookcase.
And here's the photo taken at the scene of a Foden truck having a puncture on the A1.
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TBH no-one would notice..............
of course the BIG UK near-miss was the collision between HMS Vanguard & Le Triomphant in 2009
FHS - TWO SSBN's............ I know there have been a few bumps between SSN's but that one really takes the biscuit
I thought ramming went out in the 1890's/.................
of course the BIG UK near-miss was the collision between HMS Vanguard & Le Triomphant in 2009
FHS - TWO SSBN's............ I know there have been a few bumps between SSN's but that one really takes the biscuit
I thought ramming went out in the 1890's/.................
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CM, you are joking .
Given what you did to Sadam's bunkers I don't know how that would have survived
.Given what you did to Sadam's bunkers I don't know how that would have survived
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And there were some other close shaves:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24280831
Originally Posted by Heathhrow Harry
TBH no-one would notice..............
of course the BIG UK near-miss was the collision between HMS Vanguard & Le Triomphant in 2009
FHS - TWO SSBN's............ I know there have been a few bumps between SSN's but that one really takes the biscuit
I thought ramming went out in the 1890's/.................
of course the BIG UK near-miss was the collision between HMS Vanguard & Le Triomphant in 2009
FHS - TWO SSBN's............ I know there have been a few bumps between SSN's but that one really takes the biscuit
I thought ramming went out in the 1890's/.................
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
In 1974 the convoy was more discrete. A couple of RAFP on Norton (IIRC) bikes, the load carrier and tractor and a spare load carrier and tractor. There then followed a 'bread van'.
While it looked like a bread van it was then resplendent in matt green paint. It contained the immediate crash rescue kit.
That and a JU was your lot.
They were only just considering terrorist threats and discussing the possibility of RM stand-off escorts. Naturally, with turf wars, there was light blue resistance to another service taking part in our super secret work.
While it looked like a bread van it was then resplendent in matt green paint. It contained the immediate crash rescue kit.
That and a JU was your lot.
They were only just considering terrorist threats and discussing the possibility of RM stand-off escorts. Naturally, with turf wars, there was light blue resistance to another service taking part in our super secret work.
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WEBF
Do you think that an accidental collision between two vessels each with a reactor and maybe a total of 96 warheads is SAFE????
Probably the warheads wouldn't go off (but that's the subject of this whole thread) but if the reactor area had been hit and breached rather than a rather slow bump amidships then you would certainly have had some radioactive spillage
Do you think that an accidental collision between two vessels each with a reactor and maybe a total of 96 warheads is SAFE????
Probably the warheads wouldn't go off (but that's the subject of this whole thread) but if the reactor area had been hit and breached rather than a rather slow bump amidships then you would certainly have had some radioactive spillage