RAF Club Thread: Not in Good Health
Champagne anyone...?
The opportunity is there for the Sgt's son. He gets commissioned. Duh.
Anyway, the RAF Club isn't open to all sundry because we don't want you bloody peasants in there soiling it with your beer stained ties, polyester suits, appalling table manners, public flatulence, dreadful northern accents and general all round frightfulness.
Just FYI.
Anyway, the RAF Club isn't open to all sundry because we don't want you bloody peasants in there soiling it with your beer stained ties, polyester suits, appalling table manners, public flatulence, dreadful northern accents and general all round frightfulness.
Just FYI.
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Nutloose and thing, you both show a massive inferiority complex.
Why, for one moment, do you think I would expect you to doff your cap to me?
I may well be the one who has the manners and acumen to doff my cap to you.
Do you really think your egalitarian utopia exists?
I don't go up to retired ACMs and say hello Bill, hello Paddy, and recognise that even retired they are still of a higher status than you or I.
May be you would, I don't know.
Why, for one moment, do you think I would expect you to doff your cap to me?
I may well be the one who has the manners and acumen to doff my cap to you.
Do you really think your egalitarian utopia exists?
I don't go up to retired ACMs and say hello Bill, hello Paddy, and recognise that even retired they are still of a higher status than you or I.
May be you would, I don't know.
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The opportunity is there for the Sgt's son. He gets commissioned. Duh.
Anyway, the RAF Club isn't open to all sundry because we don't want you bloody peasants in there soiling it with your beer stained ties, polyester suits, appalling table manners, public flatulence, dreadful northern accents and general all round frightfulness.
When I was in the RAF I showed respect to all those who were above me in rank. Occasionally this respect was begrudged if the person in question was considered by me to be less than deserving of their position. More often it was given freely and happily, I was lucky to have many good bosses.
I am no longer in the RAF. A retired ACM has the same status as me, a retired Cpl, we are both civilians. All retired members of the armed forces are civilians.
I take people as I find them. If someone treats me like I'm dirt on their shoe they will be left in no doubt what I think of them, regardless of who they are or what they were. If someone is reasonable and polite towards me I will reciprocate, regardless of whom they are, or what they do, or in fact did, for a living.
I am no longer in the RAF. A retired ACM has the same status as me, a retired Cpl, we are both civilians. All retired members of the armed forces are civilians.
I take people as I find them. If someone treats me like I'm dirt on their shoe they will be left in no doubt what I think of them, regardless of who they are or what they were. If someone is reasonable and polite towards me I will reciprocate, regardless of whom they are, or what they do, or in fact did, for a living.
....beer stained ties, polyester suits, appalling table manners, public flatulence, dreadful northern accents and general all round frightfulness.
? In any case, such folk would be totally confused by the fact that 'tea' in the Club is served before 'dinner'.....
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Jeez! What a fatuous argument! If a privately run club choses to restrict it's membership to one armed bus drivers called Marmaduke it is free to do so, and if you're not in that group go join another club, don't whinge about "unfairness". It's nothing to do with unfairness, it's just what a business (probably guided by it's clientele) choses to do. Get over it and stop being so bloody self-righteous. You cant join a synagogue if you're a catholic - is that unfair? What a ridiculous concept!
If it were a council or gubmint run club (ie a public one) that would be different. It isnt.
If it matters that much to you go join the Royal Navy club. They let anyone in. Even non com crabs and bus drivers.
If it were a council or gubmint run club (ie a public one) that would be different. It isnt.
If it matters that much to you go join the Royal Navy club. They let anyone in. Even non com crabs and bus drivers.
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I am no longer in the RAF. A retired ACM has the same status as me, a retired Cpl, we are both civilians. All retired members of the armed forces are civilians.
End of the day it was just a Job, which they had as I have, left.
Has anyone said "should have worked harder at school" yet??
And, yes, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of those that have held, or currently hold, a rank between AC and WO who are far better educated than those who hold PO to ACM but it seems playground rules are in force!
Just out of curiosity does anyone know if there are any former WW2 era NCO aircrew (who were not subsequently commissioned) who were offered, held or currently hold membership?
And, yes, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of those that have held, or currently hold, a rank between AC and WO who are far better educated than those who hold PO to ACM but it seems playground rules are in force!
Just out of curiosity does anyone know if there are any former WW2 era NCO aircrew (who were not subsequently commissioned) who were offered, held or currently hold membership?
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I agree entirely. What pisses me off is that they decide to come here asking for help and when it is offered chose to dress people down like some LAC under their command. That's what bothers me... Not the fact they have their club, but rather they can't manage to run it effectively yet some still try to maintain some semblance of superiority that is clearly unjustified. The damn thing has been around for what, a hundred years, and the silly bastards still can't make it work... and they have the temerity to look down their noses at others...
I agree entirely. What pisses me off is that they decide to come here asking for help and when it is offered chose to dress people down like some LAC under their command. That's what bothers me... Not the fact they have their club, but rather they can't manage to run it effectively yet some still try to maintain some semblance of superiority that is clearly unjustified. The damn thing has been around for what, a hundred years, and the silly bastards still can't make it work... and they have the temerity to look down their noses at others...
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You're not making the "difference" in those children's lives that you think you are you know Tom.
Drop it, you'll never quite get it which is the whole point of this discussion...
Drop it, you'll never quite get it which is the whole point of this discussion...
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Nutloose and thing, you both show a massive inferiority complex.
Do you really think your egalitarian utopia exists?
I don't go up to retired ACMs and say hello Bill, hello Paddy, and recognise that even retired they are still of a higher status than you or I.
May be you would, I don't know.
May be you would, I don't know.
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Champagne anyone...?
Literally (not figuratively) the funniest thing I've read on this slowly declining forum in years!
A big thanks to those of you who've taken time out from your busy Daily Mail letter writing schedule to give us a brief glimpse of the years of pent up rage at the injustices you have been subjected to! I for one fully support your campaign for immediate membership for all of the RAF Club followed by its subsequent razing to the ground!
ЦP THЗ ЯЭVФLЦTIФИ CФMЯДDЗS! FФЯШДЯD TФ THЭ GДTЗS ФF THЭ ЯДF CLЦЬ ДЙD DЗДTH TФ THЭIЯ HДTЗD MЭMЪЗЯSHIP PФLICУ!!
Anyway, I can tarry here no longer. These servants won't birch themselves you know.
Pip pip.
A big thanks to those of you who've taken time out from your busy Daily Mail letter writing schedule to give us a brief glimpse of the years of pent up rage at the injustices you have been subjected to! I for one fully support your campaign for immediate membership for all of the RAF Club followed by its subsequent razing to the ground!
ЦP THЗ ЯЭVФLЦTIФИ CФMЯДDЗS! FФЯШДЯD TФ THЭ GДTЗS ФF THЭ ЯДF CLЦЬ ДЙD DЗДTH TФ THЭIЯ HДTЗD MЭMЪЗЯSHIP PФLICУ!!
Anyway, I can tarry here no longer. These servants won't birch themselves you know.
Pip pip.
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Thing, I accept what you say although you are inaccurate in one respect. I did not leave the RAF a long time ago.
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Nutloose and thing, you both show a massive inferiority complex.
Nutloose and thing, you both show a massive inferiority complex.
If that's what you believe PN then please carry on in that belief, who am I to burst your bubble.
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Thing, I accept what you say although you are inaccurate in one respect. I did not leave the RAF a long time ago.
Well, Stoppers, I've learned one thing from this thread - it seems that there actually is a school in Barnsley....
I'll go to the fooot o' oower sterrs....
I'll go to the fooot o' oower sterrs....