AAC Islander crew selection board
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AAC Islander crew selection board
Has anyone seen the results of the Islander selection board yet?
I believe they were due out last Wednesday but certain individuals papers hadn't reached the board yet.
Not a pre-decided board by any chance
I believe they were due out last Wednesday but certain individuals papers hadn't reached the board yet.
Not a pre-decided board by any chance
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Mmmmm..... I've heard this.
What I find strange is that the board was supposedly delayed because of a lack of applicants.
(If that is so, who were they waiting for, because shouldn't the board select from those applying bt the closure date?)
From what I could grasp, every man and his dog applied. (Mainly because of the flying rate in this forsaken place maybe).
AAC football team for the World Cup.
Hardest team to beat.............Keep moving the goalposts to suit !!!!
What I find strange is that the board was supposedly delayed because of a lack of applicants.
(If that is so, who were they waiting for, because shouldn't the board select from those applying bt the closure date?)
From what I could grasp, every man and his dog applied. (Mainly because of the flying rate in this forsaken place maybe).
AAC football team for the World Cup.
Hardest team to beat.............Keep moving the goalposts to suit !!!!
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Didn't apply, but lets not rag the got to be in it to win it fraternity.
Do object to the QHI thing tho' as what a waste of tax payers money!
Guess MW as QHI wasnt as glam as he'd been led to believe!
Do object to the QHI thing tho' as what a waste of tax payers money!
Guess MW as QHI wasnt as glam as he'd been led to believe!
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'Av not seen the list, was a QHI from EGVP on the list?
If this is true, then it's a complete U turn by the goal post moving specialist at Glasgow
Maybe the recent crop of would be plank drivers, who have not made it to the end of the course, (for what ever reason) have caused a policy change.
Can't imagine why a QHI wouldn't be happy at the home of Army Avn
Keep doing it safely
If this is true, then it's a complete U turn by the goal post moving specialist at Glasgow
Maybe the recent crop of would be plank drivers, who have not made it to the end of the course, (for what ever reason) have caused a policy change.
Can't imagine why a QHI wouldn't be happy at the home of Army Avn
Keep doing it safely
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Only a rumour, but.....
Someone to remain nameless,
1. Hacked off with AAC leaves, slagging us all off on leaving the mess. (I was there)
2. With ATPL(A) gets nice job.
3. Sept 11 occurs.
4. Asks to re-join.
5. Gets accepted on whatever terms.
6. Applies/told to apply for certain course.
7. Is placed on said course.
[the future]
8. Job market picks up.
9. Person now having built up lots of ME hours courtesy of MCM applies for job.
10. Yet another slagging off, on the way out of the mess.
*end piece* what the f*MCM*k is going on?
Someone to remain nameless,
1. Hacked off with AAC leaves, slagging us all off on leaving the mess. (I was there)
2. With ATPL(A) gets nice job.
3. Sept 11 occurs.
4. Asks to re-join.
5. Gets accepted on whatever terms.
6. Applies/told to apply for certain course.
7. Is placed on said course.
[the future]
8. Job market picks up.
9. Person now having built up lots of ME hours courtesy of MCM applies for job.
10. Yet another slagging off, on the way out of the mess.
*end piece* what the f*MCM*k is going on?
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Wouldn't it be easier if the RAF flew them and then there wouldn't be any in house gripes, justified or not?
Anyway why does it take 120 hrs of fixed wing time to get a type and instrument rating which most military guys could get on an equivalent civvy aeroplane in about 20-30 hrs?
You could take the Pumas off our hands in exchange for the Islanders and then the SAMA AAC Mafia would be complete. No one else down there to get in your way!
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Anyway why does it take 120 hrs of fixed wing time to get a type and instrument rating which most military guys could get on an equivalent civvy aeroplane in about 20-30 hrs?
You could take the Pumas off our hands in exchange for the Islanders and then the SAMA AAC Mafia would be complete. No one else down there to get in your way!
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Palm Tree mate,
I hear from an emerald toilet chum that a large % of the AAC Islander flight IS RAF! Couple of Albert blokes downsizing type on exchange. Bit of a manning problem by all accounts.
Could be a case of failure to invest in the past...lose it in the future perhaps!
I hear from an emerald toilet chum that a large % of the AAC Islander flight IS RAF! Couple of Albert blokes downsizing type on exchange. Bit of a manning problem by all accounts.
Could be a case of failure to invest in the past...lose it in the future perhaps!
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Muff:
Your maths is sadly very poor. The flt at the moment is 100% Army. The Herc mate that 1 Flt very kindly trained, is now at the other mil Islander unit.
HPT:
Now what mafia would that be? Seems to be running smoothly there at the moment. I wonder why that is?
Tube:
It is not mandatory as the last board has proved.
Wile:
Do you think the QHI that was selected is just going to do most of the course and do a bunk? Surely not. I always thought it a clever ploy at Middle Wallop as a QHI to intend to leave, and then get extended at MW because others had to be posted to the field Army. To leave and then negotiate terms of service to include the Isl course is sheer brilliance, if true. It is a bit worrying to hear the SNCO of the Regt in which I serve indicating that the board result in his case was already decided. Surely that is just a scurrilous rumour.
Your maths is sadly very poor. The flt at the moment is 100% Army. The Herc mate that 1 Flt very kindly trained, is now at the other mil Islander unit.
HPT:
Now what mafia would that be? Seems to be running smoothly there at the moment. I wonder why that is?
Tube:
It is not mandatory as the last board has proved.
Wile:
Do you think the QHI that was selected is just going to do most of the course and do a bunk? Surely not. I always thought it a clever ploy at Middle Wallop as a QHI to intend to leave, and then get extended at MW because others had to be posted to the field Army. To leave and then negotiate terms of service to include the Isl course is sheer brilliance, if true. It is a bit worrying to hear the SNCO of the Regt in which I serve indicating that the board result in his case was already decided. Surely that is just a scurrilous rumour.
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Muff
Jeep is indeed (as usual) correct. The RAF bloke left some time ago. However, the last boss is now on Hercs and at least one other ex Isl pilot is now wearing light blue.
Can't really understand why the AAC want this role given the hastle that the selection, training and retention proves to be for DAAvn/SAAvn. Giz a job
Jeep
All running smoothly because we have eventually cottoned on that the pair always wanted to hold hands, even when there was no need. Understand a bit of ash/gash and trash as a singleton is now in order.
HPT
Jeep is indeed (as usual) correct. The RAF bloke left some time ago. However, the last boss is now on Hercs and at least one other ex Isl pilot is now wearing light blue.
Can't really understand why the AAC want this role given the hastle that the selection, training and retention proves to be for DAAvn/SAAvn. Giz a job
Jeep
All running smoothly because we have eventually cottoned on that the pair always wanted to hold hands, even when there was no need. Understand a bit of ash/gash and trash as a singleton is now in order.
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There is nothing SECRET or even vaguely RESTRICTED about there being a Station Flight at Northolt. If you are indeed insinuating that with the 'Need to Know' comment, then perhaps you might care to look at the Official RAF Web Site!!
http://www.raf.mod.uk/stations/f_stn.html
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There is nothing SECRET or even vaguely RESTRICTED about there being a Station Flight at Northolt. If you are indeed insinuating that with the 'Need to Know' comment, then perhaps you might care to look at the Official RAF Web Site!!
http://www.raf.mod.uk/stations/f_stn.html
RAF Northolt: One of the key airfields in the defence of London during the Battle of Britain, Northolt became the major airport for London in 1946, until the new site at Heathrow opened. Transport Command continued using Northolt after this, and the role of providing VIP air transport is the major task of the airfield today. The unit based at Northolt responsible for VIP transport is No 32 (Royal) Squadron which operates 5 BAe125s, 2 BAe146s and 3 Squirrel HCC1s, and incorporates the aircraft of the former Queen's Flight. Lesser units based at Northolt include No. 1 (County of Middlesex) Maritime Headquarters Unit and a small Station Flight operating a single Islander CC2
It never ceases to amaze me that the only way to get on this Corps is to stand up in your pram and scream that you are going to throw your rattle out until you get what you want. Obviously, it therefore follows that those nearest the top have been the biggest tantrum throwers. If the individual concerned planned all this from the outset, then, as Jeep says, he is to be admired and not pilloried.
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What a lot of fuss - If one wants the job that badly why not go down the road, show your PPL (fixed wing) and do a twin endorsement on the BN2, return to base, flash said endorsement and ask Them to explain how they could possibly justify NOT giving you the job, since you are already type rated and will save them oodles of dosh?
Mr Khan. That has been tried by more than one person but the Corps has far more fun cutting off it's nose just to give it's face a lesson. The short answer is with anything, as soon as you introduce a selection process, you are going to upset more people than you please. Two pages (and probably some more) on Pprune bears me out.
(Edited because I forgot to use the spool chucker)
(Edited because I forgot to use the spool chucker)
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Lets get the facts and the record straight.
RIGHTS
Yes I did get my ATPL last year. Yes I did sign off. Yes Sept 11th happened and yes I did sign back on as a result.
WRONGS
When I signed off at no time did I slag off the Mess, the Army or any individual and if WlLE E COYOTE is suggesting that it was me that he heard doing so, he is a liar. When I signed back on there were no secret deals or handshakes and no jobs were either offered or asked for. I applied for the Islander slot just like a truck load of others in response to the signal that everyone else had access to. Still no secret deals or handshakes. I get the slot.
Am I trying to enhance my CV? Yes probably, but I have to give a 3-year return of service, which will put me within 3 years of a pension. Now even those of you with sour grapes on one shoulder and chips on the other have got to admit that I’m unlikely to leave at that point. This means that I will effectively give a 6-year return. How many of you who applied and were not selected, could say the same? More to the point, how many of you who posted adverse comments about my selection applied?
Now if anyone disputes the facts above, they are of course welcome to give me a call to discuss it. I would especially like to hear from WILE E COYOTE if he is indeed suggesting that it was me he heard slagging off all and sundry. Just in case you amaze me and actually do want to call me, my contact details are as follows:
Martin McGrath
MW ext. 4286
RIGHTS
Yes I did get my ATPL last year. Yes I did sign off. Yes Sept 11th happened and yes I did sign back on as a result.
WRONGS
When I signed off at no time did I slag off the Mess, the Army or any individual and if WlLE E COYOTE is suggesting that it was me that he heard doing so, he is a liar. When I signed back on there were no secret deals or handshakes and no jobs were either offered or asked for. I applied for the Islander slot just like a truck load of others in response to the signal that everyone else had access to. Still no secret deals or handshakes. I get the slot.
Am I trying to enhance my CV? Yes probably, but I have to give a 3-year return of service, which will put me within 3 years of a pension. Now even those of you with sour grapes on one shoulder and chips on the other have got to admit that I’m unlikely to leave at that point. This means that I will effectively give a 6-year return. How many of you who applied and were not selected, could say the same? More to the point, how many of you who posted adverse comments about my selection applied?
Now if anyone disputes the facts above, they are of course welcome to give me a call to discuss it. I would especially like to hear from WILE E COYOTE if he is indeed suggesting that it was me he heard slagging off all and sundry. Just in case you amaze me and actually do want to call me, my contact details are as follows:
Martin McGrath
MW ext. 4286
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'As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.,'
However, in Martin's case, I doubt it!
However, in Martin's case, I doubt it!