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Old 12th Sep 2012, 06:56
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More information (plus picture of the wrong variant - it shows a Voyager KC3) here:

EADS Tanker Loses Boom Over Spain

Tankertrashnav, the KC-10 has had both systems for at least 25 years now - and some have wing pods as well.

Boeing-lovers seem to overlook the KC-767I buffet and flutter farce, forgetting that the KC-767 wing hose system took years to develop and still has significant limitations - although admittedly no bits fell off during trials......
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Who was it said "Boom Boom and awaaaaaaay!!?
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Defense News: Refueling Boom Falls off Airbus A330 Tanker During Test Flight

.....LONDON — An Airbus Military A330 tanker’s refueling boom fell off during a test flight over Spain, Airbus said.

The plane, scheduled to be delivered to the United Arab Emirates later this month, was flying in a region between Madrid and Portugal when the incident happened at 7:30 p.m. local time Sept. 10.

An Airbus Military spokesman said it was “too early” to give any indication as to the cause of the mishap. The spokesman said Airbus had “advised the Royal Australian Air Force as a precautionary measure to stop using the boom until further investigations had taken place.”..........

The UAE aircraft was flying at 27,000 feet conducting a series of tests, including deploying the boom, when the system fell away at the point where it links to the fuselage..........

The Airbus Military crew manning the A330 was deploying the boom when it fell from the fuselage, people familiar with the incident said........
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Beagle - thanks for the info. As the last time I trailed a hose was in November 1976 you will have to forgive my ignorance about what to me is still a modern aircraft
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After the first one, they might have twigged that, 'pushing it into the hole, really hard', is not an engineering norm. Rather, a big nail or a couple of pop rivets might do a better job. I always think that the goop you put round the bath is better than nothing, but it has to have time to dry.

They can feel free to use my ideas.

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Airbus had “advised the Royal Australian Air Force as a precautionary measure to stop using the boom until further investigations had taken place.”..........

Very nice of Airbus, but RAAF has never used the boom. The RAAF probably noticed issues when the first one fell off a RAAF owned jet during Airbus testing, but as the boom is not yet certified on the RAAF KC-30 they have never lowered it from boom stowed position in flight.
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yes gh, you are right.

A39-001 (the boom incident with Port F-16) is still in CASA_Spain/Airbus_France having the boom fitted and brought up to final configuration. Was to be delivered in December.

Meanwhile, the other 3 'accepted' jets (002,3 and 4) are in service with 33SQN undergoing OT&E, but not with the boom, just AT and drogue. 005 is still with QDS in BNE I think, for delivery shortly.
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BBadanov, has there been any PR release about how well the Commonwealth's new tanker/transport jet fared during EX. PITCH BLACK?

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The Royal Australian Air Force has deployed its newest aircraft, the KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport, to RAAF Base Townsville for Exercise Pitch Black 12.

This deployment is the first multi-national exercise for the KC-30A, which is designed to perform airborne refuelling.


http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenew...2/aug/0810.htm

From what I remember, the tanker was flying every day during PB12 doing the job it was supposed to.

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005 departed Brisbane more than a month ago for Spain for final acceptance tests.
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After the first one, they might have twigged that, 'pushing it into the hole, really hard', is not an engineering norm. Rather, a big nail or a couple of pop rivets might do a better job. I always think that the goop you put round the bath is better than nothing, but it has to have time to dry.

They can feel free to use my ideas.

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CG, Your engineering talents were wasted.

Thankfully.

What's wrong with black bodge tape, anyway? We always carried a roll or two for the nose bay.....

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Wouldn't happen on a UK one... Gordon Brown clearly said he had got rid of the Boom/Bust cycle


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Not forgetting plastic tie-wraps. You need one of those to hang up the roll of bodge tape.

And you need a bit of black bodge tape to hold the tie-wraps in a bundle.
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S-T, only if you fly Pumas...S-K and Gaz use `speed-tape`..under the control of a SNCO(competent)..
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Why would they need "speed" tape on a Sea King? Surely, Sellotape would be quick enough at those speeds.
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Found this, text not English I'm afraid, but the picture shows the damage to the back of the jet... And a picture paints etc!

Un Airbus Military A330 MRTT pierde la pértiga de repostaje en vuelo | Fly News

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Old 14th Sep 2012, 07:10
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From the link in the previous post ...


ACTUALIZACIÓN
Airbus Military ya ha localizado y recuperado la pértiga.

La ruptura se produjo a 27.000 pies.
What have the inflight rations got to do with the boom falling off?

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Old 14th Sep 2012, 08:51
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This version will obviously be of interest to the Scottish Air Force, should they go independent, yeller gait

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Tankertrashnav,

I wonder if we ever flew together.
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Waltzing Matilda....again?

Does one gather that yet another RAAF KC-30A nearly parted company with its boom recently.....??

How's the serviceability of the others - and the spares support....
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