Scotland would get 18 fast jets plus 26 helos if it splits
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If the majority of Scots wish to leave I see no problem. Maybe one day Wales and Northern Ireland will also wish to have a vote. At the end of the day if the majority of people wish to be free of the London elite I can understand that! I wish to be free of the Brussels elite even more though!
Maybe Anglia could walk away from the UK
In some ways this is like the break up of the USSR, assuming that is the Scots do actually vote to leave!
If I was Scottish I would certainly be voting to leave.
But at the end of the day my gut feeling is they will not vote to leave.
Maybe Anglia could walk away from the UK
In some ways this is like the break up of the USSR, assuming that is the Scots do actually vote to leave!
If I was Scottish I would certainly be voting to leave.
But at the end of the day my gut feeling is they will not vote to leave.
Hold the bus LJ! Don't tar us all with the SNP brush!
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I have a very healthy regard for Scotland with a Scottish Brother-in-Law and my mother being a Brown from Fife (and not related to the monocular idiot either
).I'm just fed up with all the Braveheart and Saltire b0ll0cks coming out of Scotland for the past 20 years - it just encourages the other idiots about St George's, Welsh Dragons (and a next to useless language unless you live there or a small part of Patagonia) and bloomin' made up nationalism like St Piran's flags of Cornwall. The UK is small enough as it is without losing Scotland. But I think "call me Dave (with a Scottish surname!)" is right to call the SNP's bluff - either put up or F off. The Scottish Parliament, Welsh and Northern Ireland Assemblies are all costing us dearly - someone has to pay for these extra politicians and their grandiouse meeting buildings and it's all of us in the UK! Why can't we go back to Westminster running the UK?
All the apparent bribing of the Scottish populace going on by the SNP is shameful. My Brother-in-Law, as a successful Scottish businessman (and Freeman of London), knows that a SNP victory will clobber his business as he gets to pay even more taxes to pay for all of the SNP's promises. So much so, that he is already drawing a contingency plan together to sell up, leave his beloved Scotland and retire early - he is not alone.
Our combined country's great visionaries and forefathers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain must be turning in their graves at what we have become as a divided nation (I K Brunel, A G Bell, J L Baird, A Flemming, Rolls and Royce, A Turing, T Caxton, R Watson Watt, to name but a few). Instead some choose to listen to the unwise like Salmond, Connery, Ferguson, etc...
Wake up Great Britain before it's too late...
...right, back to my Speckled Hen before the Pub shuts...
LJ
and a next to useless language unless you live there
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What use is Norwegian to those who don't live in Norway, or Thai to those not living in Thailand?
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What use is Norwegian to those who don't live in Norway, or Thai to those not living in Thailand?
Well strangely enough Norwegian is the first language in Norway, and Thai is the first language in Thailand. Welsh (and Gaelic in Scotland) is not the first language and is spoken by a minority of the population.
The cost of replacing all of the road signs, changing them from English to English and [insert dead language here], is a real and unnecessary expense at a time of alleged austerity.
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"If the trident force have to leave scotland, it will surely cost a fortune, a fortune we (the uk, inc scotland) can ill afford at the moment"
Indeed - I suspect this may be a final nail in the grave of the SSBN fleet - cost of the move (Plymouth I guess) and then re-equipping will be horrendous
We could of course opt to operate them out of USN facilities in the USA which would accord witeh realities of "our" deterrent
Indeed - I suspect this may be a final nail in the grave of the SSBN fleet - cost of the move (Plymouth I guess) and then re-equipping will be horrendous
We could of course opt to operate them out of USN facilities in the USA which would accord witeh realities of "our" deterrent
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What happens if Scotland does leave to Scots in the UK armed Forces
presumably if they elect to stay then they are covered buy their current terms of enlistment/commissions etc but if they want to join the Tartan Army they will have to resign and swear an oath of allegiance to wee 'eck and his mates?
presumably if they elect to stay then they are covered buy their current terms of enlistment/commissions etc but if they want to join the Tartan Army they will have to resign and swear an oath of allegiance to wee 'eck and his mates?
What happens if Scotland does leave to Scots in the UK armed Forces
presumably if they elect to stay then they are covered buy their current terms of enlistment/commissions etc but if they want to join the Tartan Army they will have to resign and swear an oath of allegiance to wee 'eck and his mates?
presumably if they elect to stay then they are covered buy their current terms of enlistment/commissions etc but if they want to join the Tartan Army they will have to resign and swear an oath of allegiance to wee 'eck and his mates?
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but can we trust them?
perhaps a full MI5 investigation to see if they if they fail the Tebbit test,drink Irn-Bru, Tennant's and Bells whisky, eat porridge, take the Sunday Post or wear the skirt??
perhaps a full MI5 investigation to see if they if they fail the Tebbit test,drink Irn-Bru, Tennant's and Bells whisky, eat porridge, take the Sunday Post or wear the skirt??
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You missed out haggis, Buckfast Tonic Wine and deep fried Mars bars!
Something that always amazes me about the "skirt" (as you put it).....why do your English women go nuts for it so much? Its more evident the further south you go too. The last time I wore highland dress to a mess do south of the border, a fellow jock and myself were inundated with requests from the ladies. Its fair to say it annoyed some of the male members of the indigenous population!
You missed out haggis, Buckfast Tonic Wine and deep fried Mars bars!
Something that always amazes me about the "skirt" (as you put it).....why do your English women go nuts for it so much? Its more evident the further south you go too. The last time I wore highland dress to a mess do south of the border, a fellow jock and myself were inundated with requests from the ladies. Its fair to say it annoyed some of the male members of the indigenous population!
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So much so, that he is already drawing a contingency plan together to sell up, leave his beloved Scotland and retire early - he is not alone.
Thats if your brother-in-law (and the others) successfully get a visa
So much so, that he is already drawing a contingency plan together to sell up, leave his beloved Scotland and retire early - he is not alone.
Thats if your brother-in-law (and the others) successfully get a visa
Why no vote
Let us say Scotland votes for independence. Then all Scots, those born there not the 'Ron Stewart's', will require a Scottish passport and become full blooded Scots. A lot of these people live out with Scotland and have no vote. Is this democratic, no just another fiddle of the system.
If 'Our Dave' was half the man he thinks he is he would have held out for expat Scots, in or out of the forces, to have a vote. Once again we are sold down the river.
If 'Our Dave' was half the man he thinks he is he would have held out for expat Scots, in or out of the forces, to have a vote. Once again we are sold down the river.
If 'Our Dave' was half the man he thinks he is he would have held out for expat Scots, in or out of the forces, to have a vote. Once again we are sold down the river.
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I can tell you, having asked the MSP for the constituency that our house is in, that Alex Salmond doesn't want us expats to be allowed to vote. You'll get one if you are a non-Scot who happens to be living in Scotland, but not if you are a Scot living abroad.
An English person with two children of 15 and sixteen could get a job in Scotland next year. He would then be in time to be put on the voter's role; as would his now 16 and 17 year old children. They, knowing that they won't be in the country in a couple of years because their dad is going to move on, couldn't care how or why they vote.
Indeed - I suspect this may be a final nail in the grave of the SSBN fleet - cost of the move (Plymouth I guess) and then re-equipping will be horrendous
Surely we should all be concerned with absolutely minimising the cost of the deterrent, 'necessary' evil that it may be.
Salmond clearly couldn't give a toss about such matters.
Scottish Independence
Dear Mr Salmond
If you really want an independent Scotland can I cordially suggest that you let the English vote in your referendum?
Lov and Kisses
CB
If you really want an independent Scotland can I cordially suggest that you let the English vote in your referendum?
Lov and Kisses
CB
I can tell you, having asked the MSP for the constituency that our house is in, that Alex Salmond doesn't want us expats to be allowed to vote. You'll get one if you are a non-Scot who happens to be living in Scotland, but not if you are a Scot living abroad.
At least it excludes Sir Sean Connery!