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Everyone is welcome.
On a more important note, I just noticed the Japan Cupid advert you get if you're not logged in. Maybe not being allowed in the door isn't so bad after all. Is that why we have 5 times as many people viewing as we do logged in.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies2/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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On a more important note, I just noticed the Japan Cupid advert you get if you're not logged in. Maybe not being allowed in the door isn't so bad after all. Is that why we have 5 times as many people viewing as we do logged in.
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"Will you stop posting once you leave the "Mob" then ?"
Yes, I will lose the name Tourist, and move on to other forums. It is possible/likely that I might read occasionally, and even post if something comes up about the past, but I will not post on subjects that I am no longer current.
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You've lost me. Alude more accurately please. I'm happy for you to hint more clearly.
Yes, I will lose the name Tourist, and move on to other forums. It is possible/likely that I might read occasionally, and even post if something comes up about the past, but I will not post on subjects that I am no longer current.
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You've lost me. Alude more accurately please. I'm happy for you to hint more clearly.
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Is it for serving aircrew to discuss current theory and practice? If so it won't get far as its an insecure forum and no current serving are going to risk it.
Is it a forum for old duffers to air old reminisces?
Is it a general discussion forum for all matters of military aviation. not just current?
Is it for educating people from outside the aviation fraternity?
Is it a forum for old duffers to air old reminisces?
Is it a general discussion forum for all matters of military aviation. not just current?
Is it for educating people from outside the aviation fraternity?
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"Will you stop posting once you leave the "Mob" then ?"
Yes, I will lose the name Tourist, and move on to other forums. It is possible/likely that I might read occasionally, and even post if something comes up about the past, but I will not post on subjects that I am no longer current.
Yes, I will lose the name Tourist, and move on to other forums. It is possible/likely that I might read occasionally, and even post if something comes up about the past, but I will not post on subjects that I am no longer current.
With what we have in mind with regards travel I anticipate being way to busy to be coming here on a day to day basis dribbling on about WIWO or pontificating on matters I clearly know nowt about
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As probably one of the older "old duffers" who gave HM her shilling back in 1971 I rarely post on the Mil Aircrew thread anyway, unless it's a historic subject or something which interests me and to which I feel I can contribute.
May I suggest that others like me refrain from contributing to this thread voluntarily for fourteen days (if you have the will power) and leave it to the ultra current, still serving people who fit exactly the description below.
Perhaps we shall then see (lurking only) the improvement that Tourist wishes for.
May I suggest that others like me refrain from contributing to this thread voluntarily for fourteen days (if you have the will power) and leave it to the ultra current, still serving people who fit exactly the description below.
A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here.
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I am saying that we should try to make it less attractive to wierdos and more attractive to current serving military.
A mil forum without mil is embarassing.
Incidentally, If you knew me, then you would know that taking things seriously is something I have very rarely been accused of.
A mil forum without mil is embarassing.
Incidentally, If you knew me, then you would know that taking things seriously is something I have very rarely been accused of.
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Yes, I may well be the most recent recruit to the posters here, but that does not diminish what I have to say. However I was reluctant to offer any comment until I saw some of the nonsense being offered. by others.
As for your comment about me, I can just see that you are rattling that bag of balls, looking for the black one so you can keep your little club private from us interlopers.
Yes, I may well be the most recent recruit to the posters here, but that does not diminish what I have to say. However I was reluctant to offer any comment until I saw some of the nonsense being offered. by others.
As for your comment about me, I can just see that you are rattling that bag of balls, looking for the black one so you can keep your little club private from us interlopers.
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Are you a Tornado man by any chance
Funny your name is something that has not worked for years
Or perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the KF has been reconnected nowadays and I'm out of touch.
Just wanted to check your credentials. Spotter it is then.
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Are you a Tornado man by any chance
Funny your name is something that has not worked for years
Or perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps the KF has been reconnected nowadays and I'm out of touch.
Just wanted to check your credentials. Spotter it is then.
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Perhaps what needs to change is the ease with Krueger Flap and others feel they are able to belittle or question others abilities or history.. As I said earlier, reading this forum one gets the impression that a small (but vociferous) number of the respondents here regard the forum as nothing more than an online version of their own gin-soaked old duffers club, in which newcomers are unwelcome.
What does it mater what someones history is, as log as what he says is valid? And the validity of what is said should be self-evident, or if not, then easily disproved.
What does it mater what someones history is, as log as what he says is valid? And the validity of what is said should be self-evident, or if not, then easily disproved.
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Equally COCL2, one might get the impression that this is a forum for teenagers that have a thing for Tom Clancy and a lack of real world social skills, experience and cynicism that all military share.....
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Just out of interest:
How many of you that have posted here and are opposed to "banning" non-mil (not that it was suggested) are currently serving mil aircrew?
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I have no issue whatsoever with ex-mil, spotters, freaks and weirdos hanging out on this site. My problem is when some of them post "facts" about current mil issues/events with no credibility or actual knowledge. That's all. The site does seem to have gone downhill in recent years, but then again - what hasn't?
I don't think moderation is the answer; in fact, there probably is no answer. We just all have to take whatever is read here with a great pinch of salt.
Who would have thought that on a rumour network!
How many of you that have posted here and are opposed to "banning" non-mil (not that it was suggested) are currently serving mil aircrew?
Didn't think so
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I have no issue whatsoever with ex-mil, spotters, freaks and weirdos hanging out on this site. My problem is when some of them post "facts" about current mil issues/events with no credibility or actual knowledge. That's all. The site does seem to have gone downhill in recent years, but then again - what hasn't?
I don't think moderation is the answer; in fact, there probably is no answer. We just all have to take whatever is read here with a great pinch of salt.
Who would have thought that on a rumour network!
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You may have (perchance unwittingly) hit the nail on the head. A few years ago we could have had threads for a F3/SHAR grudge match, a discussion on the latest GR7/9 'when good VSTOL goes bad' video, some Nimrod dude spinning ASW dits and a Jaguar driver claiming to have taken off with two 14 KG PBs without afterburner....
The amount of jets about has declined dramatically as has the number of drivers and lookers. The 'serving/ ex/ never did' ratio has to have moved away from those actually doing the job.
Give it a couple more years and the Pred community will be on here with their 'there i was in an air conditioned office in Vegas' dits and at that point the pingers will unleash their 'I was in the dip I was' stories that they've had stored up since the cold war.
You may have (perchance unwittingly) hit the nail on the head. A few years ago we could have had threads for a F3/SHAR grudge match, a discussion on the latest GR7/9 'when good VSTOL goes bad' video, some Nimrod dude spinning ASW dits and a Jaguar driver claiming to have taken off with two 14 KG PBs without afterburner....
The amount of jets about has declined dramatically as has the number of drivers and lookers. The 'serving/ ex/ never did' ratio has to have moved away from those actually doing the job.
Give it a couple more years and the Pred community will be on here with their 'there i was in an air conditioned office in Vegas' dits and at that point the pingers will unleash their 'I was in the dip I was' stories that they've had stored up since the cold war.
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Always thought this was (and was meant to be) more like a Happy Hour bar than a crewroom.
The threads are many and varied, as are happy Hour conversations; some are funny, some are interesting and/or informative. Others are none of the above and some are downright silly/puerile/boring (insert disapproving adjective of your choice).
What they have in common (threads and conversations) is that if they don't appeal to you for any reason - you don't have to listen/read or join in.
One hears strange conversations at Happy Hour from some fairly random people - both residents and visitors, but it would be a touche OTT to deny them entry to the bar.
And btw, I am no longer a regular but a reservist. I go to work every day in a (light blue) uniform, get peripherally involved in (military) flying but only very occasionally commit it myself. Still wear the wings though. Still have a MoD 90 as my only ID (wouldn't get into work without it), although I persist in calling it a 1250.
Can I stay please????
The threads are many and varied, as are happy Hour conversations; some are funny, some are interesting and/or informative. Others are none of the above and some are downright silly/puerile/boring (insert disapproving adjective of your choice).
What they have in common (threads and conversations) is that if they don't appeal to you for any reason - you don't have to listen/read or join in.
One hears strange conversations at Happy Hour from some fairly random people - both residents and visitors, but it would be a touche OTT to deny them entry to the bar.
And btw, I am no longer a regular but a reservist. I go to work every day in a (light blue) uniform, get peripherally involved in (military) flying but only very occasionally commit it myself. Still wear the wings though. Still have a MoD 90 as my only ID (wouldn't get into work without it), although I persist in calling it a 1250.
Can I stay please????
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Yes, I quite agree with the Happy Hour Bar idea.
However, to continue down that line I feel that the bar has recently been attracting a lot of Chavs who don't really know the dress code/put the wrong music on the juke-box. The barman doesn't want to throw them out because they cause no real trouble and bring in cash. The Old timers are not going anywhere, after all it's their bar, but the youngsters this bar is really trying to attract are coming in, having a look around and then moving on somewhere where they are not going to have to put up with retards.
Initially, this has no real effect, but slowly over time the bar gradually dies as the old timers move on/forget how to find it until finally it is sold and reappears as a cocktail bar with stupid drinks with umbrellas in.
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How dare you disrespect pinger dits?!
Until now we have merely been shielding you from their awesomeness so that you may continue to fly without the knowledge of your inferiority crushing your spirit. We are nice like that.
Yes, I quite agree with the Happy Hour Bar idea.
However, to continue down that line I feel that the bar has recently been attracting a lot of Chavs who don't really know the dress code/put the wrong music on the juke-box. The barman doesn't want to throw them out because they cause no real trouble and bring in cash. The Old timers are not going anywhere, after all it's their bar, but the youngsters this bar is really trying to attract are coming in, having a look around and then moving on somewhere where they are not going to have to put up with retards.
Initially, this has no real effect, but slowly over time the bar gradually dies as the old timers move on/forget how to find it until finally it is sold and reappears as a cocktail bar with stupid drinks with umbrellas in.
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How dare you disrespect pinger dits?!
Until now we have merely been shielding you from their awesomeness so that you may continue to fly without the knowledge of your inferiority crushing your spirit. We are nice like that.
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