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Well bang goes my theory that he was masquerading as the Manager of a Kebab Shop in Preston.
Finally good riddance. Sadly stand by for the usual ranting repercussions.
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Side stepping Labour's obsession with multiculturalism and the inevitable support that gave to some of our own more extremist bretheren, the Pakistani involvement in Afghanistan is well documented going back to the time of the Mujahideen fighting against the Soviets.
A very good read - Afghanistan The Bear Trap by Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf highlights the Brigadier's role as head of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence and the rag-tag insurgency which as the Brigadier notes clearly on the first page "For 4 years from 1983-19787, it was my task to plan and coordinate these activities".
The only thing that has changed over the years is who the insurgents are currently fighting, and Afghanistan is still of strategic importance to Pakistan, ethnically on the grounds of the presence of Pashtuns on both sides of the AF-Pak border (the concept of Strategic Depth, with Mullah Omar being appointed Amir al-Momineen or Commander of the Faithful and supported logistically by the Pakistani Army) and in an attempt to minimise a growing Indian influence in Afghanistan which the Indians had been nurturing since Pakistan gained independence in 1947.
Given the historical links and strategic importance of maintaining influence in Afghanistan, it was only in the aftermath of 9/11 and Bush's "you're either with us or against us" statement that Pakistan's military rulers were forced to adapt their stance. I think it was always fair to say that elements of Pakistani agencies took a 'pragmatic' approach to Afghanistan, playing both sides of the fence as and when required.
I don't think it is worthy to suggest the Pakistani Government were somehow in collaboration with Mr Obama, sorry Osama, a similar point could be made about our country and all the radical loony toons and their misguided apologists
A very good read - Afghanistan The Bear Trap by Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf highlights the Brigadier's role as head of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence and the rag-tag insurgency which as the Brigadier notes clearly on the first page "For 4 years from 1983-19787, it was my task to plan and coordinate these activities".
The only thing that has changed over the years is who the insurgents are currently fighting, and Afghanistan is still of strategic importance to Pakistan, ethnically on the grounds of the presence of Pashtuns on both sides of the AF-Pak border (the concept of Strategic Depth, with Mullah Omar being appointed Amir al-Momineen or Commander of the Faithful and supported logistically by the Pakistani Army) and in an attempt to minimise a growing Indian influence in Afghanistan which the Indians had been nurturing since Pakistan gained independence in 1947.
Given the historical links and strategic importance of maintaining influence in Afghanistan, it was only in the aftermath of 9/11 and Bush's "you're either with us or against us" statement that Pakistan's military rulers were forced to adapt their stance. I think it was always fair to say that elements of Pakistani agencies took a 'pragmatic' approach to Afghanistan, playing both sides of the fence as and when required.
...or better piss on where he was buried.
Rot in hell, bin Laden, there won't be 72 virgins waiting for you!
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Stu666, use your imagination.
It was rumoured where HRH was to go on his honeymoon. It is not a huge leap of logic to suspect there might be some repercussions from the fanatical.
It was rumoured where HRH was to go on his honeymoon. It is not a huge leap of logic to suspect there might be some repercussions from the fanatical.
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minigundiplomat said....
If his resting place is likely to become a shrine for his followers, why not plant him in a minefield?
Prophets would go through the roof!
OBL - Fish Food!!!
If he's meeting the virgins, no-one said they are females!
Good riddence to trash.
But I fear it's the start of another phase
Prophets would go through the roof!
OBL - Fish Food!!!
If he's meeting the virgins, no-one said they are females!
Good riddence to trash.
But I fear it's the start of another phase
It is a grand day to be an American....and reflect upon how our SpecOps capability has improved since a raid in Iran all those many years ago. The successful operation against Osama is a tribute to all the dedication and hard work of so many people in all levels of our government and military that contributed to this success.
It must also be remembered the contribution made by our friends and Allies as well....in treasure and blood in joining in the fight with us against our foes.
I shall raise a toast (or two dozen) to all this evening.....and hope others do as well.
Well done Lads and Lasses!
It must also be remembered the contribution made by our friends and Allies as well....in treasure and blood in joining in the fight with us against our foes.
I shall raise a toast (or two dozen) to all this evening.....and hope others do as well.
Well done Lads and Lasses!
Given AQ is now using 12 year old suicide bombers, it is hard to imagine how much angrier they can get. I for one am less concerned than yesterday. With any luck they'll launch a wave of planned attacks early that will go off half-cocked due to the rush.
A bit like sending a terrier down; I'm sure the INT types will be watching the holes to see who moves.
Having sailed an ocean, and understanding a little of ocean circulation, I know I am already p!ssing on OBL's grave!
A bit like sending a terrier down; I'm sure the INT types will be watching the holes to see who moves.
Having sailed an ocean, and understanding a little of ocean circulation, I know I am already p!ssing on OBL's grave!
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Why buried at sea, and so quickly? No, really. I'm missing something here. Is it solely to prevent his grave becoming a shrine? So what if it does? Plant few cameras around it and identify a few more of the nutters.
Why not demoralize the feckers and publish plenty of pictures of the dead toerag?
Why not demoralize the feckers and publish plenty of pictures of the dead toerag?
Immediate burial is required under Islamic law, so this will not annoy the moderates. Grave isn't important, fortunately, so burial at sea is not disrespectful. After the furore over the phone vids of Saddam's hanging, pix is the last thing we need.
Sober satisfaction is the way to go.
Sober satisfaction is the way to go.
Stu666, use your imagination.
It was rumoured where HRH was to go on his honeymoon. It is not a huge leap of logic to suspect there might be some repercussions from the fanatical.
It was rumoured where HRH was to go on his honeymoon. It is not a huge leap of logic to suspect there might be some repercussions from the fanatical.
Still, even if they did have advance warning they could easily have gone somewhere else. There is probably more risk now of retaliation against them if they do choose Pakistan.
On another note, let us not forget the Special Forces, including Brits, who would have had him 10 years ago if wasn't for them being called off in the last minute. I imagine this must be a bitter-sweet occasion for them.