Women in Combat
I've met all 3 RAF female pilots mentioned, and served with Julie when she was an Engineering Officer at RAF Brawdy. They all deserved their chances, and took them. Also Helen Gardiner, who was the first female RAF pilot to conduct a live QRA intercept on September 10 1996.
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From what I read, the first female naval aviator to make a carrier landing was an A-6 pilot in 1982 (found this out in a bing search). Kara Hultgren flew EA-6's from 1987 prior to switching over to the F-14...
My question is being that there were females flying attack planes prior to them serving on carriers; were they all flying A-6's?
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That's good to hear.
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BTW: What was the first woman to serve (not as a pilot, just any woman) to serve onboard a US Navy Vessel?
From what I read, the first female naval aviator to make a carrier landing was an A-6 pilot in 1982 (found this out in a bing search). Kara Hultgren flew EA-6's from 1987 prior to switching over to the F-14...
My question is being that there were females flying attack planes prior to them serving on carriers; were they all flying A-6's?
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The USN just announced they were going to let women on subs.
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BTW: What was the first woman to serve (not as a pilot, just any woman) to serve onboard a US Navy Vessel?
Yes, and let's hope the pregnancy rate on subs is lower than it is in the surface fleet. Subs will be in port every couple of weeks changing crew. In Desert Storm I brought home two women (non-fliers) who were three months pregnant after having been deployed for five months.
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In 1995, Solveig Krey of the Royal Norwegian Navy became the first female officer to assume command on a military submarine, HNoMS Kobben.
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And on a sad note:
Today the first female mil pilot of the RNoAF lost her life in Mazar i Sharif when local insurgents stormed the UN camp. The insurgents were mixed in with demonstrators protesting in the wake of the Koran buring by US minister Terry Jones.
Lt. Col Siri Skare (53) was a military advisor with United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA).
As much as 20 persons is feared killed in the attack, with one Swede and several Nepaleese.
I cannot imagine the fear they felt when the hordes climbed the compund wall.
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Today the first female mil pilot of the RNoAF lost her life in Mazar i Sharif when local insurgents stormed the UN camp. The insurgents were mixed in with demonstrators protesting in the wake of the Koran buring by US minister Terry Jones.
Lt. Col Siri Skare (53) was a military advisor with United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA).
As much as 20 persons is feared killed in the attack, with one Swede and several Nepaleese.
I cannot imagine the fear they felt when the hordes climbed the compund wall.
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No it's not...simply an honest opinion allowed in this free speech, democratic, Christian country. You may not like it, and are entitled to voice your opinion, unlike many in most Islamic countries.
Back to the girls in the cockpit.... it didn't happen in my time sadly so I am delighted that they are making headway.
Back to the girls in the cockpit.... it didn't happen in my time sadly so I am delighted that they are making headway.
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I don't think Willard's comment was a disgrace.
Greg Sheridan recently wrote in "The Australian" newspaper:-
I freely accept that people of other religous persuasions do similar acts, but very rarely in the name of their religion. And that is the danger.
Greg Sheridan recently wrote in "The Australian" newspaper:-
Then there is the ever present risk of being labelled a racist. No matter how calmly the discussion is conducted, that is a big danger.
But the only people who don't think there is a problem with Islam are those who live on some other planet. The reputation of Islam in the West is not poor because of prejudiced Western Islamophobia, still less because Western governments conduct some kind of anti-Islamic propaganda. Instead, it is the behaviour of people claiming the justification of Islam for their actions that affects the reputation of Islam.
In January, the governor of the Punjab province in Pakistan, Salman Taseer, was murdered because he opposed the severity of the nation's blasphemy laws. One of his last acts was to visit a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting the prophet. The governor's murderer won wide public support.
ABC television recently showed a documentary on the killing of Ahmediya sect members in Indonesia, among the most liberal Muslim nations, because their Muslim murderers regarded them as a deviant sect.
On YouTube you can watch scenes of a young Afghan woman being publicly flogged because she was seen in the company of a man who wasn't her husband or brother.
In Saudi Arabia, women are not allowed to drive cars.
In Iran, government thugs beat protesters to death to safeguard the rule of the mullahs.
This list could go on and on. It may very well be that the overwhelming majority of the world's Muslims reject such actions. But it is fatuous to try to find a similar pattern of Christian, Buddhist or Jewish behaviour. You can find extremists in every religion and from every background, but there is no equivalence in the size and strength of the extremist tendency in other religions.
But the only people who don't think there is a problem with Islam are those who live on some other planet. The reputation of Islam in the West is not poor because of prejudiced Western Islamophobia, still less because Western governments conduct some kind of anti-Islamic propaganda. Instead, it is the behaviour of people claiming the justification of Islam for their actions that affects the reputation of Islam.
In January, the governor of the Punjab province in Pakistan, Salman Taseer, was murdered because he opposed the severity of the nation's blasphemy laws. One of his last acts was to visit a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting the prophet. The governor's murderer won wide public support.
ABC television recently showed a documentary on the killing of Ahmediya sect members in Indonesia, among the most liberal Muslim nations, because their Muslim murderers regarded them as a deviant sect.
On YouTube you can watch scenes of a young Afghan woman being publicly flogged because she was seen in the company of a man who wasn't her husband or brother.
In Saudi Arabia, women are not allowed to drive cars.
In Iran, government thugs beat protesters to death to safeguard the rule of the mullahs.
This list could go on and on. It may very well be that the overwhelming majority of the world's Muslims reject such actions. But it is fatuous to try to find a similar pattern of Christian, Buddhist or Jewish behaviour. You can find extremists in every religion and from every background, but there is no equivalence in the size and strength of the extremist tendency in other religions.
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Returning to the thread. It may be open to debate as to whether the women of the ATA in WWII were women in combat or not, but they wore military-style uniforms and flew military aircraft.
Given the proximity of Hamble, one of their bases, to the Luftwaffe, I would suggest that there was always a very present danger of being attacked. The prospect of flying unarmed Spitfires with ME 109's a short distance away would not have been part of my preferred vocation. The documentary "Spitfire Women" tells a tale of incredible bravery and dedication. They were women pilots in combat.
Given the proximity of Hamble, one of their bases, to the Luftwaffe, I would suggest that there was always a very present danger of being attacked. The prospect of flying unarmed Spitfires with ME 109's a short distance away would not have been part of my preferred vocation. The documentary "Spitfire Women" tells a tale of incredible bravery and dedication. They were women pilots in combat.
