How does Aus military licencing work?

[LambOfGod]

I'm guessing not much to do with CASA. But if you begin your training having never flown before, and with the RAAF gain your licence. Could you go to your local flying school and get a C172 endo and fly your mates around?

Or would you be required to learn under a CASA SPL/PPL syllabus?

Also, I have this idea that flying Rudd's BBJ or a PC9 would be very different to flying an FA-18. Would you be tested and told you'll be a fighter pilot? Training completely different to other pilots?

And out of curiosity, would you be home almost every night?

Plus.. I'm not being arrogant, just interested in knowing..

[DeeJayEss]

Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Foreign and military licences

Reckon this'll be a good place for you to start Lamb. I'm not a pilot, but an aviator of another breed, and this sort of stuff has often passed my desk. Unfortunately I am not entitled to it...



Might have chosen the wrong profession for an aviation recognition in civvy street!!!

[Arm out the window]

In short, getting your military 'wings' is roughly considered equivalent to a PPL on helicopter or fixed wing as appropriate, and passing an operational conversion course (eg C130 conversion or whatever) to a CPL.
The military graduate could present his or her log book to CASA, fill in the paperwork, pay the fees and be issued a CASA licence.
Instrument and instructor ratings are not automatically issued, but if you've done military ones you are exempted the course of training as mentioned in the regs and can go for the appropriate tests (eg for an instrument rating, sit the IREX and do a flight test - obviously you would also need to be endorsed on VH registered types).
There are some strange little quirks to the system, eg you aren't automatically entitled to formation or aerobatics although all military people will have been written up in their log books for those by the time they get their wings - still need to get a civil instructor to check you out on those, or you did a few years back when I was looking into all this stuff.

[Bullethead]

When I went through the RAAF training system, quite a few summers ago, once you got your RAAF Wings all you had to do to get a CPL was the civvy CPL Air Legislation exam. I'm not sure of the present requirements.

Edit: Having read DJS's reference and AOTW's post it is obvious that things have changed.

Regards,
BH.

[Joker89]

having passed 2FTS I applied and was given a PPL with constant speed prop, retractable gear and pc9 endorsements. Also given a NVFR rating with DME, VOR, NDB. Had to do and english language speaker test though.

[Captain Sand Dune]

Also, I have this idea that flying Rudd's BBJ or a PC9 would be very different to flying an FA-18. Would you be tested and told you'll be a fighter pilot? Training completely different to other pilots?

Ummmmmmm...yes. At the end of pilots course each successful graduate is recommended for a particular type, fast jet, transport, maritme etc. You will then undergo a conversion to type when you arrive at your new squadron.

And out of curiosity, would you be home almost every night?

If you have to even ask that type of question, I question your motivation.

[L J R]

And out of curiosity, would you be home almost every night?

Yes, but sometimes your home is Kandahar.....

[clear to land]

Already holding CPL(A), after 1FTS got Formation and Aeros (Upper) endorsements, after ADFHS received CPL (H), Formation (H) and NVFR (H). ADF flying is a stepping stone for many, and it is good to have an exit strategy-once you are in, badged and on the SQN. Being a military pilot is a way of life-if you don't accept the whole lot you would be unlikely to pass training (I would hope - it is possible to be scrubbed for attitude). If you embrace it you can have a great time, get great experience and then move on to a regular job in aluminium tube relocation, where , if airlines are your aspiration, you definately won't be home every night. Those jobs (in aviation FW or RW), are very few and far between.

[LambOfGod]

Yes, well I would way prefer the civil pilot life. Though people like to say I should apply for the RAAF.
So now I have some good background knowledge into the main aspects of what I would like to know.

Using the ADF to get into Virgin and QF?
No, not realy, why is this what people do? Specifically these two..

Cathay Cadetship?
I thought that was only open to HK citizens, otherwise - hellyeah!!

Other individuals with the wrong attitude?
Why, is the RAAF bad or something?

Hmm, FSP?

Also, are there many pilots in the RAAF that are just smart, only deciding they want to be pilots when they saw that add saying 'Now Applying' on the tv?
*Not to take the piss out of anyone here...

[Load Gone...Red On]

"Also, are there many pilots in the RAAF that are just smart, only deciding they want to be pilots when they saw that add saying 'Now Applying' on the tv?
*Not to take the piss out of anyone here..."

That's what I did...3rd year at university and not enjoying it at all. Saw an ad on TV and applied. It's now been 7+ years since I got my RAAF wings. I wouldn't say that I am particularly smart though...just your average plodder.