Another mate leaving..........
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Another mate leaving..........
Another top bloke is leaving your service at his option! A very experienced front-line flt cdr. His reasons are numerous but generally:
- Paid a small fortune to leave!
- Can't fly enough for the admin triv.
- Poor leadership at the top.
- Had enough of the PC/EO/IIP hypocrisy.
(Sound familiar?)
I remember reading a thread recently about the quality of some airline personnel. They have recruited a generation of our best operators as a result of our 'People are our best asset' line which is simply never backed-up. What will it take for someone, somewhere, to sort this out?
Is anything being done, if so, what?
.....Frustrated tax-payer sends........
- Paid a small fortune to leave!
- Can't fly enough for the admin triv.
- Poor leadership at the top.
- Had enough of the PC/EO/IIP hypocrisy.
(Sound familiar?)
I remember reading a thread recently about the quality of some airline personnel. They have recruited a generation of our best operators as a result of our 'People are our best asset' line which is simply never backed-up. What will it take for someone, somewhere, to sort this out?
Is anything being done, if so, what?
.....Frustrated tax-payer sends........
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Seems like a typical day in the RAF, when will our airships take their heads of out the sand?? It will be the day El Presidente Blair wants to send 2 Sqns of fast jets abroad and we wont have any drivers to sit in them!! Explain that one away with yer IIp's.
Coming soon to a station near you, another Royal Air Farce Fiasco - Operation Budget Cuts.
Coming soon to a station near you, another Royal Air Farce Fiasco - Operation Budget Cuts.
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I agree with the sentiments so far expressed in this thread; we're not doing anything like enough to retain our key personnel. Currently on a det a long way from home but we're hearing rumours here that the RAF is actively trying to recruit experienced foreign nationals to join us. I know we and the Aussies have been poaching each others' guys for years, but is it the answer to our problems to have retired European pilots filling our empty cockpits? Or should we do more to retain the droves leaving for the usual reasons? I stress this is just a rumour we've heard here, but if anyone has heard any more please post it here.
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Horatio,
A small part of my current job is aircrew placement, as a result of this I frequently find myself sat across a desk from ex or soon to be ex military aicrew who responded to an ad or just want to explore the waters on "the other side".
I must say that I am generally very impressed with the quality of the folk I interview, and that the organisation that they are leaving SHOULD be concerned.
HOWEVER............
Another part of my job involves me in some reasonably high level meetings and discussions with senior military folk about ongoing and potential support contracts.
I have to tell you that the one side has no idea or comprehension of how the other feels. This is rather good for me and my company but as a tax payer and ex- RAF type it is deeply disturbing. You have my sympathies believe me, despite my crossed swords from time to time with BEagle. I do believe that something at the very top is rotten, or something on the way there is.
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A small part of my current job is aircrew placement, as a result of this I frequently find myself sat across a desk from ex or soon to be ex military aicrew who responded to an ad or just want to explore the waters on "the other side".
I must say that I am generally very impressed with the quality of the folk I interview, and that the organisation that they are leaving SHOULD be concerned.
HOWEVER............
Another part of my job involves me in some reasonably high level meetings and discussions with senior military folk about ongoing and potential support contracts.
I have to tell you that the one side has no idea or comprehension of how the other feels. This is rather good for me and my company but as a tax payer and ex- RAF type it is deeply disturbing. You have my sympathies believe me, despite my crossed swords from time to time with BEagle. I do believe that something at the very top is rotten, or something on the way there is.
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If the suit fits.........
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For Tom Bell Weed...
The RAF may turn to New Zealand to fill a current shortfall in experienced
fast jet pilots, it emerged today.
Some pilots in the former Royal New Zealand Air Force have become "surplus to
requirements'' due to changes made to undertake peacekeeping duties, Defence
Minister Adam Ingram said in a Commons written reply.
"Details of the personnel directly affected by the restructing have yet to be
released by the New Zealand Defence Staff,'' he said.
"The RAF are closely monitoring the evolving situation and senior British
officers have been in contact with their opposite numbers in Wellington to
highlight employment opportunities in the RAF,'' he said.
The RAF may turn to New Zealand to fill a current shortfall in experienced
fast jet pilots, it emerged today.
Some pilots in the former Royal New Zealand Air Force have become "surplus to
requirements'' due to changes made to undertake peacekeeping duties, Defence
Minister Adam Ingram said in a Commons written reply.
"Details of the personnel directly affected by the restructing have yet to be
released by the New Zealand Defence Staff,'' he said.
"The RAF are closely monitoring the evolving situation and senior British
officers have been in contact with their opposite numbers in Wellington to
highlight employment opportunities in the RAF,'' he said.
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The USA seems to be sliding into recession, Germany is teetering on the brink. Odds-on it will go global. And a usual bellwether of bad economic news will be the cancellation by the airlines of options on new aircraft, a hold on the recuitment of new pilots, and indeed the laying-off of staff. PVR will suddenly become very unfashionable; we will hear much less bleating about the pay and general buggeration factor. And this site may become less boring in consequence.
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In the RN Lynx Fleet we currently have 4 (total) Aussie Pilots and Observers "on loan", along with a Dane, a Brazilian, a Frog, a further Aussie and usually a Yank on exchange. We now even have a Royal Marine on the books.
No Crabs though...........
Who says we're not open minded!
No Crabs though...........
Who says we're not open minded!
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Whoever wrote "Some pilots in the former Royal New Zealand Air Force", needs to resit English. The pilots in question are not former, as they have yet to be released, and the RNZAF is not former either! It will continue to exist, albeit without teeth.
As for the pilots themselves, they are really no different from you lot, in that they are well-trained, with similar ethos, and will be an asset to any air force.They. ike you, are marketable, and while some may choose Australia for the F18 and similar lifestyle, there are others who will opt for the RAF.Good on 'em
As for the pilots themselves, they are really no different from you lot, in that they are well-trained, with similar ethos, and will be an asset to any air force.They. ike you, are marketable, and while some may choose Australia for the F18 and similar lifestyle, there are others who will opt for the RAF.Good on 'em
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What a shame another talented person is leaving. Soon there won't be anyone left between the ages of 38 and 50 except for those with several kids getting boarding school allowance and those who cannot find a civil airline job. The push and pull factors are combining and the RAF will soon end up as just a bunch of navigators writing e-mails to one another at this rate.
I admit to having crossed sword with 'Suit' on several occasions; however, I think we agree on the absurdity of PPP-run FSTA, for example. MFTS I still consider to be nothing more than a desperate clutching at straws by a morally and financially bankrupt MoD(Air); if 'Suit' and his colleagues end up making a healthy profit out of what is basically a public service, then the MoD will be paying through the nose for its own blunders. Sympathy? In the usual place 'twixt $hit and syphilis and closer to squadron leader than sorry!
I admit to having crossed sword with 'Suit' on several occasions; however, I think we agree on the absurdity of PPP-run FSTA, for example. MFTS I still consider to be nothing more than a desperate clutching at straws by a morally and financially bankrupt MoD(Air); if 'Suit' and his colleagues end up making a healthy profit out of what is basically a public service, then the MoD will be paying through the nose for its own blunders. Sympathy? In the usual place 'twixt $hit and syphilis and closer to squadron leader than sorry!
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BEags
Ref the FSTA PPP, you forgot to mention that we will never get our tankers when we need them in "an emergency" (can someone define this?) because the USN will pay more.
Sorry, I'm reading too much other gen!
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Ref the FSTA PPP, you forgot to mention that we will never get our tankers when we need them in "an emergency" (can someone define this?) because the USN will pay more.
Sorry, I'm reading too much other gen!
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....wasn't there, you can't prove I did it!