Is it just a Pprune thing?
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and given birth to his child whilst supposedly married to her son.
Harry gets his colouring from his uncle, (Mothers side) and the dates don't match anyway, Harry was around before the major. Don't you think some creepy a'hole would have given the Daily Mirror some of Harry's DNA by now?
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Perhaps there is a lot to be said about the British "stiff upper lip" approach to............PTSD, etc... What, like the "pull yourself together you coward or you'll be shot at dawn" approach? PPRuNe eh? Just when you think you've heard all the arrse a million monkeys could type on a million typewriters some chimp comes out and dribbles some more over his. Are you only a 'real' casualty of war if you have a limb missing then, junior sub-editor chimp?
Sympathetic treatment with an element of "pull your socks up and start dealing with the cards that you have been dealt" seems, at this early stage, to be working well. However, it will take a long, long time before we can safely say that it is the way to go.
See - a reply which does not stoop the level of personal abuse to which you have descended.
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What some people fail to realize, despite the warnings given on the site home page, is that we are not in some cosy Mess Annex, sharing a beer with like minded colleagues while we engage in social intercourse over common interests, with aviation being the cohesive thread. If we were, we would know what to expect from fellow mess-members: the young sprogs, the been-there-done-it-alls, the old and not so wise, the drinking team captains and the social butterflies. Armed with this knowledge we can structure and adjust our dialogue accordingly to avoid offence and maintain professionalism.
But this is not the mess - it's the internet. Nobody knows who anybody is, all "facts" are questionable until proven otherwise and certain individuals revel in troll-like behavior. After a while you get to spot it pretty quickly, but not always. So the point to all this, and there is one, is that whenever we assume we are articulating a well constructed argument to our social and professional equals, we should not be surprised when we apparently encounter the rantings and ravings of a pre-pubescent spotty youth, who when not engaged in some orgy of onanistic self-destruction via nuns-in-rubber.com, takes a few minutes out to flame the members of PPRune.
Now imagine being a Mod trying to control this - it's almost inevitable that some spirited banter can rapidly become troll-baiting or even troll-like in itself, so with deletions and bannings being the few tools avaiable to control this, you simply end up on the bad bastards list for a while. Just try not to feed the trolls and it gets easier.
But this is not the mess - it's the internet. Nobody knows who anybody is, all "facts" are questionable until proven otherwise and certain individuals revel in troll-like behavior. After a while you get to spot it pretty quickly, but not always. So the point to all this, and there is one, is that whenever we assume we are articulating a well constructed argument to our social and professional equals, we should not be surprised when we apparently encounter the rantings and ravings of a pre-pubescent spotty youth, who when not engaged in some orgy of onanistic self-destruction via nuns-in-rubber.com, takes a few minutes out to flame the members of PPRune.
Now imagine being a Mod trying to control this - it's almost inevitable that some spirited banter can rapidly become troll-baiting or even troll-like in itself, so with deletions and bannings being the few tools avaiable to control this, you simply end up on the bad bastards list for a while. Just try not to feed the trolls and it gets easier.
we should not be surprised when we apparently encounter the rantings and ravings of a pre-pubescent spotty youth, who when not engaged in some orgy of onanistic self-destruction via nuns-in-rubber.com, takes a few minutes out to flame the members of PPRuNe.
who pops up now and again to make abusive posts on this site. Fortunately, his modus operandi is well known and a pattern is emerging.The golden rule is never to feed the troll. It can usually be spotted either trying to mimic a genuine member or by a daft user name and less than 5 posts. It is then soon 'disappeared'.
By the way, research indicates that the website to which Two's in refers does not, in fact, exist......
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quick question from the thick seats.
What is a troll? or have I just made a (and I believe the correct term here is) Wah?
Does one have to join the fail queue?
Back onto the thread, Siseman - I like the sound of robustness in your style of treatment. I always said if i was proper sick (like prob terminal) I would want some absolute bastard for a therapist
"get up, you are not to die on my watch"
"throw up, see if I care. I will only make you clear it up"
"there is plenty worse off than you, stop feeling sorry for yourself, drop, and give me twenty"
Etc - Feel free to use if the needs arise.
What is a troll? or have I just made a (and I believe the correct term here is) Wah?
Does one have to join the fail queue?
Back onto the thread, Siseman - I like the sound of robustness in your style of treatment. I always said if i was proper sick (like prob terminal) I would want some absolute bastard for a therapist
"get up, you are not to die on my watch"
"throw up, see if I care. I will only make you clear it up"
"there is plenty worse off than you, stop feeling sorry for yourself, drop, and give me twenty"
Etc - Feel free to use if the needs arise.
From Wikpedia:
Incidentally, sage antipodean guidance about 'toughening up' can be found here:
YouTube - Toughen up
(Warning, may offend wimps)
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
YouTube - Toughen up
(Warning, may offend wimps)
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I remember travelling to that Palace to leave a single Red-Rose.
I was 9 years old.
She was a good women.
The type of women who attracts the same type of media attention today is Cheryl Cole and Jordan.
Perhaps that is why so many mourned her.
I was 9 years old.
She was a good women.
The type of women who attracts the same type of media attention today is Cheryl Cole and Jordan.
Perhaps that is why so many mourned her.
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"quick question from the thick seats.
What is a troll? or have I just made a (and I believe the correct term here is) Wah?"
"From Wikpedia:
Quote:In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."
What is a troll? or have I just made a (and I believe the correct term here is) Wah?"
"From Wikpedia:
Quote:In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."
Perhaps, but if you really want to understand it, you have to look at the etymology (the bunch of Greeks who were around before Wikipaedia was thought of.)
People who troll aren't 'trolls' - Trolls live under bridges.
'Trolling' is a fishing technique. You move a small boat slowly through water, trailing baited hooks.
Sometimes, you catch a fish which is attracted to the bait; sometimes you catch a fish by foul-hooking.
Either way, it's not sport fishing.
Nothing like that peculiar British sport 'Fly Fishing'
(Why do people go fishing for flies? - The buggers are everywhere; you don't have to go and catch them.
)I knew being a nav radar would turn out to be useful some day ... after all, navigators are the people who tell pilots where to go. The plotter usually did that, so all the nav rad was left with was the privilege of telling them why.
jordanpolonijo, as anyone who'd had insight into the non-public, non-reported side of Diana would undoubtedly agree, you are absolutely correct.
Many of those who laid floral tributes outside the palace had also been there back in 1981 when the Prince of Wales married Lady Diana - perhaps that's why they showed such grief.
Many of those who laid floral tributes outside the palace had also been there back in 1981 when the Prince of Wales married Lady Diana - perhaps that's why they showed such grief.
BEAGLE, I don't think your acquaintance with the "great and the good" (awful phrase, but you know what I mean), has any relevance. We are not referring to those who knew Diana personally, but the multitude who had never even clapped eyes on her in the flesh and who got swept along in the hysteria. I doubt if one in a hundred of the "flower chuckers" had been there at the beginning in 1981.
This is not to knock Diana, I think she was basically a nice kid who had a rough deal in the end, but I still cant feel grief for a total stranger.
This is not to knock Diana, I think she was basically a nice kid who had a rough deal in the end, but I still cant feel grief for a total stranger.
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Hi, just read your post.
Originally by siseman
Sympathetic treatment with an element of "pull your socks up and start dealing with the cards that you have been dealt" seems, at this early stage, to be working well. However, it will take a long, long time before we can safely say that it is the way to go.
Quick question for you. Did you really mean sympathetic, or empathic?
Just asking out of curiosity, as I am sure you realise that the two approaches have markedly differing effects on the patient.
Originally by siseman
Sympathetic treatment with an element of "pull your socks up and start dealing with the cards that you have been dealt" seems, at this early stage, to be working well. However, it will take a long, long time before we can safely say that it is the way to go.
Quick question for you. Did you really mean sympathetic, or empathic?
Just asking out of curiosity, as I am sure you realise that the two approaches have markedly differing effects on the patient.
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In defence of, er support of, er, well, anyway - Jade Goody
Jade Goody – A Biography!
1. She faced court action over thousands of pounds of unpaid rent.
2. Just hours after arriving (on Big Brother), she had flashed one of her boobs and left viewers stunned with a torrent of foul language.
3. Jade was a figure of ridicule. She was branded a “pig”, two-faced and ignorant. Rival contestants labelled her “thick” and “ugly”.
4. Viewers switched on to watch tipsy Jade strip off during a drinking game to flash her “kebab”.
5. She thought East Anglia was called East Angular, and that it was somewhere near Tunisia. And she reckoned Rio de Janeiro was a person.
6. Jade kept trotting out the clangers . . . Mona Lisa was painted by “Pistachio”, Mother Teresa was from Germany, Portugal was “in Spain” and “Saddam Hussein was a boxer”.
7. Jade put it best herself when she confessed: “I may not be the sharpest tool in the sandwich box.”
8. “If I hadn’t made it on Big Brother I would probably have been living in a council flat with my mum.”
9. Lapping up the publicity, she once told a reporter she planned to dedicate a room in her house to all her front-page covers.
10. She started dating Jack Tweed. Jade had spotted him in a nightclub before, but had no idea he was six years her junior. She was smitten from the start, and the couple had sex on their first date at London’s Sanderson Hotel.
11. Their romance was to be played out in the full glare of the public when they both went into the Celebrity Big Brother house in 2007—joined by Jade’s mum Jackiey. But the programme that made Jade almost broke her this time as she became embroiled in a race row with Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty. She ranted at the actress: “You’re not some princess in f*****g Neverland. I don’t give a s**t. You’re a normal housemate like everybody else. You need to come to terms with that.” She added: “Go back to the slums and find out what real life is about lady.”
12. Later Jade confessed she wanted to headbutt the Indian actress and branded her “Shilpa Poppadom”.
13. Jade’s popularity nosedived overnight and Ofcom received a staggering 45,000 complaints. Her perfume was removed from the shelves and her autobiography dropped by publishers.
14. She then contracted cancer and turned out to be a saint.
"She was a courageous woman both in life and death and the whole country has admired her determination to provide a bright future for her children", said Gordon, speaking on my, and the other 45,000 complainants of this racist non-contributor, behalf TVM.
The end - who said over-empathy was dead?
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Edited - even the Telegraph weren't kind
Jade Goody - Telegraph
(Apologies if slightly insensitive. But then when a government awards a bin man the same compensation for hurting his knee as a soldier that loses a foot....)
1. She faced court action over thousands of pounds of unpaid rent.
2. Just hours after arriving (on Big Brother), she had flashed one of her boobs and left viewers stunned with a torrent of foul language.
3. Jade was a figure of ridicule. She was branded a “pig”, two-faced and ignorant. Rival contestants labelled her “thick” and “ugly”.
4. Viewers switched on to watch tipsy Jade strip off during a drinking game to flash her “kebab”.
5. She thought East Anglia was called East Angular, and that it was somewhere near Tunisia. And she reckoned Rio de Janeiro was a person.
6. Jade kept trotting out the clangers . . . Mona Lisa was painted by “Pistachio”, Mother Teresa was from Germany, Portugal was “in Spain” and “Saddam Hussein was a boxer”.
7. Jade put it best herself when she confessed: “I may not be the sharpest tool in the sandwich box.”
8. “If I hadn’t made it on Big Brother I would probably have been living in a council flat with my mum.”
9. Lapping up the publicity, she once told a reporter she planned to dedicate a room in her house to all her front-page covers.
10. She started dating Jack Tweed. Jade had spotted him in a nightclub before, but had no idea he was six years her junior. She was smitten from the start, and the couple had sex on their first date at London’s Sanderson Hotel.
11. Their romance was to be played out in the full glare of the public when they both went into the Celebrity Big Brother house in 2007—joined by Jade’s mum Jackiey. But the programme that made Jade almost broke her this time as she became embroiled in a race row with Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty. She ranted at the actress: “You’re not some princess in f*****g Neverland. I don’t give a s**t. You’re a normal housemate like everybody else. You need to come to terms with that.” She added: “Go back to the slums and find out what real life is about lady.”
12. Later Jade confessed she wanted to headbutt the Indian actress and branded her “Shilpa Poppadom”.
13. Jade’s popularity nosedived overnight and Ofcom received a staggering 45,000 complaints. Her perfume was removed from the shelves and her autobiography dropped by publishers.
14. She then contracted cancer and turned out to be a saint.
"She was a courageous woman both in life and death and the whole country has admired her determination to provide a bright future for her children", said Gordon, speaking on my, and the other 45,000 complainants of this racist non-contributor, behalf TVM.
The end - who said over-empathy was dead?
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Edited - even the Telegraph weren't kind
Jade Goody - Telegraph
(Apologies if slightly insensitive. But then when a government awards a bin man the same compensation for hurting his knee as a soldier that loses a foot....)
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I have to agree with the comments about "public grieving"....its almost grieving by proxy now. Whilst I have every sympathy and I certainly grasp the tragedy of any event that results in a fatality, I am never drawn to post something along the lines of "thoughts with the family" etc.
Whilst I think this is acceptable of individuals who actually know these people I tend to feel with others (i.e. strangers) it is merely a throwaway line, that they think should be said at the time.............which leads into this area:
From RETDPI:
I think it was the disgustingly poorly scripted and patently insincere "People's Princess" monologue from "Call me Tony" that perhaps got many of us seriously thinking about the dilution of "British" values.
Words and phrases such as " Spin" , "Celebrity", "Dumbing Down", "Political Correctness", "Street Wise", "Human Resources ", "Minority rights", "Equal Opportunities" , "ASBO", "Cultural identity" , "Political Refugee", "Economic Migrant" and "Bonus Payment" amongst many others have all crept increasingly into our vocabularies over recent years.
I believe they are linked!
Thank you Mr Bliar...............
Whilst I think this is acceptable of individuals who actually know these people I tend to feel with others (i.e. strangers) it is merely a throwaway line, that they think should be said at the time.............which leads into this area:
From RETDPI:
I think it was the disgustingly poorly scripted and patently insincere "People's Princess" monologue from "Call me Tony" that perhaps got many of us seriously thinking about the dilution of "British" values.
Words and phrases such as " Spin" , "Celebrity", "Dumbing Down", "Political Correctness", "Street Wise", "Human Resources ", "Minority rights", "Equal Opportunities" , "ASBO", "Cultural identity" , "Political Refugee", "Economic Migrant" and "Bonus Payment" amongst many others have all crept increasingly into our vocabularies over recent years.
I believe they are linked!
Thank you Mr Bliar...............
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I am still not sure whether you are in the Jade fan club or not, maybe you need to be more open and stop beating around the bush
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What does annoy me though, is the fact that most of us (maybe even Beags) know who she was, and many of her life's details. BUT how many of us can name more than a handful of our fallen servicemen/women in recent years?
To me this is a sad reflection on how the media try to feed us with 'heroes' to worship. Well, if Jade was a saint, then the fallen, or the chaps in the wounded TV programme are mighty emperors.
Sorry if that was a ramble, but I am sure that many of us (being military, or ex) don't go along with the idea of instant fame, or wanting to work our way to the top with no effort involved.
.What does annoy me though, is the fact that most of us (maybe even Beags) know who she was, and many of her life's details. BUT how many of us can name more than a handful of our fallen servicemen/women in recent years?
To me this is a sad reflection on how the media try to feed us with 'heroes' to worship. Well, if Jade was a saint, then the fallen, or the chaps in the wounded TV programme are mighty emperors.
Sorry if that was a ramble, but I am sure that many of us (being military, or ex) don't go along with the idea of instant fame, or wanting to work our way to the top with no effort involved.
