Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Swooping RAF Pilot Fined

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Swooping RAF Pilot Fined

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Apr 2008, 22:36
  #1 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
PPRuNe Radar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Swooping RAF Pilot Fined

RAF pilot fined over Open swoop

Seems it's not just civvy pilots who get fined for indiscretions !!
PPRuNe Radar is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2008, 22:56
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 785
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If youre going to bust your minimas, why not do it in style, live on telly whilst an international event is taking place.
wg13_dummy is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 02:40
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: England
Posts: 964
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts


Good drills, do it in style. I can only imagine what was going through his mind as he realised what he had done. Does anybody know what height he ent down to?? Incidentally if you are fined (in this case £1500) where does the money go??
Tigs2 is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 05:45
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GAFA - East
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool

Would anyone have noticed if he had done it at Vbg?
BentStick is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:07
  #5 (permalink)  
Rigger1
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
How high do pro golfers hit their balls?
 
Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:15
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: hull
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

The money should go behind the squadron bar
scottc is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:54
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: R4808E
Posts: 422
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I doubt if he got a cup of tea at Colchester, never mind a Chocolate Digestive.
I hope he's not flying a desk for too long.
Navy_Adversary is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:54
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Undecided!
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Danger Alarming Situation!

The most alarming thing to come out of this for his oppo's is the mention that they used the GPS trace to try and hang him out to dry (according to the reporter present!!!!)!

Now, correct me if I am wrong, I am sure there are more qualified people out there on this than me, but the GPS on a Tutor in DGPS mode is not always THAT accurate in height mode!

His counterparts regularly teach/instruct LOW FLYING to students based on a VISUALLY judged 500' MSD. If everyone is now subject to action based on the GPS readout my concern is that people will now switch the damn thing off!!

Please tell me I am not being mad when I say how can you prosectue someone with evidence based on an aid that cannot even be used for approaches due to the technical limitations inherent with the software and accuracy!? (The GPS is not certified!)

By the way I have imposed a no fly zone round my house, but I haven't told anybody because ignorance is no excuse! You should all know! Naturally!!!
Rotate is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:57
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The first town on the Thames
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 2 Posts
How high do pro golfers hit their balls?

About 2ft 10ins, same as the rest of us
Tigger_Too is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 08:43
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: at the end of the bar
Posts: 484
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rotate
The most alarming thing to come out of this for his oppo's is the mention that they used the GPS trace to try and hang him out to dry (according to the reporter present!!!!)!
Much worse than that:

A satellite was tracking and photographing Rodriguez's aircraft at the time and images of the incident were shown to the court.
Big Brother IS watching you...............

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-20384339/
XV277 is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 08:45
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
From The Scotsman:

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/RA...pen.3985042.jp

"The court martial heard Rodriguez had flown more than 1,600 hours in the aircraft, often on dangerous missions over Iraq."

Now that IS dangerous!!
goldcup is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:08
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
Posts: 908
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not an afterburning Grob GTI Mk69 from Miramar!!!!

eeeeooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ps being a golf tournament he should have done us a favour and flattened the place. Pringle everywhere.
tonker is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:09
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Dublin,Ireland
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Let me see if I can understand this. A guy is stupid enough to risk his job/self/aircraft/other persons (tick as appropriate) over a large public gathering, on an unauthorised "display" and the prevailing "wisdom" on this thread is that he should be allowed to get off with it??!! What rule did he not break? Is his position as an RAF pilot deemed enough not to have him prosecuted/charged for what Ppruners would eat him alive for if he was a civvie pilot....I served in the Military and what I remember from the pilots was their overriding self-belief that they were much, much better than civvie pilots and that the "normal" rules didn't apply to them.
Double standards, lads. Do better next time.
regards
TDD
TwoDeadDogs is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:09
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 72
Posts: 953
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
IIRC a Tremblers Jock was hauled over the coals back in the 80's for doing a low pass over Dundee / Broughty Ferry in his F4 so that the nav could get some pics of his house. The shots and lens info were sent to JARIC, who were able to calculate the height being flown.
sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:24
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cornwall
Age: 61
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rodders you are a very naughty boy. Next time use 5 iron. Remember runways not fairways
petoprobe is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:43
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Location: Location:
Age: 57
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's not all bad. At least he didn't shoot down a Jaguar.
Dan D'air is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 09:52
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 72
Posts: 953
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by petoprobe
Remember runways not fairways
I always thought that the Par 5, 16th Fairway on the Buddon course at Carnoustie would make an excellent forced landing strip. Maybe that was what was in his mind!
sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 10:12
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Rome
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TwoDeadDogs:

Let me see if I can understand this. A guy is stupid enough to risk his job/self/aircraft/other persons (tick as appropriate) over a large public gathering, on an unauthorised "display" and the prevailing "wisdom" on this thread is that he should be allowed to get off with it??!! What rule did he not break? Is his position as an RAF pilot deemed enough not to have him prosecuted/charged for what Ppruners would eat him alive for if he was a civvie pilot....I served in the Military and what I remember from the pilots was their overriding self-belief that they were much, much better than civvies pilots and that the "normal" rules didn't apply to them.
Double standards, lads. Do better next time.
regards
...what I remember from the pilots was their overriding self-belief that they were much, much better than civvies pilots and that the "normal" rules didn't apply to them.
Unfortunately this attitude is commonplace at one civilian establishment I can think of, 5 feet over the sea, etc.

Military pilots are 'selected' unlike most civilian pilots.

Anyway engineers have 'double standards', far worse than any a pilot has exhibited in my experience.

I doubt there was any real risk to job/self/aircraft/other persons.
stercus-accidit is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 10:42
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I thought NOTAMs were only advisory for aircrew?......No wait, that’s road signs.

Nice work Rodders!
Prop-Ed is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2008, 11:25
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: In the Ether
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good drills, do it in style
If only it was done in 'style' and not plain ignorance
Uncle Ginsters is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.