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Hindsight is the perfect tool, but I can't help wondering (though I know none of the circumstances) if the issues that contributed to this, and the behaviour that resulted, should not have been flagged and acted upon by his immediate colleagues and his superiors. It seems odd that he managed to leave the rails by quite a distance without warning signs being spotted.
We had a guy go to prison for 18 months, for GBH. He got 18 months. he couldn't re-join the regt of course, but he's totally one of us and has been very successful in his life since.
We had a guy go to prison for 18 months, for GBH. He got 18 months. he couldn't re-join the regt of course, but he's totally one of us and has been very successful in his life since.
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
I appreciate this person had falsified documents and claimed a lot of qualifications he never had but amongst my colleagues his biggest sin would have been to wear wings he never earned.
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Agreed. But I for one as someone who did earn wings, do not think he deserves jail for wearing them. The loss of his career, the shame he must bear with his soon to be wife (if it happens now!), whose father is a 1*, is a significant punishment. He was wrong to keep the ammo, and should have made a concerted effort to return it. There are lots of people out there who have kept rounds, just incase they loose some in the future. I cannot condone what he has done, I just disagree with the jail sentence. Discharge on its own would have been a severe enough punishment. I just hope he gets through civvie prison unscathed.
Agreed. But I for one as someone who did earn wings, do not think he deserves jail for wearing them. The loss of his career, the shame he must bear with his soon to be wife (if it happens now!), whose father is a 1*, is a significant punishment. He was wrong to keep the ammo, and should have made a concerted effort to return it. There are lots of people out there who have kept rounds, just incase they loose some in the future. I cannot condone what he has done, I just disagree with the jail sentence. Discharge on its own would have been a severe enough punishment. I just hope he gets through civvie prison unscathed.
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So did he make out that he had passed the All Arms Commando course and earnt a Green Lid?
If so then I think he's a bit of a Knob but that is hardly worthy of a jail term, contravening firearms regulations though is pretty naughty though, although I don't know many blokes that haven't found a couple of rounds or a box of 5.56 in their jacket and just stowed it in their cupboard.
Blimey during the 90's most PW's had more blank and live rounds, chinese firecrackers and thundies in their lofts or garage than the ammo store on camp. It was the only way to ensure that courses had enough ammunition or sims to make the final ex's seem realistic.
Shouting 'Bang' does take the effect away to a certain extent.
If so then I think he's a bit of a Knob but that is hardly worthy of a jail term, contravening firearms regulations though is pretty naughty though, although I don't know many blokes that haven't found a couple of rounds or a box of 5.56 in their jacket and just stowed it in their cupboard.
Blimey during the 90's most PW's had more blank and live rounds, chinese firecrackers and thundies in their lofts or garage than the ammo store on camp. It was the only way to ensure that courses had enough ammunition or sims to make the final ex's seem realistic.
Shouting 'Bang' does take the effect away to a certain extent.
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Whether he deserved it or not, the Firearms Act offence made it inevitable. The defence of "exceptional circumstances" is pretty hard to justify.
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I do not think he deserved a jail sentence
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GPMG, we found a number of 7.62 rounds in an ex-army vehicle. A local was found to have some belts of 7.62 in his house, got a tap on his wrist and not even a caution, more a hard stare.
Another local had his street cleared while EOD removed a number of live mortar rounds.
Another local had his street cleared while EOD removed a number of live mortar rounds.
What a kn*b
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An illiterate kn*b.
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An illiterate kn*b.
Such a shame that you continually make every effort to lose what you seem to find so difficult to gain then.
And I have to say I agree with Mr Burns. The fact this Walt may be a nice chap, with a wife does not excuse what he did. Those rushing to his defence because they know him are the very people who had a duty to bring him back to reality over the years. It would seem they had other things to do.
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"Your 58 and living in South Africa. I think I can make my own mind up about serving officers thank you. If I want a comment about Antelope, you will be my first port of call mon brave ."
Amusingly, you now combine further illiterate and irrelevant remarks with a demonstrable ignorance of Natural History.
There are ,of course, no "antelope" in South Africa.
Q.E.D. concerning my, and others, comments I think.
Amusingly, you now combine further illiterate and irrelevant remarks with a demonstrable ignorance of Natural History.
There are ,of course, no "antelope" in South Africa.
Q.E.D. concerning my, and others, comments I think.
Antelope pictures displayed here - including impala, kudu, waterbuck and steenbuck - were taken mainly in South Africa's Kruger National Park
Check out www.wildlife-pictures-online/antelopepictures2.html
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Ref. the above half-cock thread drift remarks about S.A. Buck and Gazelle- you will note that none have the common name here of "antelope" .
Which was why of course I put it in inverted commas in the first place.
Which was why of course I put it in inverted commas in the first place.
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As posted on the 'accommodation at the Deid' thread
It would seem that they have
I pondered how the bosses might manage the content of pprune by simply employing some dude to setup a dozen or so user accounts and ensuring every thread quickly degenerates into a slanging match, thus turning genuinely interested contributors away.
Anybody wonder if they have cottoned on to my idea?
Anybody wonder if they have cottoned on to my idea?
I'm confused. Are there Antelope in South Africa or not?
You've been pretty scathing about this bloke. As a matter of interest, do you known anybody like Sharpy? If you do, what have you done about it?