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Got the message, tvm.
Well, those of us who've allowed the rope to reach its current length should certainly consider how best to avoid anything like this happening again. If nothing else, it's a lesson in the value of being a good friend; whatever his faults, Sharpy is a good friend to people, and I think it only fair that we reward his loyalty by helping him through the tough days ahead. He stood by me during a very difficult time in my life, and I'd feel awful if I left him to it.
Got the message, tvm.
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I get the sneaking feeling that this is a case of 'given enough rope'....................................
Remember: A commission is an extremely difficult thing to gain
Respect. That is a difficult thing to gain.
And yes, if those who knew the bloke had taken him to one side and given a reality check, I'm sure he would be turning up for work tommorrow as normal.
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Mini
I am not sure a reality check would have worked. Not naming any names but we had a chap we called IBM... the Incredible Bul*******g Man. Despite being given many reality checks, nothing worked. A very nice guy but unable to stop telling the most ridiculous stories.
Antelope I think you are right, but although a harder environment, Colchester would be a much safer place any day of the week
I am not sure a reality check would have worked. Not naming any names but we had a chap we called IBM... the Incredible Bul*******g Man. Despite being given many reality checks, nothing worked. A very nice guy but unable to stop telling the most ridiculous stories.
Antelope I think you are right, but although a harder environment, Colchester would be a much safer place any day of the week
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I am not sure a reality check would have worked
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Was that that the same guy who kept his 1250 after he'd left the service and blagged his way into Officers Messes around the country getting cheap accommodation? Or was that a different guy altogether?
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I didn't think an officer could be sent to Colchester, isn't discharge the only option and then civilian imprisonment (Which is what I presume happened in this case)?
Or should I say ex-officers .... an ancient perk (IIRC) of the Queen's Commission (trusty and well beloved etc etc) is that holders cannot go to jail ..... not the easy get out tho' ... you lose the commission just before the door slams.....!!!
.... comparable in a way to the Roman tradition that virgins could not be executed ............
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Plastic 
How funny was that
St John
I don't think so. I am not sure how long he has been out, but I know many many people that seem to 'lose'
their 1250 prior to departure. Why anyone would want to stay in the mess is beyond me, when ion your room you are still not afforded the basics of a travel lodge.
How funny was thatSt John
I don't think so. I am not sure how long he has been out, but I know many many people that seem to 'lose'
their 1250 prior to departure. Why anyone would want to stay in the mess is beyond me, when ion your room you are still not afforded the basics of a travel lodge.
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I kept my 1250 for some reason, that was nearly 3 years ago, not used it since but if petrol blockades happened again it would be useful as the military were classed as essential users last time out!
As for the subject matter of this thread, got to feel for the guys wife to be, but suppose with good behaviour hell be out in 6 weeks!
As for the subject matter of this thread, got to feel for the guys wife to be, but suppose with good behaviour hell be out in 6 weeks!
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We should all hope that Sharpy recovers from this. It is a terrible thing to lose one's career, particularly when so much is invested in it. Also, the hardest expectations to live up to are the ones we set ourselves, particularly in the military environment. These are not excuses, but perhaps a little understanding and support may be more appropriate now that judgement has been passed. When you hit rock bottom the only way is back up....easier said than done.
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To the friends of Dave.
I'm heavily involved in the global PSC (private security company) scene, and might be able to offer a little help and guidance for Dave after he does his time.
Its unlikely that a big player could take him on, but there are lots of smaller players who might be able to offer an opportunity that will give him a chance to re-build at management level in an interesting environment. He will probably have to go to exile though initially and take projects in far flung miserable places. But with willingness and drive, he might create a new career out of it.
So if you think it might help, PM me.
rmac
I'm heavily involved in the global PSC (private security company) scene, and might be able to offer a little help and guidance for Dave after he does his time.
Its unlikely that a big player could take him on, but there are lots of smaller players who might be able to offer an opportunity that will give him a chance to re-build at management level in an interesting environment. He will probably have to go to exile though initially and take projects in far flung miserable places. But with willingness and drive, he might create a new career out of it.
So if you think it might help, PM me.
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It's a nice gesture, but I think it might not be the best environment for him - probably better to make a clean break and get away from the military scene altogether. This stigma will always hover over him if he comes into contact with UK (or Coalition) forces in a professional capacity again. He has broken the bond of trust and that is very very difficult to rebuild. Regardless of the rehabilitation of offenders act, mud sticks.
Whatever he does he needs to sort out his ability to see fact from self-deluding fiction, and doesn't need to be in a place that might tempt him to try to profess to be something he isn't again.
It's a nice gesture, but I think it might not be the best environment for him - probably better to make a clean break and get away from the military scene altogether. This stigma will always hover over him if he comes into contact with UK (or Coalition) forces in a professional capacity again. He has broken the bond of trust and that is very very difficult to rebuild. Regardless of the rehabilitation of offenders act, mud sticks.
Whatever he does he needs to sort out his ability to see fact from self-deluding fiction, and doesn't need to be in a place that might tempt him to try to profess to be something he isn't again.
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Tragic
One very sad story.
Was Sharpy given any form of psychiatric examination prior to sentencing?
In which branch of the service did he serve?
Given the appallingly light sentences currently awarded to real crims with 'previous,' I think that gaol was simply OTT, but can a Court Martial award a suspended sentence?
Neppie
Was Sharpy given any form of psychiatric examination prior to sentencing?
In which branch of the service did he serve?
Given the appallingly light sentences currently awarded to real crims with 'previous,' I think that gaol was simply OTT, but can a Court Martial award a suspended sentence?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
I'm sure I could have lowered my standards far enough for a ground branch comission.
What a kn*b
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An illiterate kn*b.
Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
I'm sure I could have lowered my standards far enough for a ground branch comission.
What a kn*b
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An illiterate kn*b.
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I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure I could have lowered my standards far enough for a ground branch comission.
Respect. That is a difficult thing to gain.
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Mr-Burns
Do you know Sharpy?? Your words are pretty harsh. Like Neptunus Rex, I do not think he deserved a jail sentence. if the guy was a 'bad un' nobody on this forum would be offering help of any sort. Clearly he is not, and many people like him. We all have issues that creep into our lives, it's just for him they have had tragic consequences.
Lets stop the sypathetic bo**ocks and say it as it is.
This is a sad loser who deserves eveything he gets.
This is a sad loser who deserves eveything he gets.
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I do know sharpy and he's alwys been a kn*b. There are many people out there that have really been there, seen it, done it and understandably have been effected by it - this tw*t isnt one of them.
He was so far from the front lines he had to send his washing forward !!!
He was so far from the front lines he had to send his washing forward !!!