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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 17:04
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What price TRIGRAM Passes

I received the Spanish Inquisition today from some ****e for brains MGS type because, on entry to HMNB Portsmouth, my perfectly acceptable pass didn't have the "BBB" trigram. I thought the point of standardising was to stop all this security Nazism.

Rant over - completely agree about lanyards, haven't yet worked for an organisation issuing them within MOD that I would want to provide with free advertising!!


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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 17:09
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The point I was trying to make is that there is nothing wrong with ID Cards etc, but that these cord things are driven by some perverse misguided fashion rather than actual necessity.
Ah but I was informed that you cannot easily check whether someone has a right to be in the building if you cannot easily see their ID card. Therefore we must all wear them on a bit of string round our neck. Only when I worked in the Ivory Tours I never wore the bit of string, my ID card lived in my wallet, apart from when I needed it to get through the "tubes", and no-one ever challenged me!!

And whilst we are on it "Why, oh why, oh why do we need a separate Main Building ID card when we all have an ID card already that can be programmed to get you in?" Wouldn't have anything to do with reminding the CS that there are military personnel working in the buiding - would it?

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Old 24th Oct 2007, 10:42
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Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew
And whilst we are on it "Why, oh why, oh why do we need a separate Main Building ID card when we all have an ID card already that can be programmed to get you in?" Wouldn't have anything to do with reminding the CS that there are military personnel working in the building - would it?
At least the necklace shows who is CS and who is Mil.

But on your point, I thought the vehicle access cards, mine has VAC , were supposed to be useable on any station as once registered on one station then the system should, via the network, allow you in any. But of course the H&S Politze insist on an H&S Brief with your temporary car pass. Ever read it?

An ID Card, be it mil or CS allows direct access on foot. Why should it be different in a car?

As for the MOD access, there are special access cards at other units too. Why not have your ID card programmed when you arrive instead? Fact, logic and reason?
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 10:49
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Slight tangent (for which I apologise profusely), but it would help if the ID cards were not so poor quality. Have been through 3 in a year and not treated them harshly, they are just brittle and crap. Seem to remember my first (blue) F1250 lasted me bloody years.
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 13:01
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Easy Entry

Seem to remember the winner of a living in O's competition to get through to the DERA site from the RAF site at a certain Wilts base, winning by threading a ID sized piece of toast sporting butter, Marmite and jam photo onto his ball bearing chain and waving it across the road as he cycled in.
Actually it seemed that all you needed was to be in a growbag with a chain around your neck and you were in. Does it work with the new lanyards.
Perhaps there shoud be a competition here to see who can get in with the most useless piece of ID, library/nectar/Tesco Club card etc.
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 13:16
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Uniform in MB sounds good to me - I look forward to a procession of increasingly irate senior officers being stopped on their way to the tube station to be asked what time the next number 73 is due

(Yes it has happened!)
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 13:29
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Originally Posted by bayete
Perhaps there shoud be a competition here to see who can get in with the most useless piece of ID, library/nectar/Tesco Club card etc.
I have used an OU Id card.

However one day I glanced at 'my' 1250. Almost had a heart attack. Black hair, horn rimmed glasses and a moustache. By kids!
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