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Morning all
I understand the Top Gear team is at Cby today to race a Bugatti against a Typhoon.
Other than thinking that this kind of exercise has been done to death I just wondered if anyone had any recollection of when this might have first been tried? Spitfire v Spitfire or something along those lines perhaps!
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Gareth
I understand the Top Gear team is at Cby today to race a Bugatti against a Typhoon.
Other than thinking that this kind of exercise has been done to death I just wondered if anyone had any recollection of when this might have first been tried? Spitfire v Spitfire or something along those lines perhaps!
Thanks
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Schumacher has raced against a Typhoon. He lost, even with a rolling start in an F1 car.
Youtube Footage
Youtube Footage
The Veyron might be a formidable opponent, since some (inc Mr Clarkson) reckon that its straight line acceleration is even more potent than Herr Schumi's Ferrari...
Anyway, so long as Clarkson isn't sick in the back of a two-seater, no harm done.
Anyway, so long as Clarkson isn't sick in the back of a two-seater, no harm done.
any recollection of when this might have first been tried? Spitfire v Spitfire or something along those lines
Over half the distance of the Waddington ORP, the humble squadron short wheelbase landrover outpaced an F104 from a standing start.....
...The rest of the ORP was spent praying the brakes would work, whilst watching the F104 disappear in a haze of black smoke.
But it was fun
...The rest of the ORP was spent praying the brakes would work, whilst watching the F104 disappear in a haze of black smoke.
But it was fun
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He lost, even with a rolling start in an F1 car.
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Archimedes,
If Jeremy does feel queezy in a 2 seater, he can always try this;
http://www.dimoramotorcar.com/index2.html
Dimora is building a $2million saloon going by the name of Natalia. It doesn't really sound as if its being pitched at Russian oil billionares at all, does it? Another gauche faux art deco 'interpretation', or a subliminal beauty? Either way, Clarksonesque hyperbole most surely beckons.. 'more torque than Continental Drift' etc.
If Jeremy does feel queezy in a 2 seater, he can always try this;
http://www.dimoramotorcar.com/index2.html
Dimora is building a $2million saloon going by the name of Natalia. It doesn't really sound as if its being pitched at Russian oil billionares at all, does it? Another gauche faux art deco 'interpretation', or a subliminal beauty? Either way, Clarksonesque hyperbole most surely beckons.. 'more torque than Continental Drift' etc.
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It all depends on how technical they get with acceleration graphs to determine at what distance the race is over.....
Car and a/c are going to have two different shape acceleration graphs and at some point when placed over each other the lines will cross, and would give the optimim distance over which to race and thereby putting the most emphasis on driver/pilot....any distance before or after will hand an advantage to either car or a/c.
Car and a/c are going to have two different shape acceleration graphs and at some point when placed over each other the lines will cross, and would give the optimim distance over which to race and thereby putting the most emphasis on driver/pilot....any distance before or after will hand an advantage to either car or a/c.
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I'm sure that Jaguar vs Jaguar was done at Coltishall some time back.
There was certainly a Harrier vs Lotus turbo F1 contest - I think the F1 was quicker to 100mph but from that point on the GR3 had him!
There was certainly a Harrier vs Lotus turbo F1 contest - I think the F1 was quicker to 100mph but from that point on the GR3 had him!
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The Veyron is quicker, more powerful and faster top end than any F1 car. 252mph top end as shown on Top Gear by Captain slow James May but then it's not top end we are after here.
I say it will give the Typhoon a good run anyway, better than the F1...
I say it will give the Typhoon a good run anyway, better than the F1...
I'd love to see the application form to the insurance company...
"I'm going to race this £50,000 car in close proximity to a Typhoon jet."
Or would the bill be even more if it were worded...
"I'm going to race the £50 million Typhoon jet next to a Bugatti"
Either way, the excess has gotta hurt
"I'm going to race this £50,000 car in close proximity to a Typhoon jet."
Or would the bill be even more if it were worded...
"I'm going to race the £50 million Typhoon jet next to a Bugatti"
Either way, the excess has gotta hurt
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"I'm going to race this £50,000 car in close proximity to a Typhoon jet."
Runaway Gun,
If you know where to pick up a Bugatti Veyron for £50,000 then please let me know!
I'm no petrol-head but I seem to (dimly) recall that they cost about 900k to buy and that Bugatti were losing a couple of million on each car. They were nothing more than a technology flagship vehicle to help relaunch the brand.
I'm sure the petrol heads will put me right if my figures are off target.
Runaway Gun,
If you know where to pick up a Bugatti Veyron for £50,000 then please let me know!
I'm no petrol-head but I seem to (dimly) recall that they cost about 900k to buy and that Bugatti were losing a couple of million on each car. They were nothing more than a technology flagship vehicle to help relaunch the brand.
I'm sure the petrol heads will put me right if my figures are off target.
The Veyron is quicker, more powerful and faster top end than any F1 car.
Quicker...........hah........no chance.
A 500kg 750hp F1 car can do the 0-300km/h sprint in about 8.5secs, that's nearly half of a Veyron's time of about 17 secs.
So if Schumacher couldn't beat the Typhoon (alright it was wet) then a Veyron will have no chance.......unless the race distance is a lot shorter to favour the car.
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Interestingly, the Veyron only has half the power to weight ratio of the Mclaren F1 despite being developed 11 years later. Bugatti boots come in at just under 5k a pop each, I wonder how that compares to say, Typhoon?
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As far as I could find in google Schumacher won. Was there a different race in the youtube footage? (Firewall at work stops me viewing youtube, but I found the clip on a french website)
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From a standing start (for both) Hamster's Veyron had to go a mile down the runway, turn around and get back across the start/finish line. The Typhoon had to take off, climb a mile straight up, come back down, and cross the start/finish line (still in the air obviously - would be a bit of a tall order to get it to stop as well!).
First one back was the winner!
First one back was the winner!
It was rather good to watch. The Spitfire display was nice too. Couldn't tell if it was going a mile up or not due to the cloud - I just assumed he was trying to turn round in the shortest possible distance without leaving the runway line.
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The Veyron being the most expensive, fastest, quickest and powerful production ever built it has 12 radiators to keep the engine cool.
It was costing god knows how many millions to make and they got it down to £1m to buy, then more people expressed interest and ordered them and the price tag is now around £800,000 per car with extras costing more.
This thing out accelerates motorbikes such as the R1 and Fireblade and others. It knocks socks off the Ferraris, Lambos, Jaguar XJ220 and everything else so far that has come up against it.
Take a look at some of the Youtube videos.....
I Noticed while looking an FA-18 losing to a F1 car by quite a margin.
It was costing god knows how many millions to make and they got it down to £1m to buy, then more people expressed interest and ordered them and the price tag is now around £800,000 per car with extras costing more.
This thing out accelerates motorbikes such as the R1 and Fireblade and others. It knocks socks off the Ferraris, Lambos, Jaguar XJ220 and everything else so far that has come up against it.
Take a look at some of the Youtube videos.....
I Noticed while looking an FA-18 losing to a F1 car by quite a margin.