Why Are The Tucanos Knackered?
IIRC, flight test on a Kenyan aircraft, a drop tank was released, it hit the tailplane which came off. Successful ejection, but pilot couldn't get into dingy and died of hypothermia. It was winter and he wasn't wearing an immersion suit.
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I was led to believe the testing team were investigating flutter on the control surfaces when it got all out of hand and the a/c broke up.
Also I believe the TP forgot to fasten the PSP connector which ultimately led to his sad downfall.
Also I believe the TP forgot to fasten the PSP connector which ultimately led to his sad downfall.
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Misinformation
The thread seems to have drifted a bit from Tucanos to Hawks and PC9s.
Just to put the record straight with facts, Mr Prescott was never the MP for Brough, his constituency is East Hull.
Saudi PC9s don't have a glass cockpits
And if you pilot people wanted to fly stick and rudder machines then you should perhaps train on them. As far as I can see the Typhoon stick and rudder is connected to a computer and when that fails your stick and rudder skills count for nowt.
Perhaps the Tucano should have been a PC9! But that is just my opinion.
Just to put the record straight with facts, Mr Prescott was never the MP for Brough, his constituency is East Hull.
Saudi PC9s don't have a glass cockpits
And if you pilot people wanted to fly stick and rudder machines then you should perhaps train on them. As far as I can see the Typhoon stick and rudder is connected to a computer and when that fails your stick and rudder skills count for nowt.
Perhaps the Tucano should have been a PC9! But that is just my opinion.
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And if you pilot people wanted to fly stick and rudder machines then you should perhaps train on them. As far as I can see the Typhoon stick and rudder is connected to a computer and when that fails your stick and rudder skills count for nowt.
Insightful, thanks.
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x10ge, thanks for the education, but Brough/East Hull doesnt really matter but it was the same fat man that lobbied parliament and hey presto, Hawk 128 forced on unsuspecting RAF.
Thread has gone from Tucano, Hawk and PC 9 because the 1st 2 aircraft happen to be in the RAF fast jet training system and the PC 9 could have been.
As for stick and rudder, Pilots are still learning stick and rudder techniques because every fast jet in the RAF has a stick and rudder of some sort regardless of how many computers are between pilot input and control surface output. RAF pilots are taught to fly each aircraft to it's performance limit whether those limits are imposed by computers or FRCs. The PC9 the RAF might have bought would have faced the same problem that the Tincan faces now, which is why so many airforces who have older PC9s are looking for an upgrade/replacement.
Thread has gone from Tucano, Hawk and PC 9 because the 1st 2 aircraft happen to be in the RAF fast jet training system and the PC 9 could have been.
As for stick and rudder, Pilots are still learning stick and rudder techniques because every fast jet in the RAF has a stick and rudder of some sort regardless of how many computers are between pilot input and control surface output. RAF pilots are taught to fly each aircraft to it's performance limit whether those limits are imposed by computers or FRCs. The PC9 the RAF might have bought would have faced the same problem that the Tincan faces now, which is why so many airforces who have older PC9s are looking for an upgrade/replacement.
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Sorry, but the *build* of the Tucano is utter Sh1t3. If you look at the underside there's about a million vents, seams and fasteners all over the shop. Kinda like the way I wrap Xmas prezzies - nice and tidy on the top but a dogs dinner underneath. If Shorts had built a PC9 under license I'm sure it'd be in the same boat...
Tucano replacement will be the new Hawk2020 - Turboprop Hawk derivative with low carbon engine. High efficiency photo voltaic cells embedded in the upper wing panels will power the cockpit electrics.
Word is that the initial build wont be cleared for inverted flight.;-)
Word is that the initial build wont be cleared for inverted flight.;-)
lgw
Don't expect anything much before 2014. And that assumes that PR08 doesn't hit with more "savings" measures!! 
With MFTS does anyone know what the end date for the Tucano?
