Flight Engineers in short supply
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I had a severe finger poking sesion with a certain AVM at a BZN dinning in night.
He had no idea as to the effect that the "wither on the vine and die" coment had on serving air engineers.
He appeared genuinly surprised that his words had created so much bad feeling and, after much alcohol induced beratement, appologised for his comments.
I think the vine is still very much alive.
He had no idea as to the effect that the "wither on the vine and die" coment had on serving air engineers.
He appeared genuinly surprised that his words had created so much bad feeling and, after much alcohol induced beratement, appologised for his comments.
I think the vine is still very much alive.
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I have heard that when the youngest Air Eng retires the RAF AWACS will still be in service.
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Plan A
I reckon that before I retire.. May next year.. We should all meet up and have an almight P1$$ up and toast the Air Eng trade.. Somewhere central in the country would be good.. in the Bredbury area of Stockport perhaps 
Just a thought 
Just a thought
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I left 216 as an FE in 2005 after 22 and went into the FlightTraining world. I have to say that after seeing the way the branch was treated over the years and the deteriorating quality of life I have no regrets about leaving. In my new line of work ex RAF Flight Engineers are highly regarded and sort after, very different to how I felt in the Air Force. Anyone leaving with instructional experience needing a job there's plenty available.
Any ex FEs with instructional experience who fancy working for the 3rd largest manufacturer with a base in the Lion City should pm me pronto. We are also looking for someone based in Zürich.
After 11 in the mob and 5 flying civvy my career really started when I stopped flying 4 years ago.
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'.....He appeared genuinly surprised that his words had created so much bad feeling and, after much alcohol induced beratement, appologised for his comments......'
Well no doubt the AVM in question (presumably promoted since then) now feels his conscience is clear - but a drunken apology to one guy at a dining in night does not undo the damage his earliers remarks had made!
It also speaks volumes that none of his flunkies around him had told him of the impact his remarks had had!!
By the way TP, I'm not having a go at you - full marks for taking him to task!!
'.....He appeared genuinly surprised that his words had created so much bad feeling and, after much alcohol induced beratement, appologised for his comments......'
Well no doubt the AVM in question (presumably promoted since then) now feels his conscience is clear - but a drunken apology to one guy at a dining in night does not undo the damage his earliers remarks had made!
It also speaks volumes that none of his flunkies around him had told him of the impact his remarks had had!!
By the way TP, I'm not having a go at you - full marks for taking him to task!!
