Royal Navy jobs offered to civvy qualified pilots
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Hey guys,
Wonder if you can help me. I have just completed my CPL IR/ Frozen ATPL course at a well known UKFTO. My course and I have all recieved a letter from the Royal Navy that states they are well under manned in their pilot numbers at the moment and they have offered us an opportunity to apply. They say that if we pass some computer tests with the RAF and if our medical standards are acceptable we will pass to basic training at a place called Linton-on-Rouse. They say we will avoid the first stage of training due to our previous qualifications. My first question is, why is it called Basic Training if we are being invited to go on to something called a Tuncaner at Linton on Rouse and not the Bulldogs which I know the military learn to fly on. Secondly, they say we will be paid on the Major equivalent scale to allow us to repay our previous training debts. This will last for five years. How much will this salary be?
Many thanks,
Hope you can help.
GE
Wonder if you can help me. I have just completed my CPL IR/ Frozen ATPL course at a well known UKFTO. My course and I have all recieved a letter from the Royal Navy that states they are well under manned in their pilot numbers at the moment and they have offered us an opportunity to apply. They say that if we pass some computer tests with the RAF and if our medical standards are acceptable we will pass to basic training at a place called Linton-on-Rouse. They say we will avoid the first stage of training due to our previous qualifications. My first question is, why is it called Basic Training if we are being invited to go on to something called a Tuncaner at Linton on Rouse and not the Bulldogs which I know the military learn to fly on. Secondly, they say we will be paid on the Major equivalent scale to allow us to repay our previous training debts. This will last for five years. How much will this salary be?
Many thanks,
Hope you can help.
GE
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Hey guys,
Wonder if you can help me. I have just completed my CPL IR/ Frozen ATPL course at a well known UKFTO. My course and I have all recieved a letter from the Royal Navy that states they are well under manned in their pilot numbers at the moment and they have offered us an opportunity to apply. They say that if we pass some computer tests with the RAF and if our medical standards are acceptable we will pass to basic training at a place called Linton-on-Rouse. They say we will avoid the first stage of training due to our previous qualifications. My first question is, why is it called Basic Training if we are being invited to go on to something called a Tuncaner at Linton on Rouse and not the Bulldogs which I know the military learn to fly on. Secondly, they say we will be paid on the Major equivalent scale to allow us to repay our previous training debts. This will last for five years. How much will this salary be?
Many thanks,
Hope you can help.
GE
Wonder if you can help me. I have just completed my CPL IR/ Frozen ATPL course at a well known UKFTO. My course and I have all recieved a letter from the Royal Navy that states they are well under manned in their pilot numbers at the moment and they have offered us an opportunity to apply. They say that if we pass some computer tests with the RAF and if our medical standards are acceptable we will pass to basic training at a place called Linton-on-Rouse. They say we will avoid the first stage of training due to our previous qualifications. My first question is, why is it called Basic Training if we are being invited to go on to something called a Tuncaner at Linton on Rouse and not the Bulldogs which I know the military learn to fly on. Secondly, they say we will be paid on the Major equivalent scale to allow us to repay our previous training debts. This will last for five years. How much will this salary be?
Many thanks,
Hope you can help.
GE
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From a conversation I had with the man in the know in the Dark Blue College of Knowledge, part of our man's wind up is true - the RN is having problems recruiting potential pilots, so much so that the holds between courses have almost entirely gone, due to the lower throughput.
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Surely everyone knows that pilots are the guys that bring ships into harbour? The RN teaches them to fly just in case they might need to, if the RAF can't turn up, for example.
With his standard of spelling/knowledge, he obviously won't pass the "RAF" tests.
On the subject of what to fly, the RN is short of Harrier Pilots...sorry to break it to you all but the J in JFH means JOINT and 800 and 801 sqns are to be predominantly dark blue. Unfortunately, despite the offer of a life in Lincolnshire and very generous FRIs, most of the Sea Harrier fraternity have done a bunk!
Interesting that they are offering 2 and 1/2 pay, even the doctors and dentists and the Bishes, don't get that straight away!
On the subject of what to fly, the RN is short of Harrier Pilots...sorry to break it to you all but the J in JFH means JOINT and 800 and 801 sqns are to be predominantly dark blue. Unfortunately, despite the offer of a life in Lincolnshire and very generous FRIs, most of the Sea Harrier fraternity have done a bunk!
Interesting that they are offering 2 and 1/2 pay, even the doctors and dentists and the Bishes, don't get that straight away!
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What would a Lt(RN), seasoned and fully-trained [Dartmouth, et al] have to say if a wet-nose pitched up on the Sqn getting Lt Cdr pay?
I don't think so.
I find it difficult to buy that this individual [with CPL/frozen ATPL] is unaware that the Bulldog has been out of service for some years now, or that it's Linton-on-Ouse, or that it's a Tucano.
And straight to Basic without doing Dartmouth?
A poor attempt at a wind-up, I fear.
I don't think so.
I find it difficult to buy that this individual [with CPL/frozen ATPL] is unaware that the Bulldog has been out of service for some years now, or that it's Linton-on-Ouse, or that it's a Tucano.
And straight to Basic without doing Dartmouth?
A poor attempt at a wind-up, I fear.
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Hey Easty
If this is the same deal that was discussed shortly before I too recently graduated from a UK FTO (the premier one, might I add) then the Ground Instructor who discussed it with you may be a little peeved to know that the discretion that he asked you to show in considering it, involved you going straight on to an internet forum to discuss it with the whole world!
To clarify the offer that was discussed with us.. This is only an invite to apply.. not a guaranteed place!
If successful at the usual boarding process, your reports from the FTO will be considered and may allow you to bypass Elementary Training Only (That's the single engine GH phase of your FTO course) in the military training system which would see you go on to Basic training. We were told our flying records would have to be at least the standard that would see you put forward to BA because the RN is looking from this scheme for FJ pilots.
The deal with a higher than normal starting pay is for a limited period (No set number of years was discussed with us but when I looked into it about five years would be correct!!) which was justified by the reduction in training costs expended upon you. The additional pay was intended to help you pay off your self funded training costs and bridge the gap between an FO's starting salary with the civil carriers and the starting salary in the military.
The deal with the reference to a Major's rank was only so that you could look up and compare pay scales. The pay is the same as an Army major would receive and will increase in line with an Army major's pay scale increases year by year. It does not involve you getting the same rank as an Army Major!
Before everybody shoots me down and criticiszes(sic) my spelling, I didn't invent this scheme and unfortunately could not take part in it as I was on a part sponsored scheme with my now employer (although I would have liked to, I think the Navy do a fantastic job and get some awesome flying!!!) only aiming to answer his questions and clarify some of his inaccuracies.
If this is the same deal that was discussed shortly before I too recently graduated from a UK FTO (the premier one, might I add) then the Ground Instructor who discussed it with you may be a little peeved to know that the discretion that he asked you to show in considering it, involved you going straight on to an internet forum to discuss it with the whole world!
To clarify the offer that was discussed with us.. This is only an invite to apply.. not a guaranteed place!
If successful at the usual boarding process, your reports from the FTO will be considered and may allow you to bypass Elementary Training Only (That's the single engine GH phase of your FTO course) in the military training system which would see you go on to Basic training. We were told our flying records would have to be at least the standard that would see you put forward to BA because the RN is looking from this scheme for FJ pilots.
The deal with a higher than normal starting pay is for a limited period (No set number of years was discussed with us but when I looked into it about five years would be correct!!) which was justified by the reduction in training costs expended upon you. The additional pay was intended to help you pay off your self funded training costs and bridge the gap between an FO's starting salary with the civil carriers and the starting salary in the military.
The deal with the reference to a Major's rank was only so that you could look up and compare pay scales. The pay is the same as an Army major would receive and will increase in line with an Army major's pay scale increases year by year. It does not involve you getting the same rank as an Army Major!
Before everybody shoots me down and criticiszes(sic) my spelling, I didn't invent this scheme and unfortunately could not take part in it as I was on a part sponsored scheme with my now employer (although I would have liked to, I think the Navy do a fantastic job and get some awesome flying!!!) only aiming to answer his questions and clarify some of his inaccuracies.
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Hey guys,
can i appologise for my severe lack of knowledge regards the Navy thanks to all the replys to put me right.
GE
can i appologise for my severe lack of knowledge regards the Navy thanks to all the replys to put me right.
GE
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And straight to Basic without doing Dartmouth?
Whllst Im on the subject...has anyone heard a buzz that the RN are overborne with people and are going to stop promotions to SO1 and also stop transfers to the longer career commissions?