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Old 31st Mar 2006, 07:38
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Bombay,
I understand that if you have them they'll be arriving with some of our toys stripped out and that you'll be using them as a source of spares for your own (soon to be upgraded) FRS51s.

Sorry, you won't be getting AMRAAM so you'll have to make do with the Israeli Derby. However, if you loan us one of your AFs SU-37MKIs, maybe we can do a deal...
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 08:07
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I say again.........
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 08:08
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Wow, three in a row Repeat please.......
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 08:31
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Doh!...I thought I'd overcome my st...st...stammer!!!!
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Wink

Just a pity the toys being removed can't be added to the GR9 upgrade

Just a pity the toys being removed can't be added to the GR9 upgrade

Just a pity the toys being removed can't be added to the GR9 Upgrade


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Old 8th Apr 2006, 21:55
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Originally Posted by southside
why was it banned? why did the CDRE veto the bang and opt for the whimoer?
They had all thier fun the 2 days b4. CDRE said it was better of them to leave and not drag it out.

And yes I will be at his leaving party
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Old 10th Apr 2006, 04:40
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Originally Posted by Magic Mushroom
Bombay,
I understand that if you have them they'll be arriving with some of our toys stripped out and that you'll be using them as a source of spares for your own (soon to be upgraded) FRS51s.
Sorry, you won't be getting AMRAAM so you'll have to make do with the Israeli Derby. However, if you loan us one of your AFs SU-37MKIs, maybe we can do a deal...
Regards,
MM
Most likely you're right, it was wishful thinking on my part

But then again I don't know much about the Derby, I hope it is a half-decent missile...
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Old 10th Apr 2006, 14:11
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BombayDuck,

the Derby is derived from the Python 4 missile and is very capable, but not in the same league as the AMRAAM. Its biggest drawback is range, often quoted as about 20km. This puts it in the same class as ASRAAM, but with the advantage of an active seeker of course.

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Old 10th Apr 2006, 20:05
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Nurse,

I think you'll find that the GR9 will be a capable enough platform with it's hugely flexible payload (PGB, Maverick, CRV7, TIALD, JRP, etc) not to mention potential future upgrades, ASRAAM/JTIDS - the only question now is can the Navy man JFH, and can those pilots keep up with the pace on the Front-Line, as opposed to floating around the world on a cocktail ship
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Old 10th Apr 2006, 20:42
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For those interested ZA195 is now at Farnborough (FAST) Museum, turned up 4 weeks ago, hard to believe that 20 years ago I saw it being cut in half for the plug to be fitted and everyone getting excited around the Kingston site that the FA2 was take shape and then 4 weeks ago the aircraft is being offload from a lowloader and dumped on blocks of wood while the guy's refit the wing, outriggers tailplane etc.

Question: will the Fleet air arm be adding a SHAR to the histoic flight, it'll be good to see it at shows in place of the plastic beast.
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Old 11th Apr 2006, 08:10
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Twenty kms?! That is depressing. Does that even classify it as a BVR missile?

Also, What would the endurance of a SHAR carrying 2xDerby and 2xMagics be?
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Old 15th Apr 2006, 16:55
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Those of you who are missing the shar may want to take a look at this:http://thunder-works.com/
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Old 22nd Apr 2006, 06:27
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Originally Posted by cornwallis
Those of you who are missing the shar may want to take a look at this:http://thunder-works.com/
Hello to all. 1st post here. I'm one of the developers of the simulation mentioned above. I'm looking for more documentation on the Shar(FRS.1 only), specially the Flight Reference Cards, complementary to the Aircrew Manual-Flight Systems.

The aircraft's navigation & armament systems already got good coverage by the simulation as I've collected the required docs; I'm just interessed in flight charts and flight performance data - currently I'm using in the simulation some tuned-down (or up) Harrier II flight data because (the AV8B/GR5-7) was the only Harrier flight manual I was able to get hold. But we all know that the FRS.1 and 1st generation Harriers handles very different from second generation Harriers, so it's just a "placeholder" guesswork until I got better, Shar related flight data (which I hope will become more available since the RN just retired it).
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