Petition for the abolition of Crossbows
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Crossbow, me old, your mere questioning what a Tucano is has dropped you right in the middle of the 'pretending to be something that you are not' slot. If you were a (FJ) pilot as you are leading us to try to believe, then you would surely know what one is! In fact I think most of the RAF, and space cadets included, would know!
Rather telling wot.
As for nobody answering your questions, it seems that they have been answered continuously here and on other threads. There are very strong arguments for keeping OLF and the UKLFS, and they are all in the public domain as well as here.
As it is, I haven't heard any rumours within the service that the UKLFS is under threat of abolition. Always under threat of being reduced in size and opening hours, but not total abolition.
Now chum, any NEW questions from a keen and intersted member of the public, and I may assume, tax payer?
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Rather telling wot.
As for nobody answering your questions, it seems that they have been answered continuously here and on other threads. There are very strong arguments for keeping OLF and the UKLFS, and they are all in the public domain as well as here.
As it is, I haven't heard any rumours within the service that the UKLFS is under threat of abolition. Always under threat of being reduced in size and opening hours, but not total abolition.
Now chum, any NEW questions from a keen and intersted member of the public, and I may assume, tax payer?
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Your original queston re-UKLFS is valid, but your protestations over the quality of replies could be a little thin: there are ample subject comments on this thread and others that exhaust the topic.
It is the content and tone of some of your posts that has caused fellow PPRuNers to question your authenticity and motive. In my own post I'm simply trying to establish the former and thereby, if your claims are genuine, help your cause.
So for starters, will you answer my 4 simple questions?
Your original queston re-UKLFS is valid, but your protestations over the quality of replies could be a little thin: there are ample subject comments on this thread and others that exhaust the topic.
It is the content and tone of some of your posts that has caused fellow PPRuNers to question your authenticity and motive. In my own post I'm simply trying to establish the former and thereby, if your claims are genuine, help your cause.
So for starters, will you answer my 4 simple questions?
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crossbow,
You sad old chap! You have lowered your aim to such a degree that you have shot your bolt into both your feet - rather than being the shooter (as your name implies) you have become the target. Never a good thing for a fighter pilot to do and now, in a vain attempt to recover your position, you have lost your SA and your MAP is f***ed! I should bang out now before they close in for a guns kill.
I'll be kind! Let us suppose that you are military and are privileged to fly the latest wonder (not my words) jet at Warton. We can presume that you are either, therefore, a TP - makes sense - doesn't understand how to relate to people only machines - hasn't operationally low flown for years but has read about it in a book - or a Fighter pilot - makes sense - doesn't understand how to relate to people only machines - hasn't operationally low flown for years but has read about it in a book.
What is clear is that you are an arrogant, egotistical knob which clearly qualifies you for either of the 2 descriptions above.
The problem you have is that you are asking the wrong people to answer your question. This is a military aircrew forum. People on here know why we OLF and the fact that people out there don't understand is for Corporate Comms and the RAF Bfg Team to resolve. If you want to be provocative, then direct your question to the editor of The Daily Mail; that would certainly stir up a Hornet's Nest! But don't entertain your ego by continiung with this thread.
However, IMHO, the reason we conduct OLF and should continue to do so is because the next war will not be the same as the last war. Heaven help us, in 1991 we had to relearn how to release weapons from Medium Level having spent our lives charging about at 100ft!!
So, crossbow! If you are 45, if you do fly Typhoon and your son is really considering a career in the RAF, show some maturity and give us all a break. Change your callsign before you're outed and your son's life in the military is affected by having an idiot for a father.
Finally, if the implication is true that you are a Typhoon driver, where is one of your toys stranded today? The correct answer will prove that you are at least, in someone's eyes, of worth to society!
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You sad old chap! You have lowered your aim to such a degree that you have shot your bolt into both your feet - rather than being the shooter (as your name implies) you have become the target. Never a good thing for a fighter pilot to do and now, in a vain attempt to recover your position, you have lost your SA and your MAP is f***ed! I should bang out now before they close in for a guns kill.
I'll be kind! Let us suppose that you are military and are privileged to fly the latest wonder (not my words) jet at Warton. We can presume that you are either, therefore, a TP - makes sense - doesn't understand how to relate to people only machines - hasn't operationally low flown for years but has read about it in a book - or a Fighter pilot - makes sense - doesn't understand how to relate to people only machines - hasn't operationally low flown for years but has read about it in a book.
What is clear is that you are an arrogant, egotistical knob which clearly qualifies you for either of the 2 descriptions above.
The problem you have is that you are asking the wrong people to answer your question. This is a military aircrew forum. People on here know why we OLF and the fact that people out there don't understand is for Corporate Comms and the RAF Bfg Team to resolve. If you want to be provocative, then direct your question to the editor of The Daily Mail; that would certainly stir up a Hornet's Nest! But don't entertain your ego by continiung with this thread.
However, IMHO, the reason we conduct OLF and should continue to do so is because the next war will not be the same as the last war. Heaven help us, in 1991 we had to relearn how to release weapons from Medium Level having spent our lives charging about at 100ft!!
So, crossbow! If you are 45, if you do fly Typhoon and your son is really considering a career in the RAF, show some maturity and give us all a break. Change your callsign before you're outed and your son's life in the military is affected by having an idiot for a father.
Finally, if the implication is true that you are a Typhoon driver, where is one of your toys stranded today? The correct answer will prove that you are at least, in someone's eyes, of worth to society!
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Tee Hee, this is brilliant.
So, why do you think we should conduct LF training in the UK?
Because youre a T1T !
Good, thank you for your answer. I’m sorry but your application to join the RAF has been unsuccessful. Have you considered joining the Navy, I’m sure they could fit you in.
So, why do you think we should conduct LF training in the UK?
Because youre a T1T !
Good, thank you for your answer. I’m sorry but your application to join the RAF has been unsuccessful. Have you considered joining the Navy, I’m sure they could fit you in.
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hahahaha, you may laugh hyd3failure (which aircraft has 3 Hydraulic systems?) but I don't think its funny.
Anyway, my sources in MOD tell me that we may have lost that battle so I'm shifting target. No mor LF drips...the next item on the agenda shall now be up for discussion.
Will the reduction in Flying Hours have a detrimental affect on our OC ?
Anyway, my sources in MOD tell me that we may have lost that battle so I'm shifting target. No mor LF drips...the next item on the agenda shall now be up for discussion.
Will the reduction in Flying Hours have a detrimental affect on our OC ?
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What a marvellous piece of prose, right on the money I would suggest.
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What a marvellous piece of prose, right on the money I would suggest.
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"""""""with gluey fingerprints all over the canopy and the fin flash on back to front, I should think.""""""""
The real one could well be like that too !!![Wink](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
"""""""with gluey fingerprints all over the canopy and the fin flash on back to front, I should think.""""""""
The real one could well be like that too !!
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And no doubt extra weapons acquired from Airfix using that 'Nature of Complaint' slip so often used by little boys writing to Haldane(?) Place!
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To paraphrase Oscar Wilde: There is only one thing worse than been talked about and that is NOT being talked about. Therefore if we stop talking to/about crossbow then maybe, just maybe he'll disappear (some hope). Crossbow, in answer to your question 'which aircraft has 3 hydraulic systems' I know of one, the Sea King, with primary, auxiliary and utilities. No doubt you will use this piece of info to convince everyone that you are now an expert on helicopters as well as being a right know-it-all on every other aviation subject under the sun.
Ooops, just failed at the first hurdle and talked to and about crossbow, I promise to buck up!
Ooops, just failed at the first hurdle and talked to and about crossbow, I promise to buck up!
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Me thinks old Crossbow may be talking b0ll0x re his carreer to date. I have recently departed the EF world at Warton and know of no one with his credentials. But then talking b0ll0x seems to be his forte!
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Come one crossbow, where are you. Everyone is laughing at you, are you not going to defend yourself???
He is probably busy writing a Valentines Card to Geoff Hoon or being a sycophantic little turd somewhere else on PPrune.
He is probably busy writing a Valentines Card to Geoff Hoon or being a sycophantic little turd somewhere else on PPrune.
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I don't know what you're tee heeing about! You were the target of despise a couple of weeks ago for being equal in tw*ttishness to this prat!
Or is it just that the spotlight has moved?
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I don't know what you're tee heeing about! You were the target of despise a couple of weeks ago for being equal in tw*ttishness to this prat!
Or is it just that the spotlight has moved?
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Nice one chaps,
I do believe we have finally "splashed" this little annoyance.
The inability to even talk the talk let alone walk the walk was a tad obvious. (ooh that reminds me - what's a TAD?)
Happy hunting
I do believe we have finally "splashed" this little annoyance.
The inability to even talk the talk let alone walk the walk was a tad obvious. (ooh that reminds me - what's a TAD?)
Happy hunting
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Oh dear! I've just noticed that we've all been arguing over the wrong thing on this thread - the title refers to a petition to get rid of CROSSBOWS (the weapon) - not Crossbow!
Although, come to think of it...
Although, come to think of it...
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