Petition for the abolition of Crossbows
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Crossbow,
I suspect that if you really want honest and frank replies you are going to have to display your credentials.
At the moment you only come across as a "wind-up merchant", with dubious "professional" qualifications.
IMHO No one is taking you seriously, as an equal, nor I'm afraid as an individual worthy of a respectful response. From what field of expertise do you base you statements?
This remains a forum not a pi**ing contest, come to the table with something cogent to say! The "I'm only playing devil's advocate" does not cut it.
P.S. READ some of the replies you have had - they fully answer the naive Q you pose
(all spelling mistakes are to annoy any English teachers reading this)
I suspect that if you really want honest and frank replies you are going to have to display your credentials.
At the moment you only come across as a "wind-up merchant", with dubious "professional" qualifications.
IMHO No one is taking you seriously, as an equal, nor I'm afraid as an individual worthy of a respectful response. From what field of expertise do you base you statements?
This remains a forum not a pi**ing contest, come to the table with something cogent to say! The "I'm only playing devil's advocate" does not cut it.
P.S. READ some of the replies you have had - they fully answer the naive Q you pose
(all spelling mistakes are to annoy any English teachers reading this)
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Someone asked the quite reasonable question:
<<Why should we low fly in the UK when our area of Operations is in the Gulf?>>
Of course the underlying assumption that our AOA is in the Gulf is central to the question. Is the assumption valid?
Most Gulf States are friendly and can provide useful low flying but they are not operational areas. Iraq, OTH, has been badland territory for 14 or so years but not, one hopes, for much longer.
Afghanistan is not, as far as my limited knowledge of geography is concerned is not the Gulf. The height of the terrain there however makes much medium altitude flying very near the ground. (Note the 'new' term altitude flying that was introduced about 30 years ago. Level flying gets you killed).
Last time I flew low level over Iran it looked much like a mix between industrial conurbations and Arizona. It did not look like desert except for the various messa.
Africa is not in the Gulf. Africa does have deserts and Libyia was great for low flying but lots of other areas have jungle.
Rushing round the treetops in Malaysia is also great fun and a quick way to lose weight.
The Falklands is not exatly flat, nor is it sandy.
I could go on but my point is that we are not solely engaged in the Gulf. After 15 years that focus must reduce. Other flash points will arise. How would a desert trained air force have coped in Yugoslavia?
We must train in areas with cultural features as much as natural ones so that we maintain a general level of competence that can be honed to FOC as required. You cannot do this in a couple of weeks.
Comments?
<<Why should we low fly in the UK when our area of Operations is in the Gulf?>>
Of course the underlying assumption that our AOA is in the Gulf is central to the question. Is the assumption valid?
Most Gulf States are friendly and can provide useful low flying but they are not operational areas. Iraq, OTH, has been badland territory for 14 or so years but not, one hopes, for much longer.
Afghanistan is not, as far as my limited knowledge of geography is concerned is not the Gulf. The height of the terrain there however makes much medium altitude flying very near the ground. (Note the 'new' term altitude flying that was introduced about 30 years ago. Level flying gets you killed).
Last time I flew low level over Iran it looked much like a mix between industrial conurbations and Arizona. It did not look like desert except for the various messa.
Africa is not in the Gulf. Africa does have deserts and Libyia was great for low flying but lots of other areas have jungle.
Rushing round the treetops in Malaysia is also great fun and a quick way to lose weight.
The Falklands is not exatly flat, nor is it sandy.
I could go on but my point is that we are not solely engaged in the Gulf. After 15 years that focus must reduce. Other flash points will arise. How would a desert trained air force have coped in Yugoslavia?
We must train in areas with cultural features as much as natural ones so that we maintain a general level of competence that can be honed to FOC as required. You cannot do this in a couple of weeks.
Comments?
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For those who crossbow is attempting to goad into further discourse on this subject, I posted a reply to all his questions, which he accepted quite graciously, on the JHC thread.
The fact that he is still trying to discuss it leads me to believe he is trolling.
The fact that he is still trying to discuss it leads me to believe he is trolling.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yeah!
Why then, with that pedigree, ask such daft questions? I'm utterly mystified (a common occurance)
Are you a current service pilot?
Have you flown on an operational Sqn on ops?
(all spelling mistakes are still to annoy any English teachers reading this)
Why then, with that pedigree, ask such daft questions? I'm utterly mystified (a common occurance)
Are you a current service pilot?
Have you flown on an operational Sqn on ops?
(all spelling mistakes are still to annoy any English teachers reading this)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Strasbourg and hotter places
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So,
Tucano too ? Retrograde step for a man who went to Liverpool Uni (John Moore's now ?) joined the RAF in 1976, who's now "over 45" (That should be vague enough for them Ppruners) and has flown everything from a Hawker Hind to the Space Shuttle. Oh and he's a TP, you just knew he was going to be one of those too didn't you.
I bet he drives a Morgan three wheeeler
Tucano too ? Retrograde step for a man who went to Liverpool Uni (John Moore's now ?) joined the RAF in 1976, who's now "over 45" (That should be vague enough for them Ppruners) and has flown everything from a Hawker Hind to the Space Shuttle. Oh and he's a TP, you just knew he was going to be one of those too didn't you.
I bet he drives a Morgan three wheeeler
Guest
Posts: n/a
Isn't this great. I ask a querstion and the horror of the answer is soooo scary that rather than face up to answering the question the general comment is abusive and hurtful. For example. I ask the question: Why should we low fly in the UK? The answers so far have been:
1.No need to neuter crossbow, everything he does and says is off target.
2.What a plonker!!!
3. TMAC....
4. he is still a T1T.
which leads me to the conclusion that (Except for one person) the rest of you are either Journo's fishing or groundcrew who don't know anything about OLF. Whatever you are, you are clearly not that bothered about retaining OLF in the UK as there clearly isn't a requirment.
1.No need to neuter crossbow, everything he does and says is off target.
2.What a plonker!!!
3. TMAC....
4. he is still a T1T.
which leads me to the conclusion that (Except for one person) the rest of you are either Journo's fishing or groundcrew who don't know anything about OLF. Whatever you are, you are clearly not that bothered about retaining OLF in the UK as there clearly isn't a requirment.