Hour building vs type rating?
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Hour building vs type rating?
I'm trying to think what would be the best next step to make myself more attractive to potential employers.
I am in the sub 500hrs tt category, I can think of two options:
1. Spend money and build hours abroad in a PA28 or similar.
2. Spend same amount of money on a type rating, then apply to operators of that type.
I know the type rating question is contraversial to say the least, but the benefits of hr building vs type rating don't seem to have been discussed.
What do you think?
I am in the sub 500hrs tt category, I can think of two options:
1. Spend money and build hours abroad in a PA28 or similar.
2. Spend same amount of money on a type rating, then apply to operators of that type.
I know the type rating question is contraversial to say the least, but the benefits of hr building vs type rating don't seem to have been discussed.
What do you think?
Good question.
As far as I've been able to asertain, the recruitrs have two piles for CV's, one that goes straight into the bin, and the other that they may take a closer look at.
My hunch is at the moment the sub 1000 hour TT go towards the bin. Would a type rating get you a closer look? Probably. would the extra hours get you a closer look? Possibly.
If you had both, would that get you a closer look? Probably.
However, doing a TR will make it more dificult for you to get a job on a different type, and that may well counter the benefit of doing one.
There is an argument that says that the biggest problem for the recruiters is knowing what sort of training risk you are, and doing a TR goes some way towards mittigating that. The extra 500 hours on the other hand would not unless they where 'quality' multi time.
Be warned that if you go down the TR route, you'll get no end of criticism in here and other places.
All this is my view.
Splat
As far as I've been able to asertain, the recruitrs have two piles for CV's, one that goes straight into the bin, and the other that they may take a closer look at.
My hunch is at the moment the sub 1000 hour TT go towards the bin. Would a type rating get you a closer look? Probably. would the extra hours get you a closer look? Possibly.
If you had both, would that get you a closer look? Probably.
However, doing a TR will make it more dificult for you to get a job on a different type, and that may well counter the benefit of doing one.
There is an argument that says that the biggest problem for the recruiters is knowing what sort of training risk you are, and doing a TR goes some way towards mittigating that. The extra 500 hours on the other hand would not unless they where 'quality' multi time.
Be warned that if you go down the TR route, you'll get no end of criticism in here and other places.
All this is my view.
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If you are talkin 'type rating' money, there is a third option. About 3K will get you a pretty tasty VP1 or similar. Build about 500 hours in it, look after it and then sell it for about what you paid for it, which shouldn't take too long.
Better still, buy it between a few of you to spread the cost and save some money to hire a decent modern trainer to keep you up to speed on your IF from time to time.
Just a thought maybe.........
Better still, buy it between a few of you to spread the cost and save some money to hire a decent modern trainer to keep you up to speed on your IF from time to time.
Just a thought maybe.........
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And another option.......
This is the one I would choose if I had any cash. The Instructors rating. You get your rating, and you get to build hours instructing. Then when you get your airline job, you still get to instruct if you fancy it. Looking way into the future, when you retire after many years earning a fortune flying something big, you get to instruct again, purely for fun. Perfect.
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This is the one I would choose if I had any cash. The Instructors rating. You get your rating, and you get to build hours instructing. Then when you get your airline job, you still get to instruct if you fancy it. Looking way into the future, when you retire after many years earning a fortune flying something big, you get to instruct again, purely for fun. Perfect.
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Well Said Worzel.
Spend some money on an instructors rating, that way you get to build your hours up to a decent level while earning some pocket money along the way. Having some experience never hurts anyones chances of getting a job and you never know, once you do get offered a job your future employer may actually offer to pay for the type rating!!!
have a look for the "light at the end of the tunnel" topic.
Spend some money on an instructors rating, that way you get to build your hours up to a decent level while earning some pocket money along the way. Having some experience never hurts anyones chances of getting a job and you never know, once you do get offered a job your future employer may actually offer to pay for the type rating!!!
have a look for the "light at the end of the tunnel" topic.
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Do get your Instructors rating. You'll love it and you'll learn so much it's untrue!
It'll open your eyes flying with the great PPL's of this fine nation and you have to check them out.
Do it Do it Do it!!
I've had a blast..........
It'll open your eyes flying with the great PPL's of this fine nation and you have to check them out.
Do it Do it Do it!!
I've had a blast..........
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Hyper Pyper,
I'm just starting out on my training, and hopefully the market will have picked up by the time I qualify next year. However, if it hasn't, I will probably look to get an FI rating & build hours that way. Out of interest, do you know what the pay is per hour, as I believe there are no salried FI jobs around for people like me.
I guess the reality is you get paid next to nothing, but if you look at it as every hour you instruct your actually being paid for hour building, then it's not so bad...!
DW
I'm just starting out on my training, and hopefully the market will have picked up by the time I qualify next year. However, if it hasn't, I will probably look to get an FI rating & build hours that way. Out of interest, do you know what the pay is per hour, as I believe there are no salried FI jobs around for people like me.
I guess the reality is you get paid next to nothing, but if you look at it as every hour you instruct your actually being paid for hour building, then it's not so bad...!
DW
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Don't forget though, you're not guaranteed an FI job, even after spending your money, and what have you achieved then?????
Devils advocate and all that!!
Devils advocate and all that!!
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A very good point, there is currently an oversupply of green FIs, as the post 2001 generation of new CPL/IRs saw the dearth of opportunities in airlines and went out and got themselves FI raitngs. Meanwhile the PPL training market has also shrunk over the last few years as the economic outlook has put people off paying lots of money on what is basically an expensive luxury.
Thankfully there is finally some movement of experienced FIs off to airlines which makes opportunities at the bottom end, but I feel it is not enough to mop up the surplus.
Thankfully there is finally some movement of experienced FIs off to airlines which makes opportunities at the bottom end, but I feel it is not enough to mop up the surplus.
