Logbook problems - Will it affect an interview?
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Logbook problems - Will it affect an interview?
I recently had my logbook stolen by a load of "wealth re distributors" outside a nightclub..
What was it doing on my passenger seat? Why wasn't I keeping copies of all pages? Why was I at a dodgy nightclub instead of practicing holds on flight sim? You are exactly right..
Anyway, I now have my PPL time summarized at the beginning of the logbook and my remaining 120 hours detailed afterwards as I had copies for them. I have all stamps done by the original instructors at the flying school where I earned them.
As an interviewer would want to paw over my logbook no doubt, will this present any problems? Would they likely want to see my first flights in detail? How do I rectify this? (I've visited CAA in person asking for copies of what I had sent to them from my logbook on obtaining my PPL, which are now 'lost'")
Anyway, if there is a very shoddy pilot around FAPE at the moment with 170 odd hours and a Cornish surname, it's not me..
Thanks!
What was it doing on my passenger seat? Why wasn't I keeping copies of all pages? Why was I at a dodgy nightclub instead of practicing holds on flight sim? You are exactly right..
Anyway, I now have my PPL time summarized at the beginning of the logbook and my remaining 120 hours detailed afterwards as I had copies for them. I have all stamps done by the original instructors at the flying school where I earned them.
As an interviewer would want to paw over my logbook no doubt, will this present any problems? Would they likely want to see my first flights in detail? How do I rectify this? (I've visited CAA in person asking for copies of what I had sent to them from my logbook on obtaining my PPL, which are now 'lost'")
Anyway, if there is a very shoddy pilot around FAPE at the moment with 170 odd hours and a Cornish surname, it's not me..
Thanks!
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I dont think it should be a problem
Langeveldt,
Back in 2007 after getting my PPL I had a similar problem.
I didn't have my logbook stolen, however I did leave it in the backseat of a taxi. I had to do the same thing, summarize my total time at the beginning of the new logbook and then start recording any new time.
I started making copies of my logbook and also purchased online logbook software. I recommend you checkout "safelog" from dauntless aviation. Safelog FAA and EASA (CAA/JAA) Pilot Logbook Software and Online Pilot Logbook
Going forward just make sure you start a file and keep multiple certified copies of your flight time in case you loose your original logbook again for any reason (theft, accident, etc) and also make sure you keep all the receipts for any flight time your purchased from your flight training facility. I even keep receipts for every single aviation item I have ever purchased dating back to 2006 and I'm amazed to see how much money I've spent so far.
Now going back to your original question, I think that not having the first entries of your logbook won't be a major issue provided that you can supply the company with alternate documentation that will allow them to verify your training.
The airlines from my country COPA (international carrier) and AIRPANAMA (regional and international) ask for either the final page of your logbook or the last 2 pages of your logbook to be stamped.
Same thing goes for other airlines in LATAM. I'm attaching some links so you can see examples.
Example from Delta airlines:
Delta - Pilot Basics
Example from COPA airlines
First Officer jobs, Airlines Pilots, Requirements for First Officer
Examples from LANCOLOMBIA and LANCHILE, these ones you will have to translate into english (from spanish) using google translate:
LAN >> Pilotos-Primer Oficial
Requisitos de Ingreso - Pilotos - LAN.com
Hope this helps.
Back in 2007 after getting my PPL I had a similar problem.
I didn't have my logbook stolen, however I did leave it in the backseat of a taxi. I had to do the same thing, summarize my total time at the beginning of the new logbook and then start recording any new time.
I started making copies of my logbook and also purchased online logbook software. I recommend you checkout "safelog" from dauntless aviation. Safelog FAA and EASA (CAA/JAA) Pilot Logbook Software and Online Pilot Logbook
Going forward just make sure you start a file and keep multiple certified copies of your flight time in case you loose your original logbook again for any reason (theft, accident, etc) and also make sure you keep all the receipts for any flight time your purchased from your flight training facility. I even keep receipts for every single aviation item I have ever purchased dating back to 2006 and I'm amazed to see how much money I've spent so far.
Now going back to your original question, I think that not having the first entries of your logbook won't be a major issue provided that you can supply the company with alternate documentation that will allow them to verify your training.
The airlines from my country COPA (international carrier) and AIRPANAMA (regional and international) ask for either the final page of your logbook or the last 2 pages of your logbook to be stamped.
Same thing goes for other airlines in LATAM. I'm attaching some links so you can see examples.
Example from Delta airlines:
Delta - Pilot Basics
Example from COPA airlines
First Officer jobs, Airlines Pilots, Requirements for First Officer
Examples from LANCOLOMBIA and LANCHILE, these ones you will have to translate into english (from spanish) using google translate:
LAN >> Pilotos-Primer Oficial
Requisitos de Ingreso - Pilotos - LAN.com
Hope this helps.
Educated Hillbilly
From LASORs,
Individuals who have lost their logbook(s) and are
intending to obtain further licences/ratings will be required
to obtain a Sworn Affidavit, completed through a solicitor
or Commissioner of Oaths, detailing their flying hours to
the best of their knowledge. The flying hours should be
detailed into categories in conjunction with the applicable
licence requirements. This is required in order for us to be
able to confirm flying experience when a further licence
is applied for.
Individuals who do not intend to obtain any further licence
(i.e. ATPL holders) are not required to obtain a Sworn
Affidavit, but may wish to start a new logbook
Individuals who have lost their logbook(s) and are
intending to obtain further licences/ratings will be required
to obtain a Sworn Affidavit, completed through a solicitor
or Commissioner of Oaths, detailing their flying hours to
the best of their knowledge. The flying hours should be
detailed into categories in conjunction with the applicable
licence requirements. This is required in order for us to be
able to confirm flying experience when a further licence
is applied for.
Individuals who do not intend to obtain any further licence
(i.e. ATPL holders) are not required to obtain a Sworn
Affidavit, but may wish to start a new logbook
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I have flown a range of aircraft in different areas of the country. I have all the stamps for the flying/aircraft that I intend to fly again though.
Thanks for the concise replies, a bit of a relief no doubt
Thanks for the concise replies, a bit of a relief no doubt