Easyjet New Ab-initio scheme :)
It becomes an ATPL when you have 1,500hrs = 2 years experience + a 6th monthly sim check that went OK.
The company always makes a record breaking loss. Followed by a record breaking profit. We report six monthly - go figure. easyJet grew by 12% last year following the worst recession since WW2. Thats a doubling rate of less than 6 years. This is still the landgrab phase.
Nobody apply. All hold off. Eventually, quite quickly in fact, airlines would be offering fully funded cadetships again.
Ah.
WWW
The company always makes a record breaking loss. Followed by a record breaking profit. We report six monthly - go figure. easyJet grew by 12% last year following the worst recession since WW2. Thats a doubling rate of less than 6 years. This is still the landgrab phase.
Nobody apply. All hold off. Eventually, quite quickly in fact, airlines would be offering fully funded cadetships again.
Ah.
WWW
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I've been fairly active in this thread and I'm fascinated by how it's developed, some really great points being made.
I was invited to the final stage of interviews for this scheme starting next week however I've had to turn down the assessment. It turns out based on my family's finances I'm not eligible for the BBVA loan, and quite frankly I'm kind of happy. At the age of 17 I really didn't want to put my family's wealth at risk, not even if it meant achieving my dreams. I'd hardly say I'm impatient or that I'd been lured in by the marketing of the FTO's. I did my research, attended events and thought long and hard about everything.
This scheme sounds fantastic for those that can afford £100k without a secured loan. OAA is an amazing FTO (but very expensive!) and easyJet are a great airline.
But, I've decided that modular is the best route for me to take. Not only because it will work out cheaper, but for several other reasons. Firstly, I think this course removes the element of fun from learning to fly. It removes the flying hours and replaces them with multi crew sim time. Yeah, simulators can be great fun, but who can really say that diving into a CRJ sim before you can fly a Cessna beats taking up a single engine aircraft and learning from scratch how to fly a plane? I loved the 15 hours of flying time I did last year and I can't wait to get started again as a modular student flying around the local area. The hour building also looks like great fun! I have been speaking to a RYR pilot recently who crossed about 10 different countries in Europe in one day during his hour building phase. You can fly in the USA and make trips to all of the famous cities across the USA. And what's more you're in control of where and when you fly and how much it will cost!
I'm a 17 year old with no commitments at all, I've got years to sit up front of a big airliner pushing buttons. What I really want is to work my off for a few years while learning to fly. Then to leave and either build up hours as an instructor or fly regional. I'd be paid pennies but I'd be young with no debts to pay off, no kids to pay for and my log book would be filling up. I'd love to travel the world and take jobs wherever they come up. Maybe then I'd be lucky enough to get a break and start flying airliners for a living but I really can't justify risking my parents house for a course that is £60k more than the modular route and that, for me, has taken the fun out of learning to fly and being a young pilot.
Although this post is not relevant to the thread theme at all, I just wanted to partly give my advice to others who may be considering risking their parent's house to get to where they wanna be and also share my enlightenment with those that have been following this thread and thank those that have offered me advice throughout. Good luck to those attending stage 3 too.
I was invited to the final stage of interviews for this scheme starting next week however I've had to turn down the assessment. It turns out based on my family's finances I'm not eligible for the BBVA loan, and quite frankly I'm kind of happy. At the age of 17 I really didn't want to put my family's wealth at risk, not even if it meant achieving my dreams. I'd hardly say I'm impatient or that I'd been lured in by the marketing of the FTO's. I did my research, attended events and thought long and hard about everything.
This scheme sounds fantastic for those that can afford £100k without a secured loan. OAA is an amazing FTO (but very expensive!) and easyJet are a great airline.
But, I've decided that modular is the best route for me to take. Not only because it will work out cheaper, but for several other reasons. Firstly, I think this course removes the element of fun from learning to fly. It removes the flying hours and replaces them with multi crew sim time. Yeah, simulators can be great fun, but who can really say that diving into a CRJ sim before you can fly a Cessna beats taking up a single engine aircraft and learning from scratch how to fly a plane? I loved the 15 hours of flying time I did last year and I can't wait to get started again as a modular student flying around the local area. The hour building also looks like great fun! I have been speaking to a RYR pilot recently who crossed about 10 different countries in Europe in one day during his hour building phase. You can fly in the USA and make trips to all of the famous cities across the USA. And what's more you're in control of where and when you fly and how much it will cost!
I'm a 17 year old with no commitments at all, I've got years to sit up front of a big airliner pushing buttons. What I really want is to work my off for a few years while learning to fly. Then to leave and either build up hours as an instructor or fly regional. I'd be paid pennies but I'd be young with no debts to pay off, no kids to pay for and my log book would be filling up. I'd love to travel the world and take jobs wherever they come up. Maybe then I'd be lucky enough to get a break and start flying airliners for a living but I really can't justify risking my parents house for a course that is £60k more than the modular route and that, for me, has taken the fun out of learning to fly and being a young pilot.
Although this post is not relevant to the thread theme at all, I just wanted to partly give my advice to others who may be considering risking their parent's house to get to where they wanna be and also share my enlightenment with those that have been following this thread and thank those that have offered me advice throughout. Good luck to those attending stage 3 too.
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Callum,
A very respectable and logical approach. You have also broached a fundamental espect of being a professional pilot, situational awareness and risk evaluation.
Not only the modular will you have a foundation to build on your experience, but when you hit that mark, somewhere between perhaps 85 and 110 hours, you'll suddenly realise how little a pilot knows at that stage, as the saying goes, you will know enough to scare yourself.
Don't for one minute wonder again 'what might have been'. What might have been in the risk stakes could well have left you in the future regretting the risk to yourself, your professional and personal future and that of your parents.
It may seem like a long way off and I am sure you have heard it before, but you *do* have time on your side.
We all look forward to you sticking around on Pprune and sincerely wish you the best.
A very respectable and logical approach. You have also broached a fundamental espect of being a professional pilot, situational awareness and risk evaluation.
Not only the modular will you have a foundation to build on your experience, but when you hit that mark, somewhere between perhaps 85 and 110 hours, you'll suddenly realise how little a pilot knows at that stage, as the saying goes, you will know enough to scare yourself.
Don't for one minute wonder again 'what might have been'. What might have been in the risk stakes could well have left you in the future regretting the risk to yourself, your professional and personal future and that of your parents.
It may seem like a long way off and I am sure you have heard it before, but you *do* have time on your side.
We all look forward to you sticking around on Pprune and sincerely wish you the best.
Callum,
The very best of luck to you. The risk was too high, and you diverted early. Nice one!
Enjoy the upcoming adventure - most of us look back longingly at the early years - the fear of the next test, the despair when there seems to be no path forward, the satisfaction when you get it right, the hairy moments and the, er, parties in far off places. Never, ever give in - and report back when you are qualified.
The very best of luck to you. The risk was too high, and you diverted early. Nice one!
Enjoy the upcoming adventure - most of us look back longingly at the early years - the fear of the next test, the despair when there seems to be no path forward, the satisfaction when you get it right, the hairy moments and the, er, parties in far off places. Never, ever give in - and report back when you are qualified.
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Another way of looking at this from a purely financial standpoint is:
I wish I'd of started flying at 18 years of age as by now I'd (hopefully) be a captain and probably with a big carrier.
The 100k is a ridiculous sum but it makes more financial sense for an 18 year old rather than for instance a 28 year old. Basically the sooner you start flying, the sooner in life it is until your earning decent money.
But yes you've made a good decision as at 18 you've bugger all life experience. Hopefully there are many good applicants such as you who have made the final stage and then said 'No thanks'.
PS the CPL/IR route is way more fun than this MPL
I wish I'd of started flying at 18 years of age as by now I'd (hopefully) be a captain and probably with a big carrier.
The 100k is a ridiculous sum but it makes more financial sense for an 18 year old rather than for instance a 28 year old. Basically the sooner you start flying, the sooner in life it is until your earning decent money.
But yes you've made a good decision as at 18 you've bugger all life experience. Hopefully there are many good applicants such as you who have made the final stage and then said 'No thanks'.
PS the CPL/IR route is way more fun than this MPL
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Callum,
A very respectable and logical approach. You have also broached a fundamental espect of being a professional pilot, situational awareness and risk evaluation.
Not only the modular will you have a foundation to build on your experience, but when you hit that mark, somewhere between perhaps 85 and 110 hours, you'll suddenly realise how little a pilot knows at that stage, as the saying goes, you will know enough to scare yourself.
Don't for one minute wonder again 'what might have been'. What might have been in the risk stakes could well have left you in the future regretting the risk to yourself, your professional and personal future and that of your parents.
It may seem like a long way off and I am sure you have heard it before, but you *do* have time on your side.
We all look forward to you sticking around on PPRuNe and sincerely wish you the best.
A very respectable and logical approach. You have also broached a fundamental espect of being a professional pilot, situational awareness and risk evaluation.
Not only the modular will you have a foundation to build on your experience, but when you hit that mark, somewhere between perhaps 85 and 110 hours, you'll suddenly realise how little a pilot knows at that stage, as the saying goes, you will know enough to scare yourself.
Don't for one minute wonder again 'what might have been'. What might have been in the risk stakes could well have left you in the future regretting the risk to yourself, your professional and personal future and that of your parents.
It may seem like a long way off and I am sure you have heard it before, but you *do* have time on your side.
We all look forward to you sticking around on PPRuNe and sincerely wish you the best.
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Whilst I agree that it is about T&E I disagree that it is not relevant here. For those looking at participating in the OAA/EZY MPL any news regarding Pilots pay and the relationship between management and the Pilots is relevant.
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Whilst I agree that it is about T&E I disagree that it is not relevant here. For those looking at participating in the OAA/EZY MPL any news regarding Pilots pay and the relationship between management and the Pilots is relevant.
also it's something that existing EZ pilots may want to discuss seeing as they are the ones are and have been at the 'coal face' and are BALPA represented.
it belongs in T&E and is in no way attributable to the OAA/EZ MPL ab-initio scheme.
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Easyjet/OAA launch new application dates for the Cadet mentored scheme (Oct 19th)....
I got an email to attend the interview last time but was unable to make it due to my final year University commitments. I am wondering if someone could please explain to me the problem with this scheme (apart from the money), is it not the same sort of training? Do I not get a frozen ATPL after it?
Thanks in advance
I got an email to attend the interview last time but was unable to make it due to my final year University commitments. I am wondering if someone could please explain to me the problem with this scheme (apart from the money), is it not the same sort of training? Do I not get a frozen ATPL after it?
Thanks in advance
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An amazing amount of rubbish being bounded about re the MPL. The feedback from Flybe about the first 2 courses (Jerez and OAA) has reportedly been very positive indeed. It is about time flight training was brought into the 21st century.
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i dont know if anyone has read the new updated application pages for the Easyjet mentored scheme, but it seems to be offering graduates of the scheme a starting salary of well over £38,000 thru parc aviation.
Im not sure if I have read this correctly, but could someone shed some light to me about Parc aviation.
Sorry to be a pain, thanking you in advance....
Im not sure if I have read this correctly, but could someone shed some light to me about Parc aviation.
Sorry to be a pain, thanking you in advance....