A320 vacancies
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South London
Age: 42
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would never call anyone who has payed for a TR/line training a fellow pilot. they are pay-to-fly wanabe's.
Not to mention if you go through CTC you have to work for nothing for six months, suppose that doesn't count?
Personally I think paying for line training is disgraceful.
But I can't see much difference between paying for a type rating and paying the extra money to go to Oxford/CTC etc either.
No one employed by easyjet paid for line training. The few that did recently were shown the door once their 150hrs of fun was over. So I don't know where you get all this 90% stuff from. A large number of ezy pilots paid for their initial TR though, that cannot be disputed. Although I got a B737 rating on joining and an A320 rating 12 months later, I think it was buy one get one free that year
Anyone who goes through CTC effectively pays for their jet rating with absolutely no guarantee of a job. I'm not criticising anyone who does this, paying for a TR is becoming common practise. Paying for line training is a crock of and is the next big threat to industry T&Cs.
Good luck Narwhal, to be blunt with 300hrs I can't think of anywhere, certainly not within Europe.
Anyone who goes through CTC effectively pays for their jet rating with absolutely no guarantee of a job. I'm not criticising anyone who does this, paying for a TR is becoming common practise. Paying for line training is a crock of and is the next big threat to industry T&Cs.
Good luck Narwhal, to be blunt with 300hrs I can't think of anywhere, certainly not within Europe.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: World
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rated people go through.
Hey guys.We should help each other and not argue between us.
I know people with just a type rating and low flying piston hours that got jobs. They had contacts and they knew they would get a job sooner or later.
Is it about knowing people in key positions?
Unfortunately i dont have an aviation background,a captain father or a person in a high position to help me as many people have.
For those saying that you cant get a job with low hours Aer Lingus is a good example.Unfortunately i heard about it a bit late.
I know people with just a type rating and low flying piston hours that got jobs. They had contacts and they knew they would get a job sooner or later.
Is it about knowing people in key positions?
Unfortunately i dont have an aviation background,a captain father or a person in a high position to help me as many people have.
For those saying that you cant get a job with low hours Aer Lingus is a good example.Unfortunately i heard about it a bit late.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: With RollerGirl
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SW1 I posted that information yesterday see post 21. Unfortunately as usual with this Forum people are so busy arguing the toss about rubbish that they ignore the useful information.
Guys although I don't agree with paying for a TR, I do realise that sometimes to get on in life it takes a gamble or two. So why don't you all stop bitching and combine your efforts into helping each other.
Roller
Guys although I don't agree with paying for a TR, I do realise that sometimes to get on in life it takes a gamble or two. So why don't you all stop bitching and combine your efforts into helping each other.
Roller
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Cardboard box
Age: 35
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Did you guys see the minimum requirements??
Minimum requirements:
- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK
Minimum requirements:
- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: With RollerGirl
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yes but it's not just the opening poster who will look at the thread. Besides worth a try even if you don't exactly fit the criteria. A320 Vacancies is A320 Vacancies if the thread was titled A320 Vacancies with NO hrs on type I wouldn't have posted.
Get the picture?
Get the picture?
From Untitled Document, it says TCX pay 2.58£ per hour is that block hours or duty hours? What would be the average amount of hours during the summer season?
Thanks
Thanks
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Europe
Age: 40
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Minimum requirements:
- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK
Guys, if I have all of this except the last one, do I have any chance?
What do u think?
- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK
Guys, if I have all of this except the last one, do I have any chance?
What do u think?
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Age: 63
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just a bit of trivia from the States.......
Southwest Airlines has required a type rating "in hand" prior to any hiring for as long as they have been in operation. The only relief they gave anyone was that they could interview if not in hand but it must be completed prior to hiring. In other words you buy it!
No one has ever called them on it before but they are, and always have been the biggest pay for training operation anywhere!
There are countless pilots who bought the 737 type only to be left at the alter by SWA. (no not me)
The rules have all changed today. Every company is looking to leverage the jobs by having the pilots subsidize the taining program by coming in typed and current.
Watch the job boards as the placement services keep quoting "New Terms" to try and entice pilots to jump ship to go to another operator. We are a commodity and those companies only want their fees!
New world out there.
Southwest Airlines has required a type rating "in hand" prior to any hiring for as long as they have been in operation. The only relief they gave anyone was that they could interview if not in hand but it must be completed prior to hiring. In other words you buy it!
No one has ever called them on it before but they are, and always have been the biggest pay for training operation anywhere!
There are countless pilots who bought the 737 type only to be left at the alter by SWA. (no not me)
The rules have all changed today. Every company is looking to leverage the jobs by having the pilots subsidize the taining program by coming in typed and current.
Watch the job boards as the placement services keep quoting "New Terms" to try and entice pilots to jump ship to go to another operator. We are a commodity and those companies only want their fees!
New world out there.
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rochester, MN
Age: 39
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Type Rating
I think it is absolutely ridiculous for anybody to critisize somebody for going out and getting a type rating. Like any profession (Doctor, Lawyer, Businessman etc) school and degrees are required to reach their objective in life. Those who critized only do so because they don't have the money, or are not willing to invest in their career. Everybody has a different situation. I can see, however, how people would dislike the FO programs where people pay to work. That is completely different, now you are just paying to be a pilot, rather then paying to become a pilot.
Furthermore, If you pay for your own training, you are not obligated to any training contract (or a much smaller training contract), and therefore have the abilitiy to leave and look for other positions should the airline start going in the wrong direction. The 13-15,000 USD that is invested is easily recouped after a few months at a good airline.
I would think this forum is to help and gather advice from our fellow aviators, not to put people down for investing in their own future. Just my two cents.
+ Rate, Gear up!
CaptWUFF
Furthermore, If you pay for your own training, you are not obligated to any training contract (or a much smaller training contract), and therefore have the abilitiy to leave and look for other positions should the airline start going in the wrong direction. The 13-15,000 USD that is invested is easily recouped after a few months at a good airline.
I would think this forum is to help and gather advice from our fellow aviators, not to put people down for investing in their own future. Just my two cents.
+ Rate, Gear up!
CaptWUFF