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Hello everybody,
i'm new around here and i'm asking for your opinion concerning this matter:
In april i became 30. I've finished my atpl in april 2005. So far i got only 1 selection day without any result. 6 months ago i started to fly for a small company which provides touristic flights (single engine). I must say it is fun, and i don't have to pay to fly. Most of the time i fly VFR and every month i try to fly a few hours ifr. BUT I'm still asking myself if this really improves my chances to "go further", to get a final pilot job. It doesn't have to be a jet airliner, a turbo prop is ok for me, bizz jet even better and a jet airliner is ofcourse the best. I was even thinking to quit this 'job' because i don't see how this job can provide me the experience companies want. And besides i'm already 30years old (young).
So, what would you advice me to do? Quit or something else??
Every opinion, advice is welcome.
Thx a lot
i'm new around here and i'm asking for your opinion concerning this matter:
In april i became 30. I've finished my atpl in april 2005. So far i got only 1 selection day without any result. 6 months ago i started to fly for a small company which provides touristic flights (single engine). I must say it is fun, and i don't have to pay to fly. Most of the time i fly VFR and every month i try to fly a few hours ifr. BUT I'm still asking myself if this really improves my chances to "go further", to get a final pilot job. It doesn't have to be a jet airliner, a turbo prop is ok for me, bizz jet even better and a jet airliner is ofcourse the best. I was even thinking to quit this 'job' because i don't see how this job can provide me the experience companies want. And besides i'm already 30years old (young).
So, what would you advice me to do? Quit or something else??
Every opinion, advice is welcome.
Thx a lot
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Continuing to fly in a commercial environment has to improve your chances. If you’re not getting the breaks to desire, perhaps look at other ways of improving your appeal. For example, more persistent or more selective applying, networking, improved C.V, interview preparation course.
Whatever you do, giving up flying I feel would be a backwards step.The market is good at the moment, it will only be a matter of time for you I am sure, and probably when you least expect it.
Good luck
Flyfish
Whatever you do, giving up flying I feel would be a backwards step.The market is good at the moment, it will only be a matter of time for you I am sure, and probably when you least expect it.
Good luck
Flyfish
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Hi Inner,
I would have to agree with the previous posters, flying is flying. Being 30 is no real bar as you are already qualified and operating within a commercial environment - you are making commercial decisions on a daily basis and you ARE a proffesional pilot as you are employed as such.
If you are also hiring aircraft try and add multi-engine time. When I hit 100hrs multi I found that I was a little more interesting to the recruiters - times are good now so you will get something. Keep plugging away with the CV and make sure that it is top notch. If you are applying to operators unsolicited then make sure you use the correct contact details for the recruitment personnel. Tailor each letter to the individual operator and try and outline why you want to work for them. Finally finish your letter with a close asking for an interview. On all my letters I also said I would follow up with a phone call and I actually did. It worked but it is a fine line between that and stalking
I would not quit your job at all. Where do you operate out of?? If it is a busy place with regional operators, or bizjets, go and introduce yourself and ask for a look around their aircraft - if you are in uniform it would be fine. We had a chap do this the other day in EGHI (he was an instructor) and we had no probs in showing him around and providing him with info.
Keep a log of who you have applied too and what you wrote. State in your letter that you are gaining experience at a steady rate and that you would like to take the opportunity to keep them updated, say, every 3 months etc -from that make sure you have a good "round 2" letter for follow ups reaffirming your motivation for company X and highlighting how your experience has improved.
I also placed a photo on my CV - I am an ugly bastid
and many will say it is a bit controversial but I found a better response when I did this especially as I kept in touch with the operators and they could put a face to the name. All this worked and I now fly a Turboprop after being accepted with 275ish hrs and being Modular (OAT).
Good luck.
Pitch Back.
I would have to agree with the previous posters, flying is flying. Being 30 is no real bar as you are already qualified and operating within a commercial environment - you are making commercial decisions on a daily basis and you ARE a proffesional pilot as you are employed as such.
If you are also hiring aircraft try and add multi-engine time. When I hit 100hrs multi I found that I was a little more interesting to the recruiters - times are good now so you will get something. Keep plugging away with the CV and make sure that it is top notch. If you are applying to operators unsolicited then make sure you use the correct contact details for the recruitment personnel. Tailor each letter to the individual operator and try and outline why you want to work for them. Finally finish your letter with a close asking for an interview. On all my letters I also said I would follow up with a phone call and I actually did. It worked but it is a fine line between that and stalking
I would not quit your job at all. Where do you operate out of?? If it is a busy place with regional operators, or bizjets, go and introduce yourself and ask for a look around their aircraft - if you are in uniform it would be fine. We had a chap do this the other day in EGHI (he was an instructor) and we had no probs in showing him around and providing him with info.
Keep a log of who you have applied too and what you wrote. State in your letter that you are gaining experience at a steady rate and that you would like to take the opportunity to keep them updated, say, every 3 months etc -from that make sure you have a good "round 2" letter for follow ups reaffirming your motivation for company X and highlighting how your experience has improved.
I also placed a photo on my CV - I am an ugly bastid
and many will say it is a bit controversial but I found a better response when I did this especially as I kept in touch with the operators and they could put a face to the name. All this worked and I now fly a Turboprop after being accepted with 275ish hrs and being Modular (OAT).Good luck.
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Some hope...
I have just joined a Turbo-prop operator, two of my course mates are around their 50s.
One of them was a PPL instructor and the other was an aero-photographing pilot before joining the airline.
Keep flying!
One of them was a PPL instructor and the other was an aero-photographing pilot before joining the airline.
Keep flying!
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Originally Posted by inner
It doesn't have to be a jet airliner, a turbo prop is ok for me, bizz jet even better and a jet airliner is ofcourse the best.
I would target the TP operators first, they are your best hope for a first job.
