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Just a quick question to all of those who applied to the BACX scheme and have heard nothing; did you apply for the summer start or the winter start?
Its just that I seem to remember that you could choose on the top of the phase 1 application form which you would like. I chose the winter start.
It's my guess (or hope) that they are sending out all of the summer start results first as I've heard nothing.
Strange since, like a few of you out there, I feel that my BA answers were much better than my Thomson ones where I got through!
I suppose we'll soon see........
Its just that I seem to remember that you could choose on the top of the phase 1 application form which you would like. I chose the winter start.
It's my guess (or hope) that they are sending out all of the summer start results first as I've heard nothing.
Strange since, like a few of you out there, I feel that my BA answers were much better than my Thomson ones where I got through!
I suppose we'll soon see........
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Thats a very good suggestion!
I put down to start in August so that could well explain it. If the same people are assessing these questions, which they are, then i would have thought anybody who got through Thomsonfly would stand a very good chance of getting throught the BACX one.
No news is good news tho.
T
I put down to start in August so that could well explain it. If the same people are assessing these questions, which they are, then i would have thought anybody who got through Thomsonfly would stand a very good chance of getting throught the BACX one.
No news is good news tho.
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Hi guys
I applied to BACX and stated that I wanted an October start and I heard yesterday from them regarding Stage 3...however, i didnt apply to Thomsonfly...perhaps they are coordinating between the two with people that applied for both schemes and thus causing a delay?!!
good luck
I applied to BACX and stated that I wanted an October start and I heard yesterday from them regarding Stage 3...however, i didnt apply to Thomsonfly...perhaps they are coordinating between the two with people that applied for both schemes and thus causing a delay?!!
good luck
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I hope you're right EK4457, I applied for the later start too and still haven't heard anything.
I actually read both my answers to the Thomsonfly Scheme and the BACX Scheme yesterday, and must say without a doubt that the answers for the BACX are far superior, yes the entire 4 full pages!
Still hanging on to a thread of hope ...
Regards,
Niraj.
I actually read both my answers to the Thomsonfly Scheme and the BACX Scheme yesterday, and must say without a doubt that the answers for the BACX are far superior, yes the entire 4 full pages!
Still hanging on to a thread of hope ...
Regards,
Niraj.
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4 pages!! Are you taking the p*ss??
I thought the instructions were to be 'concise and to the point'
Nevertheless 4 pages is a good effort! Think my brain would have fried if I had written that much!
I thought the instructions were to be 'concise and to the point'
Nevertheless 4 pages is a good effort! Think my brain would have fried if I had written that much!
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The Thomsonfly application was three and a half pages - would have been longer if it didn't say "In no more than 250 words" or "Briefly" on some questions!
But you're right, I should cut down in future! Just too used to writing long essays I guess.
Niraj.
But you're right, I should cut down in future! Just too used to writing long essays I guess.
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Yeah I think it is a uni trait.... I remember dissertations having to be 'at least' x,000 words!
Or maybe its just cos I'm lazy that I didn't write as much
Good luck anyway, hope your Thomson interview goes well
GSB
Or maybe its just cos I'm lazy that I didn't write as much
Good luck anyway, hope your Thomson interview goes well
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well lads how did you get on the people that were on for phase 3 of the thomson fly.com this week mine is on fridasy so looking for any info you may have about the tests and interview cheers
lads
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Travnet,
I don't think people who have already undergone the tests nor Britannia themselves (who it appears are aware of this forum) would thank me for revealing the details of each and every test. However what I can say is that the the post made by Troydi containing the email received from Britannia is entirely correct, all those tests are conducted.
Best of luck,
Niraj.
I don't think people who have already undergone the tests nor Britannia themselves (who it appears are aware of this forum) would thank me for revealing the details of each and every test. However what I can say is that the the post made by Troydi containing the email received from Britannia is entirely correct, all those tests are conducted.
Best of luck,
Niraj.
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Hello all,
I too had testing this week with Thomson. It seemed to go quite well regarding the tests etc as all you can do is give it your best shot. However, the interview is causing me some concern as its impossible to judge what the person is thinking!
Fingers crossed that everyone is successful - 10 out of 32 in the end isnt bad odds really!
Good luck
I too had testing this week with Thomson. It seemed to go quite well regarding the tests etc as all you can do is give it your best shot. However, the interview is causing me some concern as its impossible to judge what the person is thinking!
Fingers crossed that everyone is successful - 10 out of 32 in the end isnt bad odds really!
Good luck
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Hey Guys,
had my selection today - seemed ok, better than I was expecting at any rate. Just keeping my fingers crossed now! 10 out of 32 is not bad odds. Just in case you were interested, about 170 people applied to start with.
had my selection today - seemed ok, better than I was expecting at any rate. Just keeping my fingers crossed now! 10 out of 32 is not bad odds. Just in case you were interested, about 170 people applied to start with.
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It changes everyday, we were told 90 people applied for the Thomsonfly scheme!!
I did have a BACX interview and stuff next week but i've been told that since the assesment is almost identical they have sufficient information to make a decision on me for both airlines. So i'm not going to be going now, which will save me on petrol.
I'll be slightly pieved if i don't get through either now because a second attempt at PILAPTS would have been good. Just interested how did everyone score on the deviation and trax?
Good luck everyone,
Taiguin
I did have a BACX interview and stuff next week but i've been told that since the assesment is almost identical they have sufficient information to make a decision on me for both airlines. So i'm not going to be going now, which will save me on petrol.
I'll be slightly pieved if i don't get through either now because a second attempt at PILAPTS would have been good. Just interested how did everyone score on the deviation and trax?
Good luck everyone,
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Very interesting Taiguin, I was a bit concerned about what they would do regarding applying for both schemes. It does raise the point that surely the top candidates will therefore be sucessful for both the schemes and if you failed the first one you are in slack alley and have no chance of redeeming yourself! Seems a bit unfair, particularly if nerves got the better of you in the interview.
Not so sure I want to divulge my test results at this stage!!
Well today is the last day for testing and the results get sent to Thomson, so fingers crossed they like what they see!!
Not so sure I want to divulge my test results at this stage!!
Well today is the last day for testing and the results get sent to Thomson, so fingers crossed they like what they see!!
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Hi all,
I got through to the BACX selection days....
But... the only week they're doing them is the week of my finals. D'oh!
Better luck next time I suppose.
All the best,
James
I got through to the BACX selection days....
But... the only week they're doing them is the week of my finals. D'oh!
Better luck next time I suppose.
All the best,
James
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So it's FTE doing the phase 3 stuff? Not the airline themselves?
Does anyone know when the airlines get involved? and if it's all being done by the same people, any idea why a person might pass for one campany yet fail for the alternative one?
Does anyone know when the airlines get involved? and if it's all being done by the same people, any idea why a person might pass for one campany yet fail for the alternative one?
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Well done jb5000 for getting through, i had the same problem like you though!! Nevermind there will be other options!
boeingboeing i can understand if you didn't wanna offer your results thats cool. Just wanted to get a feel for how everybody else performed on the test. I've done the CTC test and i think their PILAPT was harder. That could be true or perhaps i've just improved somewhat, had less nerves, and new what to expect.
I was told on the day that they didn't want to be in a situation where both Thomsonfly and BACX had the same 10 people offered to them. Since this would result in one airline or both loosing out to some extent. You can understand it from the point of view but still annoying if i don't get a second attempt if the first goes tits up.
Topcat if people are successfull at this stage they may be invited for an airline interview. Not sure if you applied but we did do a Thomsonfly personality test on the day and the other results speak for themselves. Therefore if Thomsonfly are happy then they may just say lets not interview them. Its all done by FTE up till this inteview tho. Suppose the airlines try and keep costs to a minimum.
Its nice to keep this thread active...
Taiguin
boeingboeing i can understand if you didn't wanna offer your results thats cool. Just wanted to get a feel for how everybody else performed on the test. I've done the CTC test and i think their PILAPT was harder. That could be true or perhaps i've just improved somewhat, had less nerves, and new what to expect.
I was told on the day that they didn't want to be in a situation where both Thomsonfly and BACX had the same 10 people offered to them. Since this would result in one airline or both loosing out to some extent. You can understand it from the point of view but still annoying if i don't get a second attempt if the first goes tits up.
Topcat if people are successfull at this stage they may be invited for an airline interview. Not sure if you applied but we did do a Thomsonfly personality test on the day and the other results speak for themselves. Therefore if Thomsonfly are happy then they may just say lets not interview them. Its all done by FTE up till this inteview tho. Suppose the airlines try and keep costs to a minimum.
Its nice to keep this thread active...
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As far as I am aware the airline get the results tonight and then select x amount for interviewing. In an ideal situation they would split all 32 down the middle and recommend each to a different airline for them to decide!!
Taiguin - I have also done the CTC tests, twice in fact! I feel like I have improved somewhat but you can never really tell. My scores for the trax and deviation indicator were good but did not improve with each go, remaining pretty constant! I am a little concerned because I believe what they look for is an improvement.
Great, keep this thread going!!
Taiguin - I have also done the CTC tests, twice in fact! I feel like I have improved somewhat but you can never really tell. My scores for the trax and deviation indicator were good but did not improve with each go, remaining pretty constant! I am a little concerned because I believe what they look for is an improvement.
Great, keep this thread going!!
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Hi guys!
I hope I can clear up this PILAPT thing. To the best of my knowledge there is PILAPT and there is PILAPT Plus. I believe CTC use PILAPT Plus (takes about an hour), whereas other organisations such as FTE use PILAPT. In PILAPT as you all know, there is the Deviation Indicator, Hands, Patterns and Trax. In PILAPT Plus, it is the same, except Concentration and Capacity are added on. You are also in PILAPT Plus required to do more than one test at a time.
From what I was told, Psychologists and the designers of PILAPT say that the tests examine your innate psychomotor abilities, and therefore you cannot improve your scores. I disagree, I think you can improve your scores, but then you might be trying to beat the game rather than demonstrating your natural abilities.
Boeingboeingboeing, you are correct in that they are looking to see an improvement in your scores. So it should not matter that your first score is say 5, as long as you can improve on that on the second and third attempts. What would worry them is if your score remained constantly low or decreased! Apparently a score of 10 on the Deviation Indicator is possible, but I have only reached 9. Trax is much easier I feel, 10 is within most people's reach.
I hope this sheds some more light on PILAPT.
Niraj.
I hope I can clear up this PILAPT thing. To the best of my knowledge there is PILAPT and there is PILAPT Plus. I believe CTC use PILAPT Plus (takes about an hour), whereas other organisations such as FTE use PILAPT. In PILAPT as you all know, there is the Deviation Indicator, Hands, Patterns and Trax. In PILAPT Plus, it is the same, except Concentration and Capacity are added on. You are also in PILAPT Plus required to do more than one test at a time.
From what I was told, Psychologists and the designers of PILAPT say that the tests examine your innate psychomotor abilities, and therefore you cannot improve your scores. I disagree, I think you can improve your scores, but then you might be trying to beat the game rather than demonstrating your natural abilities.
Boeingboeingboeing, you are correct in that they are looking to see an improvement in your scores. So it should not matter that your first score is say 5, as long as you can improve on that on the second and third attempts. What would worry them is if your score remained constantly low or decreased! Apparently a score of 10 on the Deviation Indicator is possible, but I have only reached 9. Trax is much easier I feel, 10 is within most people's reach.
I hope this sheds some more light on PILAPT.
Niraj.
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I got in the region of 6s and 7s I think for the deviation indicator, and I still passed the CTC aptitude selection.
If I remember right I got a 6, then improved to a 7, then back to 6 again!
Really not sure how this is all collated and marked to be honest!
If I remember right I got a 6, then improved to a 7, then back to 6 again!
Really not sure how this is all collated and marked to be honest!