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Old 16th Sep 2005, 17:56
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What a negative post this is turning into. Don't despair, for every guy here who has been knocked back there is a guy who has recently got a job. I know 4 min hours modular guys in last month who all got a job. Keep the chin up and keep plugging away. This is one company, there are many more out there. Keep the CV's going. And most importantly write a good cover letter as to why you suit this company. I have seen a few cover letters recently and the standard is pretty poor - they look just like the mail merges that the majority of them are. Put a lot of thought into it.

Keep it up!!!

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Old 16th Sep 2005, 19:39
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Again 100% with Mr Blue, seem's he and very few others are the only ones prepared to defend the status of modular students.

WB

And silverknapper, you evidently know a lot more folk than I do then.
ALL of my mates in flying are modular, and some have been finished a year, still no job, young guys,20's - 30's very switched on. Explain that one..because I, sure as eggs are eggs, can't!
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Old 16th Sep 2005, 19:48
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Thumbs down age?

Has anyone over 35 been called for interview? There is a strong rumour that this company is guilty of discrimination.
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Old 16th Sep 2005, 20:10
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Angel

I am very proud to say that i know 2 modular guys with minimum time who have jumped straight into the RHS of jets with a well known Irish low cost company..

for me modular Instructor 350hrs, no call from BA CE submitted on friday.

fingers crossed


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Old 17th Sep 2005, 00:55
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Wingbar

Of all the guys I trained with 5 out of 8 of us all with a min hour modular job. The rest are instructing and will no doubt soon have an even better job.. I also know a few mates who also have jobs. The key fact from them all is keep sending CVs.
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Old 17th Sep 2005, 07:53
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with respect to nomercy's question as to age discrimination... Whilst I'm sure that there is the standard 'experience commensurate with age' aspect being considered, I do know someone who is in his mid forties who has been contacted by BACX. In terms of experience he has approximately 2500hrs but no turbine time.
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Old 17th Sep 2005, 21:48
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Age???

Nomercy, suggest your rumour is wrong.
There has been a good mix of both age and background joining the company since recruitment began again last year.
The Dash course I was on was 75% modular and 25% over 35, and that seems pretty typical.
OK, some of the jet jobs have gone to folks coming straight out of the schools, but a lot have gone to guys and girls who have experience elsewhere, and at least BACX don't fleece those lucky enough to get a job for a type rating, and neither have they gone down the CTC "sorry sir, you're half way to seventy, now bugger off" route.
Sadly a lot of applications fall down on silly mistakes (spelling, grammar, etc.) and others on not actually answering the questions they are asking, so pay attention to detail and try to do the best you can, remember, you are competing with a lot of people.
Good luck to you all,
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Old 18th Sep 2005, 12:04
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If a person falls down on the application owing to a spelling mistake it is very sad - a complete tw@t who does not make a mistake might get through instead.

Yes you need to be capable of written communication as a pilot , but concise is the way (that means brief and comprehensive) and not a two hundred word novel.

There are far more important things to be considered which they do not seem to care about.

ps how do you spell brief - is it ie or ei.

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Old 18th Sep 2005, 13:27
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I agree with Nomercy 100%

Spelling and grammr are nothing to do with this lark, that's proven.

Oh look I spelled gremmor wrong (and again just then.) A bit strange then, how I still have my CPL/IR in my flightbag? Maybe there should be an new ATPL subject called English for pilots? We could then dispose of BACX's little literacy game,and focus on more relevant and important aspects of the form.

This industry... honestly......

WB

ps I have A* at english language and literature. So, before anybody comments. I'll set that little stall up, and mark up my prices!
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Old 18th Sep 2005, 17:05
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Whether we like it or not written essay type answers on application forms have always been a way of filtering out those selected for interview/assessment. BA always used to do it for their CEP scheme, CTC do it, and so do various other airlines I've been applying to. Just like the way some schemes only want those with a particular number of A levels or a degree or a personal recommendation or whatever, its simply a way of reducing the numbers to a more reasonable level.

Personally I like applications like the BACX one because it gives me a chance to tell the airline more about myself and why I think I am the pilot they want . Compare that to, for example, the Ryanair application form at CAE, which consists of little more than the number of hours you've got. I feel I'll struggle to get anywhere with that simply because I've no way of making myself stand out in my application from all the other 250 hour people (other than increasing my hours, obviously).

Anyway, however airlines choose to recruit is up to them - I started my training fully aware that there was a possibility I would never get an airline job and on that basis I see airlines advertising for low hour FO's as a good thing, not something to moan about.

PW

PS. I'm low hour modular and haven't heard anything back from BACX.
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Old 18th Sep 2005, 17:34
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I joined BACX some time ago. At that time there was no real essay stlye questions to complete. They seem to have adopted that BA style of recruitment (maybe at the request of BA!). I do agree that this is a way of filtering candidates for interview but not necessarily a good one.
I wish you all the best in the job hunting scene; but do not get too hung up if you do not get the call. You will just have to trust me on this one. There is a significant number of our pilot workforce serving their notice right now. There is a very good reason for this.
The industry is very bouyant now in terms of pilot recruitment (even for low hour pilots). You can afford to be picky.
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Old 19th Sep 2005, 14:40
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does anyone knows if the website is down or if they donīt accept any more applications?
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Old 23rd Sep 2005, 11:13
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Had my interview yesterday and had a call this morning inviting me for a sim check - if you could only see the size of the smile on my face now - i'm over the moon

For those others yet to have an interview, there are no real suprises. Usual style questions "What do you know about....", "Tell us about a time....", "What would you do if......". I wouldn't go as far as to say it was informal but I wasn't uncomfortable. Interviewers were a line FO and a manager.

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Old 24th Sep 2005, 20:05
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They seem to like keeping applications on file, you may get a call in the future.
For those who have done well and passed the sim ride, how long
are you swimming in the holding pool before being offerd a job?
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Old 25th Sep 2005, 09:25
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I joined BACX this year and was in the pool for 8 months, along with most of the people in my class.

Once your application is submitted it gets screened to ensure you meet all minimum requirements. From what I understand it then goes to the next process, which is the essay questions. It is the answers to those questions that gets you an interview.

Over 30 and Modular, like 70% of the people who started the same day I did.

Best of luck to you all.

M.
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Old 26th Sep 2005, 15:29
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Anyone know what profile(s) they use for the sim check? Understand it's an MD-11 sim at Cranebank.
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Old 26th Sep 2005, 15:50
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The sim would be the BAC 1-11 in cranebank
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Old 28th Sep 2005, 13:12
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Just to let you know, my application number is 1027!!!! Quite high!!??
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Old 28th Sep 2005, 13:57
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Just to let you know, my application number is 1027
Just out of curiousity how do you know this?
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Old 28th Sep 2005, 14:11
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October the 5TH is the closing date.
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