CitiExpress Recruitment
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Sue for what exactly? If an airline decides they only want Oxford cadets because they like the training setup there than that is entirely the choice of the airline. (Or FTE, or cabair etc.)
It's all about training risk. The airlines want to hire people with the least chance of failing. As the type rating course is an intensive course over a fairly short period of time they want to know how you'll cope.
Integrated courses are designed to get you from 0 to (frozen) ATPL in 15 months, give or take a few weeks. Modular, whilst still allowing you to do the same thing in the same timeframe, also allows you to spread it over a longer period of time to allow you to carry on working and live at home with the family.
So when faced with two similar people, one with the 15 month integrated course and one modular, say 2 1/2 to 3 years, who presents the lower risk for a short term intensive course? i.e. Who has done it before? For a zero hours applicant, you'd have to say the integrated. After a few hundred hours, that difference is irrelevant, hence the original mod + hours requirement.
It's all about risk. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just trying to explain some of the possible reasoning behind the int v mod train of thought. As always there are many exceptions and variances in the quality of candidates from both sides. At the very end of the long day (and even longer winded thread!) it comes down to supply and demand. Right now, they need pilots. As the pool of available pilots reduces so does the importance of how or where you trained. The only thing guaranteed is that if you don't apply you won't get the job!
Just concentrate on your own exams and flights, get your cv bang on and you'll be fine.
It's all about training risk. The airlines want to hire people with the least chance of failing. As the type rating course is an intensive course over a fairly short period of time they want to know how you'll cope.
Integrated courses are designed to get you from 0 to (frozen) ATPL in 15 months, give or take a few weeks. Modular, whilst still allowing you to do the same thing in the same timeframe, also allows you to spread it over a longer period of time to allow you to carry on working and live at home with the family.
So when faced with two similar people, one with the 15 month integrated course and one modular, say 2 1/2 to 3 years, who presents the lower risk for a short term intensive course? i.e. Who has done it before? For a zero hours applicant, you'd have to say the integrated. After a few hundred hours, that difference is irrelevant, hence the original mod + hours requirement.
It's all about risk. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just trying to explain some of the possible reasoning behind the int v mod train of thought. As always there are many exceptions and variances in the quality of candidates from both sides. At the very end of the long day (and even longer winded thread!) it comes down to supply and demand. Right now, they need pilots. As the pool of available pilots reduces so does the importance of how or where you trained. The only thing guaranteed is that if you don't apply you won't get the job!
Just concentrate on your own exams and flights, get your cv bang on and you'll be fine.
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Had the same prob as Dan with the order of the employment history so I wouldn't worry too much - I actually deleted it all and started it again as I thought it was me but it seems to decide which random order it wants them in all by itself! I intend to complete it and submit an email mentioning it to the name given at the start (Gavin Hill I think)
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
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OK, i know someone partially answered this already, but i need a bit more info... What exactly do they want listed when the ask for "Please List you performance examination passes"? Is that the scores for both M&B and Performance (JAR exams)?
Also... Since the closing date is Oct 5th, do you think there is an advantage in finishing the application early? I won't be done with my MCC for another couple of weeks (and thus I have no license number). Should I delay completing the application until that's done and I get my license?
Thanks!
Also... Since the closing date is Oct 5th, do you think there is an advantage in finishing the application early? I won't be done with my MCC for another couple of weeks (and thus I have no license number). Should I delay completing the application until that's done and I get my license?
Thanks!
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Congrats guys! I guess it answers my questions about whether they wait until all applications are in before calling people for interviews!
I am still trying to figure out what the answer should be to ""Please List you performance examination passes"?
Thanks!
I am still trying to figure out what the answer should be to ""Please List you performance examination passes"?
Thanks!
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Recent flying experience
Is anyone having trouble with this, I cannot get this part of the application to get of the red cross so I can submit it, although ive completed over 50 hours in past 12 months, any ideas??
Ive e-mailed the address given but no response
Thanks in advance
Carbon
Ive e-mailed the address given but no response
Thanks in advance
Carbon
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I didn't have that trouble with that section. But did with the personal details. Couldn't work it out so ended up deleting all of it and entering again.
Maybe that will work on your section.
Maybe that will work on your section.
