Global Aviation assessment Day ?
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Global aviation assessment day!
Received an email from global aviation this morning regarding their assessment days for their new type rating scheme. Noticed they had already conducted one last week. Was wandering if any one attended and what they thought of it.
Did you get much out of it?
What did each section comprise of?
They appear to have two or three of these assessment days a week at the moment, which really does seem like a lot. I'm very interested in any one who attended or is contemplating attending. Any info would be much appreciated.
But please guys, lets not turn this into a for and against topic on type ratings... it's already been done to death!
Did you get much out of it?
What did each section comprise of?
They appear to have two or three of these assessment days a week at the moment, which really does seem like a lot. I'm very interested in any one who attended or is contemplating attending. Any info would be much appreciated.
But please guys, lets not turn this into a for and against topic on type ratings... it's already been done to death!
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£850
They appear to have two or three of these assessment days a week at the moment, which really does seem like a lot.
I would want to hear in rather more detail about what happens after your 12 sectors before I parted with my £850.
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What do you think?
Hello,
I´m also considering to go to the assesment days, but listen carefully to that, I still in the flight school and I still need to finish my pa34 flight hours and the mcc course before I get my licence, so I e-mailed the cordinator of the assesment days and I told her that I was doing the mcc course so I do not have a licence and it will take some months, and she said I can still go through the selection process...
This make me think, if we pay L850, what they want is as much people as possible. And also, I think would be quite frustrated to attend to the selection, pay 850 and 2 hours later hear you are out.
What do you think guys?
See you in the sky
I´m also considering to go to the assesment days, but listen carefully to that, I still in the flight school and I still need to finish my pa34 flight hours and the mcc course before I get my licence, so I e-mailed the cordinator of the assesment days and I told her that I was doing the mcc course so I do not have a licence and it will take some months, and she said I can still go through the selection process...
This make me think, if we pay L850, what they want is as much people as possible. And also, I think would be quite frustrated to attend to the selection, pay 850 and 2 hours later hear you are out.
What do you think guys?
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To be honest Juez I don't know what you are talking about. What selection? With who? What's the deal?.......you pay money for a selection before you have the licence issued and then find you have failed for that very reason? Sounds like a scam but could you give us more detail? Perhaps it's not if you can attend before licence issue and get something sorted for when you finish..........has anyone done this? We can't tell if you don't give us more info.
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I made a mistake, this messege shoul have been posted in the 'Global aviation assesment' right below. The thing my friend, is that it´s a company offering 73 type rating and some hours in line,
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I made a mistake, this messege shoul have been posted in the 'Global aviation assesment' right below. The thing my friend, is that it´s a company offering 73 type rating and some hours in line,
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Not sure about this myself, would like to hear from someone who's been for selection.
Have got a date to go down, but am not overly convinced that it is going to be worthwhile, case of take your money and run. They are holding about 12 assesment days just for November and more in decemeber.
Cheers.
Have got a date to go down, but am not overly convinced that it is going to be worthwhile, case of take your money and run. They are holding about 12 assesment days just for November and more in decemeber.
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To answer your question, we have already held 3 Assessment Days to date, the next one being on Monday next week, which is already full. A number of candidates have been successful and are either already on a training course or shortly due to start one.
We do have quite a few Assessment Days scheduled prior to Christmas as we need to get sufficient candidates trained in preparation for job openings we have scheduled in the early part of next year. As you will appreciate, there is quite a lead time from start of a training course until completion of line training and becoming available to be placed with one of our airline customers.
juez
I’m somewhat disappointed to read your post and the implication that you make. Your email with a request to be allowed to attend an Assessment Day without having your licence issued was referred to me. You implied that you had already booked to do your MCC course but that you did not have your licence yet, because the Spanish “takes some weeks” to issue the paperwork, but that it was “coming soon”. You made no mention of the fact that you still need to complete your flying hours. One of the criteria for being invited to attend is that you are in possession of commercial licence. You intimated that yours was in the process of being issued. That is different to what you say in your post, where you say it will take some months!
Sadly, you have just ‘shot yourself in the foot’ because I have now reversed my original decision to allow you to attend on the basis that your licence is some months away and not just a question of awaiting for the paperwork to arrive. Once you have obtained your licence you may apply again, but next time you will be required to prove that you physically have a licence in your hand. I was only trying to be helpful, in your case!
Pilot Pete
I appreciate that your post asks for clarification, but PLEASE, before you burst into print and make statements such as, it ‘sounds like a scam’, get the facts first, then you can arrive at an educated and informed opinion. You can get more details from www.globalaviationsolutions.net
To answer your question, we have already held 3 Assessment Days to date, the next one being on Monday next week, which is already full. A number of candidates have been successful and are either already on a training course or shortly due to start one.
We do have quite a few Assessment Days scheduled prior to Christmas as we need to get sufficient candidates trained in preparation for job openings we have scheduled in the early part of next year. As you will appreciate, there is quite a lead time from start of a training course until completion of line training and becoming available to be placed with one of our airline customers.
juez
I’m somewhat disappointed to read your post and the implication that you make. Your email with a request to be allowed to attend an Assessment Day without having your licence issued was referred to me. You implied that you had already booked to do your MCC course but that you did not have your licence yet, because the Spanish “takes some weeks” to issue the paperwork, but that it was “coming soon”. You made no mention of the fact that you still need to complete your flying hours. One of the criteria for being invited to attend is that you are in possession of commercial licence. You intimated that yours was in the process of being issued. That is different to what you say in your post, where you say it will take some months!
Sadly, you have just ‘shot yourself in the foot’ because I have now reversed my original decision to allow you to attend on the basis that your licence is some months away and not just a question of awaiting for the paperwork to arrive. Once you have obtained your licence you may apply again, but next time you will be required to prove that you physically have a licence in your hand. I was only trying to be helpful, in your case!
Pilot Pete
I appreciate that your post asks for clarification, but PLEASE, before you burst into print and make statements such as, it ‘sounds like a scam’, get the facts first, then you can arrive at an educated and informed opinion. You can get more details from www.globalaviationsolutions.net
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You are right
Yes I have to wait and try to start my interviews when I have my licence, but I´m excited with the possibility of getting the 73 type rating and that´s why I tried to do things before I should do. So I will finish completly with the school, get my licence and then start applying, sorry If I said anything I shouldn´t but don´t take me too serious. Thank you
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Juez
No offence taken and I admire your ability to hold your hand up and apologise; it takes courage to do that.
You will be very welcome to apply when you have your licence.
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CH4
No offence taken and I admire your ability to hold your hand up and apologise; it takes courage to do that.
You will be very welcome to apply when you have your licence.
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Could you clarify here what you actually are offering? It looks on the website like another type rating course, with ‘real prospect of gainful employment’ as the hook.
How much money are you asking for the course? Who are pilots likely to be employed by?
Times are changing indeed..... and we're not necessarily still on the down-graph employment-prospects wise.....
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Could you clarify here what you actually are offering? It looks on the website like another type rating course, with ‘real prospect of gainful employment’ as the hook.
How much money are you asking for the course? Who are pilots likely to be employed by?
Times are changing indeed..... and we're not necessarily still on the down-graph employment-prospects wise.....
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Sorry Chuffer, not going to answer your questions here. If you want to know the information, then you can send in an application form and if you meet the criteria you will be given the information; just like everyone has done.
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you take time to address three people on here, including someone who is only asking a question in PP.
I am afraid that I agree with Pilot Pete here, it does sound like a scam. £850...for what? Assessment? Pull the other one! It does not in my opinion cost £850 to assess someone's suitability to fly a B737.
You then go on to say that you will not answer more questions on the subject on PPRUNE. That to me smacks of someone who is involved in a business, and is uncertain if they can justify the steep prices they are charging (sometimes) gullible wannabees and desperado's.
So come on, have a go at me like you did at PP. We are both Airline pilot's of the same vintage and I hasten to add.... both sometimes quite switched on (especially Pete). And I am not embarrassed to say that any wannabees should tread carefully here whilst spending £850.
What jobs can you offer? Ones that don't pay wages as well I think...... maybe I am wrong, but why don't you summon up the energy to answer the questions rather than flaming people on here?
Over to you........
you take time to address three people on here, including someone who is only asking a question in PP.
I am afraid that I agree with Pilot Pete here, it does sound like a scam. £850...for what? Assessment? Pull the other one! It does not in my opinion cost £850 to assess someone's suitability to fly a B737.
You then go on to say that you will not answer more questions on the subject on PPRUNE. That to me smacks of someone who is involved in a business, and is uncertain if they can justify the steep prices they are charging (sometimes) gullible wannabees and desperado's.
So come on, have a go at me like you did at PP. We are both Airline pilot's of the same vintage and I hasten to add.... both sometimes quite switched on (especially Pete). And I am not embarrassed to say that any wannabees should tread carefully here whilst spending £850.
What jobs can you offer? Ones that don't pay wages as well I think...... maybe I am wrong, but why don't you summon up the energy to answer the questions rather than flaming people on here?
Over to you........
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I think you will find that this post has been merged with another post. The post I replied to was a question asked by Juez, which appears here as the fourth post, hence my reply seeking some clarification. Read his post again, without the ones that appear before it (as his separate posting appeared) and see what you think it sounds like......there was no mention of anyone, let alone Global Aviation in that post and going on what he said it sounded like a scam to me...............as I said to him, we needed more info to make a judgement.
Hope this helps to clear up the stance I took.
Regards to you all at Global
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I think you will find that this post has been merged with another post. The post I replied to was a question asked by Juez, which appears here as the fourth post, hence my reply seeking some clarification. Read his post again, without the ones that appear before it (as his separate posting appeared) and see what you think it sounds like......there was no mention of anyone, let alone Global Aviation in that post and going on what he said it sounded like a scam to me...............as I said to him, we needed more info to make a judgement.
Hope this helps to clear up the stance I took.
Regards to you all at Global
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Pilot Pete,
As an outsider here but as someone who is considering a type rating, please allow me to point out to you that you told Juez and I quote 'I don't know what you are talking about'.
Thereafter you continued to describe something that you had already admitted you knew nothing about as a scam.
Would you consider your post to be read as educated or ignorance?
Amen
As an outsider here but as someone who is considering a type rating, please allow me to point out to you that you told Juez and I quote 'I don't know what you are talking about'.
Thereafter you continued to describe something that you had already admitted you knew nothing about as a scam.
Would you consider your post to be read as educated or ignorance?
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Thanks Tailscrape, ‘I have control’
Why did I enter this topic? Very simply because Juez’s post was incorrect and contained untruths that put the credibility of Global in jeopardy. I have addressed that issue and, very much to his credit, Juez has had the ‘balls’ to admit he was wrong and apologise. That guy goes up ‘leaps and bounds’ in my estimation. I hope he comes along again and when suitably qualified, passes the assessment. If he does, then I will do my utmost to ensure he gets a job. What a fine example in CRM terms. He is guilty, by his own admission of one thing; determination to get ahead of himself before he can. I cannot condemn him for that, but rather credit him for his enthusiasm.
Pilot Pete, however, jumped in with ‘two big feet’ and made assumptions before he gained the facts. I know who Pete is, and I know his background and his history. Pete is a man I respect and I am also aware of the ‘unpaid role’ he has assumed since he stopped flying and I also believe that he is well-intentioned. He made a mistake on this occasion by ‘putting mouth into gear, before engaging brain’. We are all prone to that as pilots, something that I was guilty of, on occasions as a pilot, which earned me a ‘ticking off’ from the TRE and quite rightly, when I did my recurrent checks in the simulator. I did not ‘flame’ Pete, as you put it, but reminded him that he cannot make a valued judgement on something before he obtains the facts that he admits are unavailable to him! Bit like evacuating the crew, before you shut the engines down on an RTO! We’ve all done it, in the heat of the moment, but the adage ‘sit on your hands, consider, then make a decision’, comes to mind. True of most pilots, especially me!
Whilst replying, I answered little bo’s questions; he is the innocent one here, who started the topic, so I used the opportunity to answer his reasonable questions. Notice that he said ‘But please guys, lets not turn this into a for and against topic on type ratings... it's already been done to death!’ Sadly, you chose to do so and if anyone questions why I say this, go do a search on the contents of your posts to date! Do you have an axe to grind?
Why won’t I answer some questions here? Well, you are one good reason why! No matter how truthfully we present a situation, people like you will take advantage and twist what we are saying to rubbish what we are doing. PPRune is a great place; I have been one of the most fervent supporters of it, as Danny will testify. It’s a great place to air some views as a pilot, but an awful place to try and genuinely promote a genuine business proposition. You prove that point!
I’m not sure of your vintage Tailscrape, but I guess you are probably of the same vintage as me, maybe a bit older from the sounds of it. I was a pilot, went through the same hardships, laid out heaps of money to get there and finally succeeded. If you would like to come and meet me, there’s an offer. We can either compare sizes of ‘willies’ or we can ‘shoot pistols at dawn’, or maybe, hopefully in this enlightened time we live in, we can have a sensible conversation and a nice cup of coffee. Your choice! Same invitation goes out to PP.
Regarding the cost of the assessment day, I’m not even going to get into that debate! You think I should fund the full flight sim cost, plus 2 TRE’s and all of the admin staff that is required to make it work? If you do, dream on chum! We are genuine and we do have job orders, so please think again before you flame me! The concept is, and I believe it is a genuine one; those that pass the assessment get credited in full the cost of the assessment. Those that fail have to pay. At the end of the day I believe that is fair. We want guys or gals to pass, but sadly not all will to pass straight onto a jet. We do have firm orders and we do place pilots. I’m just not prepared to enter into an endless discussion here, for the aforementioned reasons.
HC4
Pilot Pete, just seen your post, which verifies all I said about you! Come for that coffee!
Why did I enter this topic? Very simply because Juez’s post was incorrect and contained untruths that put the credibility of Global in jeopardy. I have addressed that issue and, very much to his credit, Juez has had the ‘balls’ to admit he was wrong and apologise. That guy goes up ‘leaps and bounds’ in my estimation. I hope he comes along again and when suitably qualified, passes the assessment. If he does, then I will do my utmost to ensure he gets a job. What a fine example in CRM terms. He is guilty, by his own admission of one thing; determination to get ahead of himself before he can. I cannot condemn him for that, but rather credit him for his enthusiasm.
Pilot Pete, however, jumped in with ‘two big feet’ and made assumptions before he gained the facts. I know who Pete is, and I know his background and his history. Pete is a man I respect and I am also aware of the ‘unpaid role’ he has assumed since he stopped flying and I also believe that he is well-intentioned. He made a mistake on this occasion by ‘putting mouth into gear, before engaging brain’. We are all prone to that as pilots, something that I was guilty of, on occasions as a pilot, which earned me a ‘ticking off’ from the TRE and quite rightly, when I did my recurrent checks in the simulator. I did not ‘flame’ Pete, as you put it, but reminded him that he cannot make a valued judgement on something before he obtains the facts that he admits are unavailable to him! Bit like evacuating the crew, before you shut the engines down on an RTO! We’ve all done it, in the heat of the moment, but the adage ‘sit on your hands, consider, then make a decision’, comes to mind. True of most pilots, especially me!
Whilst replying, I answered little bo’s questions; he is the innocent one here, who started the topic, so I used the opportunity to answer his reasonable questions. Notice that he said ‘But please guys, lets not turn this into a for and against topic on type ratings... it's already been done to death!’ Sadly, you chose to do so and if anyone questions why I say this, go do a search on the contents of your posts to date! Do you have an axe to grind?
Why won’t I answer some questions here? Well, you are one good reason why! No matter how truthfully we present a situation, people like you will take advantage and twist what we are saying to rubbish what we are doing. PPRune is a great place; I have been one of the most fervent supporters of it, as Danny will testify. It’s a great place to air some views as a pilot, but an awful place to try and genuinely promote a genuine business proposition. You prove that point!
I’m not sure of your vintage Tailscrape, but I guess you are probably of the same vintage as me, maybe a bit older from the sounds of it. I was a pilot, went through the same hardships, laid out heaps of money to get there and finally succeeded. If you would like to come and meet me, there’s an offer. We can either compare sizes of ‘willies’ or we can ‘shoot pistols at dawn’, or maybe, hopefully in this enlightened time we live in, we can have a sensible conversation and a nice cup of coffee. Your choice! Same invitation goes out to PP.
Regarding the cost of the assessment day, I’m not even going to get into that debate! You think I should fund the full flight sim cost, plus 2 TRE’s and all of the admin staff that is required to make it work? If you do, dream on chum! We are genuine and we do have job orders, so please think again before you flame me! The concept is, and I believe it is a genuine one; those that pass the assessment get credited in full the cost of the assessment. Those that fail have to pay. At the end of the day I believe that is fair. We want guys or gals to pass, but sadly not all will to pass straight onto a jet. We do have firm orders and we do place pilots. I’m just not prepared to enter into an endless discussion here, for the aforementioned reasons.
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Pilot Pete, just seen your post, which verifies all I said about you! Come for that coffee!
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lighten up and read what my last post said.
Juez posted an incoherent question AS A SEPARATE THREAD, which has since been merged with this thread. His original question, which was the FIRST post on that thread, started by him, appears as the fourth post in this thread, which I will repeat here;
I then, in a somewhat flippant tone, NOT ON THIS THREAD, replied asking just what was he on about. What he's written above, without the context which has since appeared in this merged thread could well have been a scam, just as it could well have been very useful........something else I pointed out in my reply.
So can we please dispense with the acusations that I have in any way accused Global Aviation of being a scam. I have not. At the time my reply was made there was no detail whatsover as to who was behind asking a Wannabe for £850 for an 'assessment' (for what?) when they didn't even have a licence issued. Now from what he posted, that sounded like a scam to me, but, I also pointed out it might be legit but we needed more info because I didn't have a clue as to what or who he was talking about.
So opsmaneurope,
I said it sounded like a scam, not that it was. If you are going to take shots get your facts right first and read all the replies before diving in. I was seeking further info and trying to point out to Juez that not many of us would probably have a clue what he was talking about! He then went on to admit that he had started a separate thread in error, when what he had meant to do was post a reply to this Global Aviation Assessment Day thread. Needless to say, he would not have got the same response from me if it had been on this thread in the first place!!!!!! Phew, I would delete my original post but I think I would just confuse myself and everyone else even more..............!
CH4, coffee would be great, but I'm not sure you do know me judging by your comment
????? I'm very much still flying and not sure about the role you think I now have. If your 'coffee' comment acknowledging my previous post was after posting your response, could I ask you to remove your comments about my 'two big feet' ‘putting mouth into gear, before engaging brain’ as I do feel that they are a little harsh given the actual events.
Enough said. Beer time.
PP
lighten up and read what my last post said.
Juez posted an incoherent question AS A SEPARATE THREAD, which has since been merged with this thread. His original question, which was the FIRST post on that thread, started by him, appears as the fourth post in this thread, which I will repeat here;
Hello, I´m also considering to go to the assesment days, but listen carefully to that, I still in the flight school and I still need to finish my pa34 flight hours and the mcc course before I get my licence, so I e-mailed the cordinator of the assesment days and I told her that I was doing the mcc course so I do not have a licence and it will take some months, and she said I can still go through the selection process...This make me think, if we pay L850, what they want is as much people as possible. And also, I think would be quite frustrated to attend to the selection, pay 850 and 2 hours later hear you are out.
What do you think guys?
See you in the sky
What do you think guys?
See you in the sky
So can we please dispense with the acusations that I have in any way accused Global Aviation of being a scam. I have not. At the time my reply was made there was no detail whatsover as to who was behind asking a Wannabe for £850 for an 'assessment' (for what?) when they didn't even have a licence issued. Now from what he posted, that sounded like a scam to me, but, I also pointed out it might be legit but we needed more info because I didn't have a clue as to what or who he was talking about.
So opsmaneurope,
I said it sounded like a scam, not that it was. If you are going to take shots get your facts right first and read all the replies before diving in. I was seeking further info and trying to point out to Juez that not many of us would probably have a clue what he was talking about! He then went on to admit that he had started a separate thread in error, when what he had meant to do was post a reply to this Global Aviation Assessment Day thread. Needless to say, he would not have got the same response from me if it had been on this thread in the first place!!!!!! Phew, I would delete my original post but I think I would just confuse myself and everyone else even more..............!
CH4, coffee would be great, but I'm not sure you do know me judging by your comment
‘unpaid role’ he has assumed since he stopped flying
Enough said. Beer time.
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LOL Pete
You are a nice guy, and I genuinely know who you are! I think we have said all that needs to be said here! Tailscape needs an injection of reality, imho, but thats a call he has to make!
Glad to hear you are piloting again....you desrve that! What happened to you was dispicable, imho
You are a nice guy, and I genuinely know who you are! I think we have said all that needs to be said here! Tailscape needs an injection of reality, imho, but thats a call he has to make!
Glad to hear you are piloting again....you desrve that! What happened to you was dispicable, imho
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Pilot Pete,
All you have said in your more recent post is making excuses for your previous post.
I am not about to enter into an immature argument with you, I am better than that, let others decide if you opened your gob before engaging your brain!
All you have said in your more recent post is making excuses for your previous post.
I am not about to enter into an immature argument with you, I am better than that, let others decide if you opened your gob before engaging your brain!