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Ooopps I mean FO4EVA,
I agree. But you have forgotten there was more pain for them to start with. What makes it fare that they shouldn’t get all there SLS back like everyone else?
Ooopps I mean FO4EVA,
I think it was more unfair that level D had to take more UPL in the first place....
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I think they realize that Captains are willing to take more ****t than FOs and SOs. After all, captains were happy to extend on lower conditions rather than uniting to prevent anybody to extend on lower terms.
At the end of the day, they did it because they can, simple as that. Cathay doesn't spend money unless they have to.
At the end of the day, they did it because they can, simple as that. Cathay doesn't spend money unless they have to.
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Tony The Great
It's wonderful to see Tony being an impressive leader, gaining respect from low level staff by showing them he can live on 90%.
What frustrates me is how our minions can't see the big picture (BBB-Blinded by BS). He and his Level E staff just get it all back and more in their bonuses they feed themselves for doing such an incredible job. So yeah. It will just be the Level D staff that are targeted.
Oh hail Tony The Great
What frustrates me is how our minions can't see the big picture (BBB-Blinded by BS). He and his Level E staff just get it all back and more in their bonuses they feed themselves for doing such an incredible job. So yeah. It will just be the Level D staff that are targeted.
Oh hail Tony The Great
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From SCMP
After an unexpected upswing in demand in the fourth quarter, the airline decided to halve the unpaid-leave period to two weeks. Senior management, including Pratt, chief executive Tony Tyler and chief operating officer John Slosar may also resume receiving bonuses in the 2009 financial year after the decision to suspend it in 2008 as long as shareholders give their approval in the annual meeting.
Thus mostly Cpt's take a hit..
What an insult. Don't lie down Guys lead by example and say no way!
Thus mostly Cpt's take a hit..
What an insult. Don't lie down Guys lead by example and say no way!
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I say Crews Unite, what is it exactly you want your colleagues to "say no way" to? If you were more specifie then they might rise-up like my share prices are doing....
As I see it Tony has already given 'us' shareholders great pleasure, he's such a cunning linguist, by screwing everybody but himself, the true sign of a wonderful manager!
Long live my dividend!
As I see it Tony has already given 'us' shareholders great pleasure, he's such a cunning linguist, by screwing everybody but himself, the true sign of a wonderful manager!
Long live my dividend!
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Big Picture
I think there are more level D's than pilots. Level D is supposed to be amanagement position, hence management take more pain than "minions" A supposed show of sacrifice from management. How can a capt (level D) be anti-company? He IS management.
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Big Picture indeed!
How can a capt (level D) be anti-company? He IS management.
Their outlook is just simply too short-term, which is NOT the outlook that the majority of the staff have. By attacking their staff, and whittling away not just our contracts, but also the product under the almighty umbrella of "cost cutting", they have greatly decreased the long-term value of the company. How is that in the interest of "shareholder value"?
Notice that the share price "fluctuates" between HK$12 & $19 (approx) normally, although in temporary crisis times such as SARS, & the GFC, it has been lower. Yet, strangely, some analysts believe that the true value is potentially $25 - $30, based on the fundamentals etc etc etc.
Why then hasn't the market driven it to $25? What is scaring potential investors from forking out the big $$ for stock code 293? (rhetorical question)
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CXshareholder ur (our) dividend SUCKS 10cents pls
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Staff and shareholders are been ripped off big time by these swine managers. Why do u think Citic has been so egger to get out for such a long time..
You'll see they will get the price moderate for a while then drive it up to $20 then crash it back to $10 (given the right economic conditions & timings)
Depreciation ( new planes & Cargo building) & Paying for maintenance are not cheap when in years of good profits.. etc..
This company is IMMORAL just like the many others days..
Team work? right!
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Staff and shareholders are been ripped off big time by these swine managers. Why do u think Citic has been so egger to get out for such a long time..
You'll see they will get the price moderate for a while then drive it up to $20 then crash it back to $10 (given the right economic conditions & timings)
Depreciation ( new planes & Cargo building) & Paying for maintenance are not cheap when in years of good profits.. etc..
This company is IMMORAL just like the many others days..
Team work? right!
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thankyou for the very considered and eloquent response - but it didn't answer the question:
I note that my share's values are still rising, I'm also noticing that there is an interesting relationship here. As the share price continues to go up, the small round furry things of those unwilling to "say no way" seem to continue to shrink, unlike the FAU. But then again the FAU don't need balls, they've got nails!
Anyway must go, TT is bout to orate and I need to get the mink-mitten ready..........nurse!
thankyou for the very considered and eloquent response - but it didn't answer the question:
what is it exactly you want your colleagues to "say no way" to?
Anyway must go, TT is bout to orate and I need to get the mink-mitten ready..........nurse!
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cxlinedriver....just what thought processes go through your head that lead you to believe that a medically fit professional Captain who...god forbid actually quite likes his job and the people he fly's with, and who suddenly has been given the opportunity (as I might add have you) to extend his career by several more years, with all the personal, and of course financial reward that it brings, should stand aside 10 years before almost every other pilot in our profession now has to, just so you can get the command in exactly the time it was suggested it might take when you joined?.......just get real ...things change ...and because they do, you might also be able to work that little bit longer if you can, and you wish to...or will you graciously step down at 55 because thats what was in your contract when you joined...
....by the way I'm a 10 year F/O and not a Captain even though they said it would be about 8 years to command when I joined.
....by the way I'm a 10 year F/O and not a Captain even though they said it would be about 8 years to command when I joined.