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Old 19th Mar 2008, 11:05
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Being instructed by your potential examiner

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I have a question about being instructed by your potential examiner. I have always thought that if you where to be instructed by an examiner then that examiner could not conduct your flying exam. I want to find out if that just applies to actual aircraft hours or sim time aswell. My situation is that I have done a couple of hours FNPT 2 for the IR with this examiner already. Does that rule this examiner out or does it just apply to actual aircraft hours. I am a bit confused as the FNPT 2 time is officially counted toward the IR.

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Old 19th Mar 2008, 20:31
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how are you doing course time with an IR examiner. I wouldn't have thought any of the CAA staff examiners would be allowed to instruct at an FTO.
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JAR-FCL 1.030 (d) Examiners shall not test applicants to whom flight instruction has been given by them for the licence or rating except with the expressed consent in writing of the Authority.

I think that you can take flight instruction to mean any of the instruction on an approved course be it in an aeroplane or a STD.


It is not likely that you will be given instruction for an IR by an examiner who would qualify to take the initial IR Skill Test.
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Old 21st Mar 2008, 14:04
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However it does specify later, that the examiner may provide stage checks.

I think this is generally interpreted as a Pre-Solo check, pre first navigation check etc.

A flight where the examiner is providing mainly assesment rather than instruction.
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I agree with Whopity -it's extremely unlikely you'd be instructed by a CAA staff examiner who was authorised to do your initial IR skills test.

Couple of thoughts

- if the instructor is a 170A signatory (ie doing your 170 pre-test flight rather than the actual IRT) then receiving instruction from him is perfectly ok; the 170A flight isn't an 'exam' in JARspeak.

- if you're doing a renewal or revalidation of an IR then you can receive instruction from the examiner prior to the proficiency check (although some examiners prefer you to do training with someone else)
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The only place it could happen is in Scotland.......

Don't worry about it. Its really not your problem. Let the examiner deal with it.
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