comparison between military and civilian aircraft ops
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Your RAF background is relevant and will no doubt get you into civilian aviation. As someone who has been recruiting Ops staff for many years I can tell you that, I for one, do indeed look for some qualification in Airline flight ops studies. The FAA Licence is a good one to do, however I would also recommend the C&G advanced Ops /Dispatch course which you should be able to do without having the Aviation Studies course before it, although if you have 3 years you may wish to do both or indeed all three.
Whatever course you do the basis of it should be close to the ICAO Flight Operations Officers Licence.
The more insight you have into civilian aviation the better.
Your RAF background is relevant and will no doubt get you into civilian aviation. As someone who has been recruiting Ops staff for many years I can tell you that, I for one, do indeed look for some qualification in Airline flight ops studies. The FAA Licence is a good one to do, however I would also recommend the C&G advanced Ops /Dispatch course which you should be able to do without having the Aviation Studies course before it, although if you have 3 years you may wish to do both or indeed all three.
Whatever course you do the basis of it should be close to the ICAO Flight Operations Officers Licence.
The more insight you have into civilian aviation the better.
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Thanks no sig. I'm assuming that the C&Gs you mention are all part of the aviation studies course, however I've never heard of the ICAO Flight Operations Officers Qualification. Any help on where to go would be useful. Over the last couple of years the RAF approached a college to create an NVQ in Aviation, mainly geared up at RAF types. The idea it seems was to encourage RAF AATCs and Flight Operations staff to gain a civilian qualification, however there have been a lot of problems. The RAF created the NVQ for the RAF resulting in a very poor take up, we're a suspicious bunch and are very aware of the differences between our and your type of operation, furthermore the college recently threatened to discontinue the NVQ due to lack of interest, implying that the only market target is the RAF, any ideas? I personally have grave reservations about wasting my energy on an NVQ of questionable value.
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The Ops NVQ has never really taken off ( no pun intended) ground handling NVQ has to a certain degree. The City and Guilds 728/7282 course, if I have the numbers right, have been around long time and are about as close as you get in the UK to the ICAO Flight Operations Officers Licence. The ICAO course is an outline that ICAO states should hold as minimum qualification where, and this is important, the state considers the need for a formal FOO accreditation, the UK do not. Bolton Street College in Dublin do the ICAO FOO course.
In the UK the C&G Ops/Dispatch course is a near equivalent but is not a licence as such. The FAA where valuable is very US biased, as you would expect and misses essential European content.
AVTECH and Redhill College Surrey do correspondence course for the C&G exams which are held in June and December.
The Ops NVQ has never really taken off ( no pun intended) ground handling NVQ has to a certain degree. The City and Guilds 728/7282 course, if I have the numbers right, have been around long time and are about as close as you get in the UK to the ICAO Flight Operations Officers Licence. The ICAO course is an outline that ICAO states should hold as minimum qualification where, and this is important, the state considers the need for a formal FOO accreditation, the UK do not. Bolton Street College in Dublin do the ICAO FOO course.
In the UK the C&G Ops/Dispatch course is a near equivalent but is not a licence as such. The FAA where valuable is very US biased, as you would expect and misses essential European content.
AVTECH and Redhill College Surrey do correspondence course for the C&G exams which are held in June and December.
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If you know your stuff (SNCO if you don’t then who does) you will have no problems getting started. It might take you a few months to find your feet but you will be surprised how similar it all is.
Top Tip don’t apply until you are on your termination leave as nobody wants to wait for you, they will interview you and expect you to be in accommodation nearby and ready to start within a month or so but don’t panic their is definitely lots of work out here…
PS….. get a job at Northolt then all the GA operators will love you cos you will get the best runway slots.
Good luck O&B
Top Tip don’t apply until you are on your termination leave as nobody wants to wait for you, they will interview you and expect you to be in accommodation nearby and ready to start within a month or so but don’t panic their is definitely lots of work out here…
PS….. get a job at Northolt then all the GA operators will love you cos you will get the best runway slots.
Good luck O&B
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As I said in my last post I left in the last big push in the 80's, I got a job offer and I went to Handbrake House and asked for early release using all my annual leave as I had just started a new leave year and terminal leave with a supporting letter from my Boss. Was getting two paychecks for 6 months...
Any way good luck for the future, don't get many dets to the Deathstar!!!
BRGDS
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Any way good luck for the future, don't get many dets to the Deathstar!!!
BRGDS
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Oi Jumpseater / Ghost-rider / BIG E or XTC2000, surely at least one of you could make a comment here?? Its really asking for it, BUT i'm not risking a twanking by saying anything....
What can ex-mil staff bring to our civil airline......you may continue.....
Brummie
What can ex-mil staff bring to our civil airline......you may continue.....
Brummie
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Milops.
I am in my last 4 months awaiting demob and trying to get a proper job. If you want info on the C+G course give me a ring in the base ops room at the "Wokka" base in Hants this weekend.
vp8 gis a job after flying in the back of one of your heavies telling them where to go would be a pleasure..
Helis do it slow ans low
I am in my last 4 months awaiting demob and trying to get a proper job. If you want info on the C+G course give me a ring in the base ops room at the "Wokka" base in Hants this weekend.
vp8 gis a job after flying in the back of one of your heavies telling them where to go would be a pleasure..
Helis do it slow ans low
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Ref gisajob
If you send CV c/o
Christopher Fairchild
Air Foyle Ltd
Halcyon House
Luton
BEDS
LU2 9LU
or fax
01582-405850
they are definately on the lookout for an Operations Planning Officer circa £21k and £700 PA bonus.. flight managers are not reqd at mo due influx from Heavylift...
Good Luck in the future
BRGDS
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[This message has been edited by VP8 (edited 16 March 2001).]
Ref gisajob
If you send CV c/o
Christopher Fairchild
Air Foyle Ltd
Halcyon House
Luton
BEDS
LU2 9LU
or fax
01582-405850
they are definately on the lookout for an Operations Planning Officer circa £21k and £700 PA bonus.. flight managers are not reqd at mo due influx from Heavylift...
Good Luck in the future
BRGDS
VP8
[This message has been edited by VP8 (edited 16 March 2001).]
