Unknown PNG Airstrips?
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Do you want to lock into the Lae Dero?
For a years supply of SP Green?
Chimbu
Sure was Mendi M acair 206 in photty at the end of the park.
Flown at the time by one of the infamous avaition twins.
nooo yur first guess is wrong
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Sure was Mendi M acair 206 in photty at the end of the park.
Flown at the time by one of the infamous avaition twins.
nooo yur first guess is wrong
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About those wrecks, Chuck...
Hey mate, you were wondering about the Zero and Betty at Rabaul? Here's the bad news. No, the Zero didn't fare any better I'm sad to say. And here's another Betty bomber, near Rabaul. Oh, and if yer interested, here's a view of a Val at the Kokopo scrap yard ... errm ... museum... 
And here's a couple of wrecks that I found at Gasmata around 1985. The bad news just keep rolling in eh!
And here's a couple of wrecks that I found at Gasmata around 1985. The bad news just keep rolling in eh!
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I am frantically searching for an album I have photos of Roy Woosters(The Momet) collection of Jap wrecks in Wewak in the 70's.
I believe most of this stuff ended up in Kermit Weeks collection.
There were Jap fighters there with the correct AIR pressure in their tyres!
Shiny brass ammo belts you could jack a round in MG and spray away.
I believe most of this stuff ended up in Kermit Weeks collection.
There were Jap fighters there with the correct AIR pressure in their tyres!
Shiny brass ammo belts you could jack a round in MG and spray away.
Must admit Capt Vegemite it was not too difficult.
I had 3 years running the place after the committee voted to close it down due lack of patronage.
We petitioned for a extrordinary meeting, succeeded, threw out the committee, elected a new one, did the place up and commenced to party.
Regulary saw 50 at the moovies and barby each week, up to 200 at our monthly "disco" (our excuse for a massive pissup) and the regular haunt for all associated with aviation during the week.
Many Talair pilots got there nicknames there.
Also the place for Talair flyins.
Ah the memories....and the hangovers.
I had 3 years running the place after the committee voted to close it down due lack of patronage.
We petitioned for a extrordinary meeting, succeeded, threw out the committee, elected a new one, did the place up and commenced to party.
Regulary saw 50 at the moovies and barby each week, up to 200 at our monthly "disco" (our excuse for a massive pissup) and the regular haunt for all associated with aviation during the week.
Many Talair pilots got there nicknames there.
Also the place for Talair flyins.
Ah the memories....and the hangovers.
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Good onya pal you the only one to pick it.
Which may say something about those who do and dont proon.
I go back to the days when it was a regular haunt for M acair Crowleys and TAA types
Junior The Mad hadnt moved into Morobe at that stage
A years supply of virtual SP Brown on its way....enjoy!
Good onya pal you the only one to pick it.
Which may say something about those who do and dont proon.
I go back to the days when it was a regular haunt for M acair Crowleys and TAA types
Junior The Mad hadnt moved into Morobe at that stage
A years supply of virtual SP Brown on its way....enjoy!
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Tabibuga was the location of theScotty and Tyler trade store a more lovable pair of rogues you would be hard pressed to find.
Scotty can be found at Caboolture these days I believe and Tyler was/is in Fiji.
Anyone know where Jo Bamba got to?
Tabibuga was the location of theScotty and Tyler trade store a more lovable pair of rogues you would be hard pressed to find.
Scotty can be found at Caboolture these days I believe and Tyler was/is in Fiji.
Anyone know where Jo Bamba got to?
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Oz the 'Val' at kokopo is, I'm reasonably sure, a Zero. That's a Betty in the background at Gasmata and while I can't remember the allied code name for the little twin engined fighter in the foreground I believe it was a Japanese 'version' of a Mosquito.
Not Obura hey Veg..........well I'm farkin certain it aint Omkali Keglsugl is a bloody good guess too.........didn't even enter my head before for some reason.............so.........ya gunna tell us?
Chuckles
Not Obura hey Veg..........well I'm farkin certain it aint Omkali
Keglsugl is a bloody good guess too.........didn't even enter my head before for some reason.............so.........ya gunna tell us?Chuckles
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Nooo not Keglsugl usda fly in an outa there in a Baron.
Fall off end of strip with no inches a power and fall into the river valley down to Chimbu.
Think they stop folk flyin twins in there about 10 year before you arrived
Was Keg about 8000'amsl?
Was a coupla 185 end up in the undershoot area there in my day.
One a the guys climbed outa the wreckage in the trees ,said thank fark for that, lit a cigarette and the wreckage fell on him!
I think he took up a career as a pavement artist in Kings Cross but I could be mistaken.
Nooo not Keglsugl usda fly in an outa there in a Baron.
Fall off end of strip with no inches a power and fall into the river valley down to Chimbu.
Think they stop folk flyin twins in there about 10 year before you arrived
Was Keg about 8000'amsl?
Was a coupla 185 end up in the undershoot area there in my day.
One a the guys climbed outa the wreckage in the trees ,said thank fark for that, lit a cigarette and the wreckage fell on him!
I think he took up a career as a pavement artist in Kings Cross but I could be mistaken.
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Keglsugl is open........with no restrictions on Twins (don't know i'd take a baron in there......not since I grew up anyway)..........took off from there once in a C185 (empty) and, just for a lark, attempted to glide to Chimbu
Flew down the Chimbu Gorge in the dark one evening leading a NSCA Kingair in from Goroka valley to help a badly hurt young expat bloke, whose parents subsequently turned off the machine when they got him south the next day.
Shoulda seen the look on the faces of the Kingair pilots next morning when they saw all the mountains in broad daylight
They said i was nuts
"Well you followed me in here!"
Chuckles.
)..........took off from there once in a C185 (empty) and, just for a lark, attempted to glide to ChimbuFlew down the Chimbu Gorge in the dark one evening leading a NSCA Kingair in from Goroka valley to help a badly hurt young expat bloke, whose parents subsequently turned off the machine when they got him south the next day.
Shoulda seen the look on the faces of the Kingair pilots next morning when they saw all the mountains in broad daylight
They said i was nuts
"Well you followed me in here!"
Chuckles.
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Cap'n Veg,
Just enhanced the slide with PhotoSuite; nope, not Keglsugl, apologies. Think I'll have to bow out if it's outside the EHD or Chimbu Districts. The date is right, but my experience too narrow.
If another guess is allowed, I'd put it in the Jimi Valley; say Kol?
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Just enhanced the slide with PhotoSuite; nope, not Keglsugl, apologies. Think I'll have to bow out if it's outside the EHD or Chimbu Districts. The date is right, but my experience too narrow.
If another guess is allowed, I'd put it in the Jimi Valley; say Kol?
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If you'd suggested to Wise Guy or Max that you'd take a Baron into KEG in my day, Junior would have bought you a ticket South!
****** operated an A36 Bonanza in there in competition with our single Cessna's; didn't stand a chance! Watched from above as it fell off the end one day into the creek. Bloke flying {BD} was an ex-aggie and I thought he was simply low flying. When I got back to Kundiawa he was white as a sheet! Had gone through the kunai with the stall warning blaring and was only saved by the creek falling away under him as the wing dropped!
Great blast down the river looking up at the station, though.
G'day
****** operated an A36 Bonanza in there in competition with our single Cessna's; didn't stand a chance! Watched from above as it fell off the end one day into the creek. Bloke flying {BD} was an ex-aggie and I thought he was simply low flying. When I got back to Kundiawa he was white as a sheet! Had gone through the kunai with the stall warning blaring and was only saved by the creek falling away under him as the wing dropped!
Great blast down the river looking up at the station, though.
G'day
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Chuck... first up, I thought it was a Zero too. But then I realised not too many Zeroes equipped with a tailgunner in the cockpit. I'm open to correction tho. 
Grandpa Aerotart
Umm........what rear cockpit, all I see is canopy frame work.....and the tubes where the machine guns poked out from the cockpit....and where someone has hacked away the fuselage in front of the instrument panel(or where it was) to get the guns out...and where the barrels of the wing guns poked out.......still think it's a Zero
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Ya might be right after all Chuck but here's a comparison drawing of a real Val dive bomber that I picked off the Web. Not a good view but the best I could come up with on short notice. I'm sure that I still see the makings of a rear cockpit on the pic from the Kokopo grave yard.
Guess I'll just havta go back there one day, if the wreck hasn't deteriorated too much further...
Editted because the thought has just struck me that the Val had a "gull wing" and I don't see any evidence of that in the photo of the wreck. The other thing is about the Japanese version of the Mosquito ... about 3 contenders for that :
Kawasaki "Nick" 1941 - 1945;
Nakajima "Irving" 1943 - 1945; and
Kawasaki "Randy" 1944 - 1945.
I suspect perhaps a "Nick"?
Guess I'll just havta go back there one day, if the wreck hasn't deteriorated too much further...
Editted because the thought has just struck me that the Val had a "gull wing" and I don't see any evidence of that in the photo of the wreck. The other thing is about the Japanese version of the Mosquito ... about 3 contenders for that :
Kawasaki "Nick" 1941 - 1945;
Nakajima "Irving" 1943 - 1945; and
Kawasaki "Randy" 1944 - 1945.
I suspect perhaps a "Nick"?
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If ya look real careful like you'll note the following;
1/. There is no rudder fillet......it just goes straight into the verticle stab
2/. Under the left wing you can see what's left of retractable undercarriage.......albeit bent outwards.
3/. At the rear of the cockpit there is the frame the pilots headrest was on and over that what's left of a canopy bow and right behind it the rear canopy framework......Japs are little but not THAT little.
I think it's a Zero for all the above reasons.........and I've been to Kokopo too
Chuckles
1/. There is no rudder fillet......it just goes straight into the verticle stab
2/. Under the left wing you can see what's left of retractable undercarriage.......albeit bent outwards.
3/. At the rear of the cockpit there is the frame the pilots headrest was on and over that what's left of a canopy bow and right behind it the rear canopy framework......Japs are little but not THAT little.
I think it's a Zero for all the above reasons.........and I've been to Kokopo too
Chuckles
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While you were busy posting Chuck, I was busy editting my previous post. I think maybeI'll agree with you now ... like I said in earlier post, my first thought was a Zero and I shooda stuck with that. Booze has addled the brain since me visit there, back in 1991!
... like I said in earlier post, my first thought was a Zero and I shooda stuck with that. Booze has addled the brain since me visit there, back in 1991!