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Old 19th Nov 2001, 12:24
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We are currently paying $1.10 per litre for 100ll at Coffs Harbour, just wondering what the prices are else where ?
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97.4 CPL @ BK with Shell about 2 weeks ago.
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$1.20 in Leonora.........bloody thiefs
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It certainly doesn't seem to have anything to do with the world oil price. Apart from a slight decrease this month, it's gone up an average of two cents a litre for the last 15 months... the October price hike was one of the biggest of all despite the petrol prices going down at the time. I guess next month the excuse about the Northern Hemisphere Winter will be trotted out again.
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And on a similar vein but non aviation related, why does the price of motor vehicle fuel - gasoline, diesel and LPG rise 17 cents to 19 cents per liter when one crosses from Queensland into New South Wales, when the NSW State Tax is only 10 cents per liter?

LPG in Brisbane is currently 44 cents per liter - those PPRuNers in NSW may care to compare.....

Seems there are also financial benefits to living in Queensland, aside from the beautiful people and wonderful state.

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Air Ace, it used to be only 10cpl. It's just to let you know that "you are now leaving paradise", but seriously - welcome to NSW, the highest taxed (per capita) state in Australia (so I'm told).

At least in Qld the State Gov tends to support its emergency services (and volunteer organisations) with a lot more moolah than do Oz's other states.

LPG - the servo nearest me today, 45.9 cpl.
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Having been a refueler(in a remote area) for a while I can tell you that the bowser prices for avgas and jet are just as much of a mystery to the people filling your tanks as you guys(and girls).
Our prices were set in Melbourne ( I think)and beamed to us via computer modem so we would get to work and find the price had gone up or in some cases down(don't laugh this sometimes happens) overnite with no explanation. We in the whole time I worked refuelling never once altered the bowser price and the only time we were able to alter any thing at all was if the power failed. I dont know what its like at big airports (a bl@@dy site busier I suspect!!!!????) but just remember like a lot of things in life what you see is not nessecarily the whole picture and the bloke or woman at the end of the hose is probably as much in the dark as you.
I do know there is a frieght component so in remote areas fuel is always going to cost more.The tax system on Aviation fuel is probably also different too, but how they figure it out overall is and will no doubt remain one of life's greater mysteries.


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We purchase Jet A1 from a number of ports on the east coast. The following are rounded prices per litre (six monthly intervals)during the past three years!
July 99 - .39
December 99 - .47
July 00 - .59
December 00 - .75
July 01 - .65

Fuel prices comprise a little over fifty percent of our DOC's. Scheduled maintenance thirty percent and enroute charges/landing fees around seventeen percent.

Although crude oil prices have dropped, the Australian dollar has also fallen some twenty-five percent against the USD during the past three years. There lies the problem!
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About a buckeroony here, but we are closer to the big smoke than the Wiz
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I don't think we can blame the dollar. A few moth ago I paid $1.07 for MOGAS and $1.01 for AVGAS. Now it's $0.988 for AVGAS and $0.74 for MOGAS. Why has MOGAS come back 33 cents and AVGAS 2.2 cents, bought with the same AUS dollar? Me thinks, something else is going on. Perhaps they need to pay for the fuel contamination.
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Off the original topic but to answer a question posted about why fuel is cheaper in QLD than in NSW I believe we all pay an excess on our rego which goes to the state gov. providing some tax relief of some sort which brings down the price by at least 5 cents per litre. As a matter of interest to compare we're paying about 70-73 cents a litre for Unleaded in Bris this week.
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Puff .... that makes it worse because NSW rego is more expensive than Queensland, as is CTP. The only thing I saw at gas stations that was reducing was Hot Dogs! Must be a price war. Started at $2.30 at the Border and down to $1.00 on the central coast.
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Unlike other states and territories, Queensland does not impose a state fuel tax. Prior to 1997 fuel taxes were recovered at State and Territory level (except for Queensland). Following a 1997 high court decision invalidating NSW tobacco taxes (and casting doubt on the legitimacy of state fuel taxes), the Federal government increased fuel excise and returned the revenue to the states. Since the excise applied to Queenslanders, who formerly were not taxed, the Queensland Government introduced the Fuel Subsidy Act of 1997 returning the excise received from the Federal government to the consumers. We therefore get it back at the pump which means Queensland petrol prices should be about ten per cent lower than other states.
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dragchute.....Fuel Prices were some USD$37.00/barrell when the AUD$ was @ .49/.50.....The AUD$ is now bounding around the .51/.52 mark, and the Price per barrell has dropped to USD$19.50, yet I've not seen any substantial drop in the price at the pump, either mogas or avgas.....The AUD$ in June of '99 was around the .65/.68 mark, a reduction as you say of approx 25%, but apart from that, at todays rates, the price of both mogas & avgas should be substantially cheaper.
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nasa,

If you are suggesting that the oil companies are screwing us you are probably correct. RACQ advised today that Brisbane petrol prices were only three or four cents cheaper than Sydney instead of ten cents after the subsidy! Petrol prices in country centres were closer to Brisbane prices. Seems like some manipulation happening.

I would imagine that if the oil companies found we readily accepted the hike a few months ago, then we will probably not winge too much if they don't come down to '99 prices!
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