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Thankyou, Skybird for putting the record straight. Interesting, isn't it, how quick some of you are to believe the newspapers when it suits your prejudices, yet how loudly you condemn them when your patch is publicly wronged.
As usual, the Daily Mail, Sky and others have put two and two together and made 17
. Shame more of you can't retain your usual scepticism of the press.
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As usual, the Daily Mail, Sky and others have put two and two together and made 17
. Shame more of you can't retain your usual scepticism of the press.Scroggs
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I've been warning you for ages about Sir Dick. Anyone who tells staff to give him a pash on the way out of a christmas party or they can't leave is a very very lose cannon.
How about Sir Dick canceling her return ticket and banning her like we did at QF & BA.
How about Sir Dick canceling her return ticket and banning her like we did at QF & BA.
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Sentencing her (allegedly) to four return first class tickets with Virgin? The mans a sadist!
Surely a good lawyer should have got her off with only two for a first offence.
Sorry Virgin mates, but that is the way the laughing pullover makes your upper class appear to the public. My condolences to the crew who had to deal with this girl's tantrums.
Surely a good lawyer should have got her off with only two for a first offence.
Sorry Virgin mates, but that is the way the laughing pullover makes your upper class appear to the public. My condolences to the crew who had to deal with this girl's tantrums.
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Having personally been on the receiving end of his disloyalty this doesn't surprise me at all. I feel sorry for all the VA staff that are still there. Because of the way he treated me I left after over 12 years. The guy is a complete w****r!!!
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So , after a massive backlash from the public, including from this forum, the boss decides it's in his best interests to slide out a press release saying he didn't really mean all the quotes attributed to him, that he is a responsible manager etc...the word "smarmy"comes to mind!
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hmmmmm...
Reminds me of the virgin blue incident at OOL last year when cabin crew booted off an aggressive man, however because sir dick was flying on that flight he undermined his staff and got the gentleman involved back on the flight.
QUOTE " Disruptive passengers are rare due to the training and professionalism of our crew. " err, wake up sunshine....if a pax hops on a aircraft drunk or under the influence of prohibited substances or doesn't like his seat allocations blah blah blah then I highly doubt cabin crew can stop an outburst or disruptive behaviour - sure a flight attendant CAN RESPOND to an incident of such a nature but they can't stop an initial outburst which is exactly what happened in this instance.
How would the crew have felt aboard that flight ? Would they dare report such a incident in the future if they know that they won't be supported 100% ? If he backs his staff up then she should not have been given another chance to fly virgin atlantic as her digusting behaviour has been witnessed aboard other airlines before - it's clearly obvious she likes to play up on aircraft so I reckon she will soon be running out of airlines to fly across the atlantic with ! Catch a boat next time honey.
Reminds me of the virgin blue incident at OOL last year when cabin crew booted off an aggressive man, however because sir dick was flying on that flight he undermined his staff and got the gentleman involved back on the flight.
QUOTE " Disruptive passengers are rare due to the training and professionalism of our crew. " err, wake up sunshine....if a pax hops on a aircraft drunk or under the influence of prohibited substances or doesn't like his seat allocations blah blah blah then I highly doubt cabin crew can stop an outburst or disruptive behaviour - sure a flight attendant CAN RESPOND to an incident of such a nature but they can't stop an initial outburst which is exactly what happened in this instance.
How would the crew have felt aboard that flight ? Would they dare report such a incident in the future if they know that they won't be supported 100% ? If he backs his staff up then she should not have been given another chance to fly virgin atlantic as her digusting behaviour has been witnessed aboard other airlines before - it's clearly obvious she likes to play up on aircraft so I reckon she will soon be running out of airlines to fly across the atlantic with ! Catch a boat next time honey.
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I know as much about the true facts of all this as everyone else who's posted so far - zero.
We get the usual drivel about Richard Branson from people who haven't even run a corner shop, let alone built up a major and successful airline. RB does it all wrong, they could do it much better blah blah. Yeah, of course they could. Funny how they're chucking biscuits for a living and he's not.
The so-called celeb says she's been offered free tickets. The company issued a statement saying that's not true. But people here choose to believe the stroppy celeb because it suits them.
We forever slam the press for sensationalising minor aviation incidents but we're happy to swallow press reports hook line and sinker when it suits us.
Of course RB uses publicity. He admits he's alwayd done it because it's a way of getting free publicity for the airline.
And to the BA poster - Virgin's not alone in sucking up to these obnoxious self-important celebs. BA paid so-called "Posh" Victoria Beckham £100,000 when her bags were stolen by baggage handlers at LHR. Yes, that's one hundred thousand pounds! And how much does Joe Public get if his bags go missing? Peanuts under the terms of travel.
Funny how, if it was that bad, she wasn't charged with any offence. She was just cautioned for swearing which she doesn't deny. Nobody even stops to consider the crew may have over-reacted in calling the police in the first place. I'm not saying they did - because like everybody else here, I just don't know. But nobody on this forum ever considers even the possibilty that CC could possibly ever do anything wrong.
Virgin's not a perfect employer, but tell me who is.
BA? Try telling that to the widow of Captain Stuart Clapson, a senior Captain they demoted to F/O for telling the rest of the pax that pushback had been delayed by a trouble-making passenger who was being off-loaded.
We get the usual drivel about Richard Branson from people who haven't even run a corner shop, let alone built up a major and successful airline. RB does it all wrong, they could do it much better blah blah. Yeah, of course they could. Funny how they're chucking biscuits for a living and he's not.
The so-called celeb says she's been offered free tickets. The company issued a statement saying that's not true. But people here choose to believe the stroppy celeb because it suits them.
We forever slam the press for sensationalising minor aviation incidents but we're happy to swallow press reports hook line and sinker when it suits us.
Of course RB uses publicity. He admits he's alwayd done it because it's a way of getting free publicity for the airline.
And to the BA poster - Virgin's not alone in sucking up to these obnoxious self-important celebs. BA paid so-called "Posh" Victoria Beckham £100,000 when her bags were stolen by baggage handlers at LHR. Yes, that's one hundred thousand pounds! And how much does Joe Public get if his bags go missing? Peanuts under the terms of travel.
Funny how, if it was that bad, she wasn't charged with any offence. She was just cautioned for swearing which she doesn't deny. Nobody even stops to consider the crew may have over-reacted in calling the police in the first place. I'm not saying they did - because like everybody else here, I just don't know. But nobody on this forum ever considers even the possibilty that CC could possibly ever do anything wrong.
Virgin's not a perfect employer, but tell me who is.
BA? Try telling that to the widow of Captain Stuart Clapson, a senior Captain they demoted to F/O for telling the rest of the pax that pushback had been delayed by a trouble-making passenger who was being off-loaded.
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Branson and Courtney fall out!
Oh dear the 'Love' fest seems to be over.
Branson and Courtney Love are slagging each other off in the The Sun today. Glad to see that Richard has at last backed his cabin crew rather than toadying up to some silly old hag.....
Keep up the good work boys and girls.
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Branson and Courtney Love are slagging each other off in the The Sun today. Glad to see that Richard has at last backed his cabin crew rather than toadying up to some silly old hag.....
Keep up the good work boys and girls.
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Nope, I'm not Will W. I'd like his money but I prefer my job.
I don't deny I admire what RB has achieved, but mainly I'm just staggered by the attitudes of CC and others on this forum. On the one hand totally disbelieve this tart's version of what happened in the exchange with the IFS, and on the other hand swallow without question her version of her exchange with RB.
Doesn't seem to have occurred to the people posting here that she had a motive for exaggerating what RB said when they met.
Slag offf the tabloids for sensationalising any aviation incident, but believe everything they say when it suits.
Calling CC a b*tch is unacceptable, especially female CC, and would almost certainly justify banning from future flights depending upon the circs - like hearing both sides not just one.
Calling the police coz someone swears is equally unacceptable and OTT. IMHO calling or threatening to call the police is done far too often. If it happened as often as the big talkers say on this forum I'd be seriously worried, but it doesn't.
U_R: You could be right, but it's more likely the police have got more serious things to deal with than prosecuting somebody for swearing on a flight. Any charge would have to be the most minor criminal charge in the book, no suggestion anyone was threatened or assaulted.
Nope, I'm not Will W. I'd like his money but I prefer my job.
I don't deny I admire what RB has achieved, but mainly I'm just staggered by the attitudes of CC and others on this forum. On the one hand totally disbelieve this tart's version of what happened in the exchange with the IFS, and on the other hand swallow without question her version of her exchange with RB.
Doesn't seem to have occurred to the people posting here that she had a motive for exaggerating what RB said when they met.Slag offf the tabloids for sensationalising any aviation incident, but believe everything they say when it suits.
Calling CC a b*tch is unacceptable, especially female CC, and would almost certainly justify banning from future flights depending upon the circs - like hearing both sides not just one.
Calling the police coz someone swears is equally unacceptable and OTT. IMHO calling or threatening to call the police is done far too often. If it happened as often as the big talkers say on this forum I'd be seriously worried, but it doesn't.
U_R: You could be right, but it's more likely the police have got more serious things to deal with than prosecuting somebody for swearing on a flight. Any charge would have to be the most minor criminal charge in the book, no suggestion anyone was threatened or assaulted.
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The rumour goes that a statement has been issued to VS staff that she was NOT given free tickets - (this was a media invention), and she had already paid for return tickets. hmmmm
Good on ya the crew who had to put up with the abuse.... why should we????!!!!!! You deserve a medal in my book.
Good on ya the crew who had to put up with the abuse.... why should we????!!!!!! You deserve a medal in my book.
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The article did actually say...
"She now says she's been offered free first-class tickets to fly Virgin again - a claim later denied by the airline."
Don't miss that last bit.
"She now says she's been offered free first-class tickets to fly Virgin again - a claim later denied by the airline."
Don't miss that last bit.
