British Airways - CC Industrial Relations Mk V
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@ Albert Salmon ... thanks for the IoD feedback. You will undoubtedly be asked to prove that by a man wearing a Keir Hardie cap, of course ![Wink](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
Ladies and gentlemen, you can bang your gums endlessly on the esoteric subjects of "Doors 5" and "CSD helping with a trolley". The differences between LHR and LGW have been a revelation, as has the assertion that LHR crews apparently need more CC for handling easier customers.
However, the fact remains that customers may be the least of your problems in the future. There won't be enough of them to support the company. It's as simple as that.
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Ladies and gentlemen, you can bang your gums endlessly on the esoteric subjects of "Doors 5" and "CSD helping with a trolley". The differences between LHR and LGW have been a revelation, as has the assertion that LHR crews apparently need more CC for handling easier customers.
However, the fact remains that customers may be the least of your problems in the future. There won't be enough of them to support the company. It's as simple as that.
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Have you been to the Unite website? Try posting that you are a pilot that wishes to switch to Unite. The website refers you to Balpa. So not possible.
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In your dreams.
The sad fact is that most of those suspended are not what you might class as a militant minority. These are dedicated crew who were completely at the end of their tether with multiple problems on a particular flight, compounding the crass way changes to work routines and complements were introduced, without any prior training or checks by BA that its senior crew were up to speed.
Can you imagine going in to John Lewis and hearing the senior shop assistant apologise for the delay in providing a service to customers, due to management imposed staffing levels?
What would be your response?
"Tw*t" would be mine.
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if you are a bassa member you are welcome to welcome to search for it yourself.
Yet another own goal, Romans44.
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These are dedicated crew who were completely at the end of their tether with multiple problems on a particular flight
This would be intolerable outside BAbaland. In fact, it would be considered gross misconduct - which is a sacking offence in any normal company.
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Originally Posted by romans44
if you are a bassa member you are welcome to welcome to search for it yourself.
Now there's a surprise!
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a man wearing a Keir Hardie cap
Have you tried flying Blue Island from Jersey? A really good service, and quite a memorable experience, too.
No DF, and no cabin service either - but then again Blue Island does not need CC - thank heaven.
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Just seen on the Bassa website that DH (the branch secretary) has been suspended, and no-one is allowed to discuss it on the Bassa forum.
The plot thickens, this whole situation is taking many twists and turns. I can't keep up!
The plot thickens, this whole situation is taking many twists and turns. I can't keep up!
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but then he followed that by telling me
I wish you would just move on without insulting people
Mr Salmon,
BA itself has a zero tolerance when it comes to any forms of abuse, including verbal.
I don't think that at any stages in this forum I have been rude to you and yet you have ,without even knowing me.
I can assure that I value every single customers , but that does not give anyone the right to be rude or abusive.
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Apparently one of these csd's started the briefing with the words
"if anyone didn't vote yes you can f**k off now!"
Please Willie, sack 'em, so the good ones can work without harrassment!
I have to say I've had 3 outstanding crews over the holiday period,
and those crew who had voted yes were clear they wouldn't have gone on strike and wouldn't vote yes again.
"if anyone didn't vote yes you can f**k off now!"
Please Willie, sack 'em, so the good ones can work without harrassment!
I have to say I've had 3 outstanding crews over the holiday period,
and those crew who had voted yes were clear they wouldn't have gone on strike and wouldn't vote yes again.
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It seems the slo-mo train crash is reaching the buffers before 1 Feb.
How very interesting.
Allegedly.
My views are those of a paying customer - that is my only linkage with BA.
How very interesting.
Allegedly.
My views are those of a paying customer - that is my only linkage with BA.
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Of course Gatwick is a hub, but Heathrow is the major one, by far. My post was in answer to romans who asked why major airlines jumped at the chance to move from Gatwick to Heathrow. Apart from the routes, the business opportunity of more passengers passing through Heathrow is a consideration.
Neither reason though is justification for LHR CC to think that they have to have more crew per aircraft than Gatwick CC!!!
Of course Gatwick is a hub, but Heathrow is the major one, by far. My post was in answer to romans who asked why major airlines jumped at the chance to move from Gatwick to Heathrow. Apart from the routes, the business opportunity of more passengers passing through Heathrow is a consideration.
Neither reason though is justification for LHR CC to think that they have to have more crew per aircraft than Gatwick CC!!!
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mr salmon, im a passenger also like yourself, and not happy about all these strike threats in the current climate, however i find your attitude towards the crew really quite rude, if you are no longer flying ba why do you keep posting on the crew thread? you seem to be taking pleasure in the thought of people losing their jobs. it is obvious from reading this forum that a lot of crew such as slidebustle are unhappy about the situation and want to continue to provide a good service, it must be very dispiriting for them to read all your vindictive comments.
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Peterlondon , I am also a BA customer but I do not find that Mr Salmon is rude or offensive to most BA CC just the lemmings who follow BASSA. You yourself have in the past mentioned some poor behaviour by BA CC and are also a CC wanabee, so maybe if you had joined BA you would have voted yes?
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@ peterlondon ... some of the unflattering comments by customers of BA are NOT directed at the generality of BA CC, only those who seem determined to bring down either the company or Mr Walsh through IA ... regardless of the damage so caused.
I think a large number of CC on this thread [perhaps as many as 94%
] understand where he and I are coming from.
Please don't take offence, but have you read the whole thread?
I think a large number of CC on this thread [perhaps as many as 94%
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Please don't take offence, but have you read the whole thread?
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wannabe?
im not a cc wannabe, i have a good job thank you.
i have experienced good and bad crew on ba,and have posted about it but i think saying "see you at the job centre" etc is bad manners and not helpful in any way. i dont see any difference between mr salmons posts and the nasty posts quoted from bassa
i have experienced good and bad crew on ba,and have posted about it but i think saying "see you at the job centre" etc is bad manners and not helpful in any way. i dont see any difference between mr salmons posts and the nasty posts quoted from bassa
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