When to inflate the life jacket?
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Thanks, you're absolutely right of course.
The life jacket, inflated, would make a useful airbag substitute for a brace type landing though wouldn't it?!
I only mention this as on 6/11/09 I was LHR-MAN with BMI and had an aborted landing VERY sharp, sudden ascent when we were 1-2 mins from landing, then went around 3 times. Captain said there had been bird strike ahead of us (feasible, as it was 5.30 ish)
I did start to wonder what sort of landing we were in for but it was OK.
Lots of screaming from other pax though!
While they were doing that, I was mentally re-checking where the exits where and making sure I knew how the door operated!!
The life jacket, inflated, would make a useful airbag substitute for a brace type landing though wouldn't it?!
I only mention this as on 6/11/09 I was LHR-MAN with BMI and had an aborted landing VERY sharp, sudden ascent when we were 1-2 mins from landing, then went around 3 times. Captain said there had been bird strike ahead of us (feasible, as it was 5.30 ish)
I did start to wonder what sort of landing we were in for but it was OK.
Lots of screaming from other pax though!
While they were doing that, I was mentally re-checking where the exits where and making sure I knew how the door operated!!
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A go-around caused that sort of reaction? What a bunch of hysterical pax there were on that flight then! For a very sharp and sudden ascent as you describe, I doubt you were 1-2 mins from the airfield. If there was a bird strike in ahead of the aircraft, doesn't mean there'll be another or that it'll cause an accident. Some people just panic too much
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Agree completely re screaming pax. I wanted to punch the man sitting next to me.
I wonder if there's any way of finding out what was happening to cause our aborted landing. We landed 22 mins late, after being told in-flight that he anticipated landing early.
My husband was parked in a nearby pub car-park, with views of the runway, waiting for me to phone and say I'd collected luggage and was ready to be picked up at the departure drop-off zone. He saw my a/c land, but didn't see any other problems before us.
I wonder if there's any way of finding out what was happening to cause our aborted landing. We landed 22 mins late, after being told in-flight that he anticipated landing early.
My husband was parked in a nearby pub car-park, with views of the runway, waiting for me to phone and say I'd collected luggage and was ready to be picked up at the departure drop-off zone. He saw my a/c land, but didn't see any other problems before us.
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One major international airline states during it's safety briefing to pull 1 tag of the lifejacket inside of the aircraft and the other after vacating!!!
Seems a little like hedging your bets and not really having a clue to me!!!
Seems a little like hedging your bets and not really having a clue to me!!!
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Don't try this in a studio
Interesting subject.
We have recently finished filming a new safety video for an airline who shall remain nameless. On set we were told to not inflate the jacket for the purpose of the video. On account that on some routes, non frequent flyers, shall we say, actually copied the video and lo and behold a cabin full of passengers with life jackets fully inflated was observed. An urban myth ?
Perhaps. For our purposes we decided to film an inflate and deflate. Soon realized that we were in fact asphyxiating the actor. It seems they inflate quite tight, so as to support the head in water. Fortunately we were able to release air through the manual inflate tubes and restore said actors now purple head back to pink. So I'd wait until I felt the cold freezing water sink through my clothes before pulling the red toggles.
One other thing, the light that activates in water !! Well it didn't and when we finally got one to work after soaking it in a bucket for half an hour, we fear that no one would spot a fairy light in the middle of the ocean.
Coopz
We have recently finished filming a new safety video for an airline who shall remain nameless. On set we were told to not inflate the jacket for the purpose of the video. On account that on some routes, non frequent flyers, shall we say, actually copied the video and lo and behold a cabin full of passengers with life jackets fully inflated was observed. An urban myth ?
Perhaps. For our purposes we decided to film an inflate and deflate. Soon realized that we were in fact asphyxiating the actor. It seems they inflate quite tight, so as to support the head in water. Fortunately we were able to release air through the manual inflate tubes and restore said actors now purple head back to pink. So I'd wait until I felt the cold freezing water sink through my clothes before pulling the red toggles.
One other thing, the light that activates in water !! Well it didn't and when we finally got one to work after soaking it in a bucket for half an hour, we fear that no one would spot a fairy light in the middle of the ocean.
Coopz
I was involved in an interesting discussion a couple of weeks ago, which has prompted my to ask a question of the cabin staff on my last four flights.
As they are walking back from the safety demo (or immediately after one of the "non safety" videos which are all the rage these days - don't get me started!) I very politely ask them to demonstrate how to don the life vest while seated and belted in an economy seat or should I stand in the aisle as they did to don it during the demonstration. On each occasion I initially got a bemused look following which two of them admitted they had no idea which option was correct.
Give it a try yourself next trip and let me know the result. I'd be very interested in any "official" response, including how a 120kg person is going to be able to "reach down and retrieve the life vest from under your seat."
Gne
As they are walking back from the safety demo (or immediately after one of the "non safety" videos which are all the rage these days - don't get me started!) I very politely ask them to demonstrate how to don the life vest while seated and belted in an economy seat or should I stand in the aisle as they did to don it during the demonstration. On each occasion I initially got a bemused look following which two of them admitted they had no idea which option was correct.
Give it a try yourself next trip and let me know the result. I'd be very interested in any "official" response, including how a 120kg person is going to be able to "reach down and retrieve the life vest from under your seat."
Gne