QANTAS CABIN CREW DISCUSSIONS ( IV)
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MACQUARIE........yeah right!!!
Last night I woke up in a cold sweat.
It all suddenly makes sense to me .............MACQUARIE.!!!!
No I haven't been on the hoochy cooochy !!!!!
Follow me for a sec.
I have always been wondering WHAT management books those Dopes(aka Visitors) actually follow. Then I thought that its...........GOVERNOR MACQUARIE manual on how to set up a Penal colony.
We are in a PENAL COLONY.!!!!!!!!
Back in 1788 , if some poor coot pinched a loaf of bread ( aka Unicef envelope -by mistake ! ) . They were sent 20,000 kms away as convicts to work there rings off. No court case, just punted.!
Same same........ for crew.
Then the other MACQUARIE..............owners of the Airport. The most treacherous bunch of Corporate thieves in Australia's history...........make the guys at Enron look like pre schoolers !!!!!
Max the axe, Darth, il Duce, Fat boy Slim...........all making sense to you all now.
Its a MACQUARIE conspiracy !!!!
Now I can sleep. !!!!
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It all suddenly makes sense to me .............MACQUARIE.!!!!
No I haven't been on the hoochy cooochy !!!!!
Follow me for a sec.
I have always been wondering WHAT management books those Dopes(aka Visitors) actually follow. Then I thought that its...........GOVERNOR MACQUARIE manual on how to set up a Penal colony.
We are in a PENAL COLONY.!!!!!!!!
Back in 1788 , if some poor coot pinched a loaf of bread ( aka Unicef envelope -by mistake ! ) . They were sent 20,000 kms away as convicts to work there rings off. No court case, just punted.!
Same same........ for crew.
Then the other MACQUARIE..............owners of the Airport. The most treacherous bunch of Corporate thieves in Australia's history...........make the guys at Enron look like pre schoolers !!!!!
Max the axe, Darth, il Duce, Fat boy Slim...........all making sense to you all now.
Its a MACQUARIE conspiracy !!!!
Now I can sleep. !!!!
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I love your stories WWW please provide some more humour, Fat boy slim should be the new target....... I wonder what drove him to do this latest despicable act..
Sydney sh if you operated over your expiry date it was illegal and they did it to suit them.
Sydney sh if you operated over your expiry date it was illegal and they did it to suit them.
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emergency procedures
http://www.casa.gov.au/download/orders/cao20/2011.pdf
legal requirement is still once a year. qf is considering going back to once a year to save costs.
legal requirement is still once a year. qf is considering going back to once a year to save costs.
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Thanks for that link QCC2.
Well it looks like our AEPM is incorrect here is a cut and paste straight out of our current AEPM.
1.15.1.1 Proficiency Requirements
• A crew member shall not be assigned to emergency duties in an aircraft unless
that crew member has under-taken and passed an Emergency Procedures
Proficiency Test, which shall be current for six (6) months.
• An Emergency Procedures proficiency test taken within 60 days before the
expiry date shall be deemed to have been taken on the expiry date and is valid
until the normal Emergency Procedures date.
• Aircrew must be aware of the expiry date of their Emergency Procedures
Training and advise their Manager well in advance if annual Emergency
Procedures revalidation appears to have been overlooked.
• Cabin Crew whose Emergency Procedures recency has expired are not
permitted to operate out of their operating crew base. If recency expires due to
down-line disruption while on a tour of duty, they may operate only as Assist
Cabin Crew back to their operating crew base.
Well it looks like our AEPM is incorrect here is a cut and paste straight out of our current AEPM.
1.15.1.1 Proficiency Requirements
• A crew member shall not be assigned to emergency duties in an aircraft unless
that crew member has under-taken and passed an Emergency Procedures
Proficiency Test, which shall be current for six (6) months.
• An Emergency Procedures proficiency test taken within 60 days before the
expiry date shall be deemed to have been taken on the expiry date and is valid
until the normal Emergency Procedures date.
• Aircrew must be aware of the expiry date of their Emergency Procedures
Training and advise their Manager well in advance if annual Emergency
Procedures revalidation appears to have been overlooked.
• Cabin Crew whose Emergency Procedures recency has expired are not
permitted to operate out of their operating crew base. If recency expires due to
down-line disruption while on a tour of duty, they may operate only as Assist
Cabin Crew back to their operating crew base.
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i think the paragraph reflects casa's position.
"Aircrew must be aware of the expiry date of their Emergency Procedures
Training and advise their Manager well in advance if annual Emergency
Procedures revalidation appears to have been overlooked".
"Aircrew must be aware of the expiry date of their Emergency Procedures
Training and advise their Manager well in advance if annual Emergency
Procedures revalidation appears to have been overlooked".
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My EP's have expired while i'm on A/L. As the first date they could allocate me is not until the end of the last week of this roster i have been given home leave until that date.
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Has anyone heard how many crew have put in a final expression of interest for VR ?
Perhaps some of those here that are not in the faaa (we really believe you) but seem to have a lot of inside information can tell us.
It will be interesting to see the change in seniority after VR is completed.Our bidding might be looking a lot better not to mention holidays as well
Rumour has it that the allowance in LA would have been a lot higher however the faaa was worried that the company would replace all of us on the LA's with AKL crew if we had pushed it....interesting if you consider that there is something like 360 rooms a night in the misadventure and I'm not sure how many crew there are in AKL but I doubt they could do the flying with the amount of LA's and SFO's we now do.
Perhaps some of those here that are not in the faaa (we really believe you) but seem to have a lot of inside information can tell us.
It will be interesting to see the change in seniority after VR is completed.Our bidding might be looking a lot better not to mention holidays as well
Rumour has it that the allowance in LA would have been a lot higher however the faaa was worried that the company would replace all of us on the LA's with AKL crew if we had pushed it....interesting if you consider that there is something like 360 rooms a night in the misadventure and I'm not sure how many crew there are in AKL but I doubt they could do the flying with the amount of LA's and SFO's we now do.
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Leane7,
Thanks for the info on the AKL base numbers.I would not worry about the overseas cap as the faaa almost certainly would also do nothing about it either
Even if the company doubled the number in AKL ,I doubt that the company would have the numbers to take us off the US trips.Especially when you consider that the attrition rate on the other side of the pond is horrendous and think about how many crew are currently being used to operate LA's with the JFK shuttle not to mention the new SFO's with the YVR shuttles.I'm fairly sure that there are more than 360 rooms a night used at the misadventure alone.
Again it would appear that the faaa has done what it is best at and that is capitulating.The 3 stooges led by Ben Dover really out think Darth at every turn.They organise a small increase in the LA allowance to let us think they are looking after us and really it was the company who wins again
Thanks for the info on the AKL base numbers.I would not worry about the overseas cap as the faaa almost certainly would also do nothing about it either
Even if the company doubled the number in AKL ,I doubt that the company would have the numbers to take us off the US trips.Especially when you consider that the attrition rate on the other side of the pond is horrendous and think about how many crew are currently being used to operate LA's with the JFK shuttle not to mention the new SFO's with the YVR shuttles.I'm fairly sure that there are more than 360 rooms a night used at the misadventure alone.
Again it would appear that the faaa has done what it is best at and that is capitulating.The 3 stooges led by Ben Dover really out think Darth at every turn.They organise a small increase in the LA allowance to let us think they are looking after us and really it was the company who wins again
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The armchair champion...not one scintilla of an idea but a helluva lot of criticism.
In case you haven`t noticed legislation has all but emasculated the unions in Australia.
The leadership of the FAAA have been handed a poison chalice.
The job is not made any easier by individuals such as yourself who carp on and on and on.
The VR was your chance to show your stuff and leave.
But hey,you are still here.
Either, the jobs not that bad, or life on the outside is way too tough for you to survive.
In case you haven`t noticed legislation has all but emasculated the unions in Australia.
The leadership of the FAAA have been handed a poison chalice.
The job is not made any easier by individuals such as yourself who carp on and on and on.
The VR was your chance to show your stuff and leave.
But hey,you are still here.
Either, the jobs not that bad, or life on the outside is way too tough for you to survive.
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Ahhh the faaa comes back with it's usual retort but little fact...
Under the current formula the allowances are based on a restaurant that the company and union agree to use within the confines of the hotel.In this case the company even nominated the restaurant ,so that is a no brainer.
The formula then works out that the daily allowance should be a lot higher than the one agreed to by the faaa.....When the union has the right to go for the acceptable amount why did they go for the lesser amount...
The AKL crew are flat out doing the flying they have been allocated and indeed must be stretched if you look at some of the slips in NRT such as I just have (80 hours at times for AKL crew) how are they going to be doing all of our States trips....
Argusmoon ...I did not take VR because I like the job and want to continue and as such have an interest in what the faaa is or is not doing.I want to know why the faaa continues to roll over..but then again if that is all you know what to do then stick with it
Under the current formula the allowances are based on a restaurant that the company and union agree to use within the confines of the hotel.In this case the company even nominated the restaurant ,so that is a no brainer.
The formula then works out that the daily allowance should be a lot higher than the one agreed to by the faaa.....When the union has the right to go for the acceptable amount why did they go for the lesser amount...
The AKL crew are flat out doing the flying they have been allocated and indeed must be stretched if you look at some of the slips in NRT such as I just have (80 hours at times for AKL crew) how are they going to be doing all of our States trips....
Argusmoon ...I did not take VR because I like the job and want to continue and as such have an interest in what the faaa is or is not doing.I want to know why the faaa continues to roll over..but then again if that is all you know what to do then stick with it
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.......another QF F/A stood down?????ALLEGATION ?
Just heard that last week on a NRT-SYD sector a F/A with 20 yrs on the clock decided that he needed to show off his "one -eyed trouser snake" to the female CSS .......IN THE GALLEY !!!!!!!!!!!
This is based on Rumour , and as this is a rumour network...........can anyone confirm or deny ???
Crikey ! the FAAA Industrial Officers must be working their clackers off. What with all of the hearings in the Commission recently , maybe they're regretting the move from Sussex St.............William st ( AIRC ) is only a 5 min cab ride.
Anyway, the final numbers should be announced this week. Word is that there was a massive surge on the last 2 days with in excess of 420 applications coming in.
So..................now for the FINAL COUNTDOWN.
This is based on Rumour , and as this is a rumour network...........can anyone confirm or deny ???
Crikey ! the FAAA Industrial Officers must be working their clackers off. What with all of the hearings in the Commission recently , maybe they're regretting the move from Sussex St.............William st ( AIRC ) is only a 5 min cab ride.
Anyway, the final numbers should be announced this week. Word is that there was a massive surge on the last 2 days with in excess of 420 applications coming in.
So..................now for the FINAL COUNTDOWN.
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just an enhanced procedure
WWW-
the f/a you speak of was just following the new enhanced Y/C procedures. Its called
"IN THE BONE"
Traditionally the old chief steward would present his schlong on a silver salver delicately garnished with parsley -however I believe with the new procedures the trouser snake is to be garnished with pink &white marshmellows.
the f/a you speak of was just following the new enhanced Y/C procedures. Its called
"IN THE BONE"
Traditionally the old chief steward would present his schlong on a silver salver delicately garnished with parsley -however I believe with the new procedures the trouser snake is to be garnished with pink &white marshmellows.
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If this rumour has any basis of fact then the individual is in trouble and to be honest I have no sympathy for him.
We have enough problems to act on and do not need this sort of stupidity.Not only do we have drug runners and people convicted of child pornography but now we have this rubbish.
We have enough problems to act on and do not need this sort of stupidity.Not only do we have drug runners and people convicted of child pornography but now we have this rubbish.
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The rumour mill is going overtime with the number of crew applying for VR is closer to 600.
Apparently or so the rumour goes , there was a landslide of applications on the last 2 days.
If this is true,will the company take all the crew wanting VR or will there be some disappointed crew.Also how will the company decide who gets VR and who gets a knock back.
I wonder if any of those in the faaa have put their hand up for the package?
Apparently or so the rumour goes , there was a landslide of applications on the last 2 days.
If this is true,will the company take all the crew wanting VR or will there be some disappointed crew.Also how will the company decide who gets VR and who gets a knock back.
I wonder if any of those in the faaa have put their hand up for the package?
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why not
give everyone the package when they have trained a lot of domestic as csm's (with more if need be, and made it clear to lh there will be no upgrades),have plenty of casuals on hand. that means less regional flying.
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THE MONKEYS SHOW......revisted !
OK, by now you probably have got the gist of my posts.
A once loyal Qantas flight steward, who saw the "glory daze" of the 14 day States trips ( via Nadi, HNL, LAX combi to PPT -SYD ) etc etc bunkered down in the bowels of the LLG.
Time marches on and the CHANGE process has meant that I'm moving into the REAL (sic!) world.........I'm happy about this, no regrets.
BUT............the ONLY question I want answered now is......WHEN?????
After 25 years with the Rat, I have signed my VR document and now I want to plan for the future.
Everytime, I have asked the question of my Cabin Crew Team Manager ( aka "Chump" ) I get......."ahhh, mmmm.
So then I asked a cabin Crew Manager (BIG Chump )................same lame, patheic response:
"Ohhhhh , Ummmmmmmm, mmmmmmmmmmmm, ahhhhhmmmmmm.
.......not sure when its going to be!!!!"
You are kidding me!
Is it October?, is it December? No body knows.
I even called our illustrious "pie eating" representatives ( aka Chimps).
No surprise here either.
They were "busy"- out at meetings ( probably down at the Commission....again ) " No worries I said "...........don't bother calling me back, just in case the "rugless one" calls me and I'll have to listen to a War & Peace " response.
And now I understand our Short Haul "colleagues" ( yeah right) have been offered LWOP and VR. Have they been given a exit date ?????
I get the feeing its like, "last one to leave , turn off the lights".
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A once loyal Qantas flight steward, who saw the "glory daze" of the 14 day States trips ( via Nadi, HNL, LAX combi to PPT -SYD ) etc etc bunkered down in the bowels of the LLG.
Time marches on and the CHANGE process has meant that I'm moving into the REAL (sic!) world.........I'm happy about this, no regrets.
BUT............the ONLY question I want answered now is......WHEN?????
After 25 years with the Rat, I have signed my VR document and now I want to plan for the future.
Everytime, I have asked the question of my Cabin Crew Team Manager ( aka "Chump" ) I get......."ahhh, mmmm.
So then I asked a cabin Crew Manager (BIG Chump )................same lame, patheic response:
"Ohhhhh , Ummmmmmmm, mmmmmmmmmmmm, ahhhhhmmmmmm.
.......not sure when its going to be!!!!"
You are kidding me!
Is it October?, is it December? No body knows.
I even called our illustrious "pie eating" representatives ( aka Chimps).
No surprise here either.
They were "busy"- out at meetings ( probably down at the Commission....again ) " No worries I said "...........don't bother calling me back, just in case the "rugless one" calls me and I'll have to listen to a War & Peace " response.
And now I understand our Short Haul "colleagues" ( yeah right) have been offered LWOP and VR. Have they been given a exit date ?????
I get the feeing its like, "last one to leave , turn off the lights".
www