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If Richard Branson had spent the same amount of time the guys behind FlyWhoDunnit have spent on this and other forums endlessly trying to keep alive and defend a concept that still only exists in their own minds, Virgin Atlantic would never have happened and he would be still be trying to relaunch Mike Oldfield rather than buying a fleet of A380s.
FlyWho, (and you're all over this thread, who do you think you're kidding?), just forget about Prpune, the Disney forum and every other forum, you'll get no credit marks for anything you say here, all that matters is getting heavy metal in the air with paying punters.
FlyWho, (and you're all over this thread, who do you think you're kidding?), just forget about Prpune, the Disney forum and every other forum, you'll get no credit marks for anything you say here, all that matters is getting heavy metal in the air with paying punters.
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Wan2fly, I have read all I need to know about this outfit & your tedious threads as well. I just hope it works out for you as you seem so obsessed with this dubious outfit......but i still think your wasting your time mate.
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So if you have had enough why read it ?.
Its one thing having an opinion but to get personal is quite another.
Everyone has, obviously, got an interest in FW and are airing views/experiences etc on here.
Im not exactly obsessed as you put it - however of course i want them to work.
Ending - Stop reading my tedious threads then ! I guess we wont hear from you again as you wont be reading this one.
Its one thing having an opinion but to get personal is quite another.
Everyone has, obviously, got an interest in FW and are airing views/experiences etc on here.
Im not exactly obsessed as you put it - however of course i want them to work.
Ending - Stop reading my tedious threads then ! I guess we wont hear from you again as you wont be reading this one.
In all my years in aviation why would any new carrier regardless of who they are, want to jump on another Companies AOC or ATOL.
The excuse this time was that FW were on someone elses ATOL license and the ATOL holder pull out. Something not right with that!
Also I thought FW was going to be a scheduled carrier operating to points in Florida - not a charter carrier!!!
Our ATOL-licensed partner had originally agreed to a programme of charter flights to Florida and would be responsible for the sale of all the seats. All reservations would have been effected with them and protected accordingly. Sadly, they failed to commit to the contract in necessary practical ways within an appropriate timescale
The excuse this time was that FW were on someone elses ATOL license and the ATOL holder pull out. Something not right with that!
Also I thought FW was going to be a scheduled carrier operating to points in Florida - not a charter carrier!!!
Our ATOL-licensed partner had originally agreed to a programme of charter flights to Florida and would be responsible for the sale of all the seats. All reservations would have been effected with them and protected accordingly. Sadly, they failed to commit to the contract in necessary practical ways within an appropriate timescale
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...and what is happening on Saturday 
Oh yes, I forgot, the official launch of FLYUSANYWHEREEXCEPTFLORIDA.COM starting scheduled flights to Reunion Island. It's soon time for Flywho's 1st reunion anyway.....
Oh yes, I forgot, the official launch of FLYUSANYWHEREEXCEPTFLORIDA.COM starting scheduled flights to Reunion Island. It's soon time for Flywho's 1st reunion anyway.....
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I doubt he is in the air - Just a plane spotter who hates flying, I mean "WHO"else ( No pun intended ) would take so much enjoyment in been negative about an airline - Maybe someone from FW nicked his bobble hat or sumthin ???
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flywho alive still?
Word on the street is that the cabin crew met last week and VERY impressed. Trainign starts VERY soon. Programme looks very interesting and all doubters will be silenced!
Believe it when I see it but very credible source. Be prepared to have red faces if this lot does fly!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. does anyone else know anyone who went?????
Believe it when I see it but very credible source. Be prepared to have red faces if this lot does fly!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. does anyone else know anyone who went?????
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The cabin crew met and were VERY impressed, so that means this outfit are about to take off does it? Listen to yourselves, what's the point in training cabin crew, they haven't sold a seat yet, they have no advertised programme or do they intend flying empty aircraft!!!!
Sorry but it's complete and utter rubbish. With all respect to the guys and girls that have been told they have been successful with their applications as cabin crew but remember they don't have jobs yet with flywho and they are not being paid, they are simply on a list of potential crew. As most that have been cabin crew (and I was for many years) will tell you it's great to see the product you will be working with, the presentation, cabin interiors, livery, uniform etc. The marketing/sales, business plan etc are of no real interest. I can fully undersatnd this, I've been there.
It now appears (from the website) that they will not be operating as a schedule airline and will be selling via an atol holder. In that case they will need to be contracting with the relevant tour operators to be featured in their brochures and on their websites to get maximum exposure in the markets they will be aiming at. They will need an atol holder with quite a high profile or a large sales/marketing budget. I see no evidence of either. Their own website alone will not generate enough sales to launch the airline.
Again I apologise for putting a downer on anyones hopes but those of you that have been VERY impressed, please take it easy, do your homework and check these guys out, look at tour operators brochures and websites for Florida and see if flywho are featured. I think you'll find they're not which means there will be no launch in the near future, ask yourself, where will the customers come from? How will the seats be sold?
Potential cabin crew being VERY impressed with a product does not sell seats. Aggressive, clever, focussed and potentially expensive marketing does, I am yet to see anything that convinces me flywho will take off.
A question related to my second paragraph, tell me, those of you that have been told that a cabin crew training course will begin shortly, do you have contracts and are you being paid? If you are about to go on a training course you must be employed by the company and being paid a salary?
Sorry but it's complete and utter rubbish. With all respect to the guys and girls that have been told they have been successful with their applications as cabin crew but remember they don't have jobs yet with flywho and they are not being paid, they are simply on a list of potential crew. As most that have been cabin crew (and I was for many years) will tell you it's great to see the product you will be working with, the presentation, cabin interiors, livery, uniform etc. The marketing/sales, business plan etc are of no real interest. I can fully undersatnd this, I've been there.
It now appears (from the website) that they will not be operating as a schedule airline and will be selling via an atol holder. In that case they will need to be contracting with the relevant tour operators to be featured in their brochures and on their websites to get maximum exposure in the markets they will be aiming at. They will need an atol holder with quite a high profile or a large sales/marketing budget. I see no evidence of either. Their own website alone will not generate enough sales to launch the airline.
Again I apologise for putting a downer on anyones hopes but those of you that have been VERY impressed, please take it easy, do your homework and check these guys out, look at tour operators brochures and websites for Florida and see if flywho are featured. I think you'll find they're not which means there will be no launch in the near future, ask yourself, where will the customers come from? How will the seats be sold?
Potential cabin crew being VERY impressed with a product does not sell seats. Aggressive, clever, focussed and potentially expensive marketing does, I am yet to see anything that convinces me flywho will take off.
A question related to my second paragraph, tell me, those of you that have been told that a cabin crew training course will begin shortly, do you have contracts and are you being paid? If you are about to go on a training course you must be employed by the company and being paid a salary?
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But, don't hold your breath......
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They will probably (maybe) get an AOC and then do subs for BMI down to India
I can't for one moment see flywho being an approved Star alliance carrier! After all, the Indian routes will be full service bmi and Star alliance routes and from what I know, it has to be an approved Star alliance airline to sub out to.
That was funny though. Maybe they're more akin to the likes of the Flyjet BHX charters to Amritsar?
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i just thinkits odd that the airline first came onthe scene over a year ago and it still hasn't taken off. i worked for av8air and belive me it sounds exactly the same as this. they wer saying everything was ok and new a/c are coming, truth was they wer jus trying the tell the crew wat they wanted to hear to keep them happy.
the question u have to ask is een if they where to have gone ahead with the june launch, where is the aircraft. when a start up airlins happens its usual that the aircraft are at least in the same country at least a month before first flight to get it all prepared and crew familiarisation flights.
where has the aircraft gone, was it ever here or is it still satin the dessert covered in dust!!!!!!
i hope for all these people saying watch this space that tey still arent saying that come end of summer.
good luck to all..............i think this venture will need alot of it
oh yeah an i must say that was funny about the bmi idea
its like saying air scandic are doing BA flights
lololololololo
the question u have to ask is een if they where to have gone ahead with the june launch, where is the aircraft. when a start up airlins happens its usual that the aircraft are at least in the same country at least a month before first flight to get it all prepared and crew familiarisation flights.
where has the aircraft gone, was it ever here or is it still satin the dessert covered in dust!!!!!!
i hope for all these people saying watch this space that tey still arent saying that come end of summer.
good luck to all..............i think this venture will need alot of it
oh yeah an i must say that was funny about the bmi idea
its like saying air scandic are doing BA flights
lololololololo
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Agree with you flyguy, there is no way they will launch in June or I wouldn't have thought any time this year. I've been trying to find someone that sells on their behalf, as yet I've drawn a blank. So as per my previous post, they can't have sold a seat so they'll be flying around fresh air! Or I could be totally wrong and they're the worlds best kept secret, if that's the case I'll accept all of the I told you so posts that will follow.
It's also been well over a year that they've been talking about operating, more like three years.
Like your suggestion of Air Scandic operating on behalf of BA, maybe they'll be the next franchise!!!!
It's also been well over a year that they've been talking about operating, more like three years.
Like your suggestion of Air Scandic operating on behalf of BA, maybe they'll be the next franchise!!!!
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in reference to who flies a310's to north america...i saw an Air Transat A310 off to Toronto from BHX last week...now im sure last time i checked,Toronto is in Canada,which isnt too far from North America..
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in reference to who flies a310's to north america...i saw an Air Transat A310 off to Toronto from BHX last week...now im sure last time i checked,Toronto is in Canada,which isnt too far from North America.
I thought I read somewhere that flywho would have to get extra fuel tanks fitted to make it non-stop to Florida?
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stop bickering girls
airbus website (if you can get past all the A380 stuff) says A310 range = 9,600 kms, distnace to FLL is 6,970 kms.
Think thats the end of it dont you?
let up now please.worry about important stuff instead like food and drink!
Think thats the end of it dont you?
let up now please.worry about important stuff instead like food and drink!