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Old 28th Jun 2010, 02:07
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Hey!

I had my final interview in Sydney too. Mine was on the Monday, didn't have to sit a logic test though. I was fairly confident in knowing what I wanted to say during my final interview but I would have to agree she was a very tough crowd. So it's not only you who thinks that, and it's nice to know she wasn't like that only with me ( I hope).

She looked at her watch towards the end of my interview as well, I don't think you should worry about that I am pretty sure she was just keeping track of the time, she had an interview every hour!

Hey millie!

I don't know if you were the only other girl from Melbourne besides me at the sydney final interview. I didn't have my documentation and pictures with me cause it was all back home in Melbourne. Did she want you to send it to Auckland or Dubai?
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She wanted me to send it to Auckland cause thats where she was headed next. BUT now I don't think it's going to get to her on time cause she leaves Auckland tomorrow so now I'm thinking of emailing everything to Dubai. I had to send more than just pictures though cause I didn't have time/ the ability to get all my certificates and things to her in time for my final interview
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To BigAl and Avo

Who was your interviewers in Sydney final?
I had interivew back in April with Alana and she was very easy going and sweet!
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Colour blindness/braces

Colour blindness: No-go. (Tamsat, why were you confused about the previous answers? I think the answer was clearly written hundred times on pprune.)

Braces: same. No-go. Rmove them or apply next year.

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I thought the recruiters were very easy to talk to. They have to show not too much emotion in the interview otherwise it might give it all away!

I don't think they would be unimpressed with our responses etc, they just have to see us work under pressure! hehe, which I felt for sure!

all in all it was not as bad as people had explained to me before I went.
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well done guys for getting through to the final interviews now all we gotta do is just wait lol
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July 5 joiners A380 batch?

Hi, one of fellow joiners who is joining on July 5 just told me she received an email that she would be assigned for Airbus 380 today. My doj is July 5th too and I only received uniform size request email yesterday(Sunday). For those of you who are joining on July 5, could you leave a reply here if anyone else received this email?

I know there would be about 5 batches on that day(12pplX5=60), so not everyone on that day will be assigned for A380 but was just curious...

Thanks!
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Auckland Open Day

(This post was written yesterday by one of the ppruners.)

Open Day Auckland, New Zealand 26 June 2010

This OD took place in New Zealand, but maybe a similar format for Australia, or different in your country. I suggest reading Emirates Wannabes VII and VI threads in their entirety (yes every single post!) you’ll be amazed how much useful info is in there and you’ll have a much better understanding of this whole process.

I attended the OD in Auckland, New Zealand at the Sky City Convention Centre on Saturday June 26th 2010 which started at 9am. I was really prepared and had flown up from Christchurch. I stayed at a nearby hotel so I took everything to AKL I knew I might need for the OD and FI (see below).

If you live in the city they are holding the OD in obviously you won’t need to take all the clothing and accessories (below) with you. You will only need your CV, 1 x full length business attire photo (6x4”), 1 x portrait photo (6x4”).

Business attire: nice matching fitted suit with knee length skirt for girls with business shirt, skin coloured stockings, court shoes. Same standard for boys. If you don't have a suit buy one or borrow one, then wear it to the OD and FI you will look just as fantastic as your photos! Ladies your hair should be in a bun or french roll, no loose hair like fringes, if you have a fringe just sweep it to the side and hairspray it so it doesn't come loose.

Photos, CV and Paperwork

2 x full length business attire (6x4”) for the OD
1 x portrait photo (6x4”) for the CV what you submit on the OD
2 x full length business attire (6x4”) same as above for the FI
6 x portrait photo in passport size (3.5x4.5cm) can be same potrait photo submitted on OD just smaller.
2 casual photos (6x4”)
Photocopies of all my certificates from work and from studies
2 x colour copies of my passport
Proof of employment: I submitted a photocopy of my work ID card however you can alternatively provide a payslip, or the first and last pages of your employment contract.

In all of the photos you must smile a big friendly smile with your teeth showing. For the full length business attire photo and portrait photo it is best to have these done professionally if you can afford it. Ligth blue background for full-length photo, white background for portrait, make up with red lipstick (the recruiter advised that red lipstick in the business attire/portrait photos is a nice look), hair tied back in a bun/french roll no loose hair like fringes, if you have a fringe just sweep it to the side and hairspray it so it doesn't come loose, feet placed apart with one leg slightly forward, hands by your side, shoulders back, big friendly smile showing your teeth. I had my make-up done professionally at a MAC cosmetics counter as it needs to be a bit more emphasised for photos, for the actual OD and FI I did it myself just toned down the lipstick to more of a rosy neutral colour then you don't end up with it wearing off and just a big red ring of lipliner.

For the casual photos you must be by yourself, pleasant background like a park, your kitchen, a scenic vista etc. not a nightclub! Standing with a relaxed posture, nothing in your hands like drinks/cigarettes, neat and tidy clothing makeup and hair (hiar can be down), big smile showing your teeth.

You need to fill out some paperwork over the day so don’t forget to take some pens! The OD and FI will run over 2 days for those of you travelling from out of town, so expect to stay 2 nights in your hotel and take enough money for eating expenses, after a busy day you may just want to order room service. For those who are locals you’ll need a bit of money for a bite to eat/coffee/drink on the OD, your FI will be on the second/third day after the OD. Water is provided.

Note: The OD will take the WHOLE day! Leaving because you have to go to work or have other commitments will ensure you do not make it to the FI. Likewise the recruiters will try to be accommodating so that you can attend the FI at a time that suits you but first in best dressed, don’t wait until the last minute before saying „I have to attend on this day or I can’t come”, not a good look!

On the first day my friend, who had also traveled from Christchurch, and I arrived early at 8.20 am and sat in the front row. The recruiters arrived around this time and greeted us and introduced themselves, I'll refer to them as P and S. More people arrived and there was a lot of excitement and chatter. We both chatted with the girls next to us and kept smiling and tried to have good body language ie. no fidgeting or talking/laughing too loudly, just being pleasant and friendly.

At 8.45am P handed out some paperwork to fill in:
1. Your details (Name, Age, etc.) to be handed in with your CV,
2. A form requesting info on how you had heard about the OD,
3. Information about the Cabin Crew position (you would have received this as an attachment via email once you registered online) and about Dubai.

Word to the wise – the people who arrived after this time missed out on these forms and were not sure what was going on asking others „where did you get those”, asking the recruiters who were busy „I didn’t get a form, can I have a form”, they had to sit at the very back far far away from the TV playing the videos. It pays to be EARLY.

At 9.00am the recruiters played a video and arranged more seating, 121 people attended and there were not enough seats. P, who was very funny and really lovely, then asked who had come from out of town and with a quick show of hands she thanked us for making the effort to attend. She then asked who had been to Dubai and what was it like, she then asked everyone what they knew about Dubai, people offered up what they knew, e.g. shopping, skiing, tax free, etc. This is a good time to stand out and show you have done your homework.

We then handed in our CVs and photos which took a good hour, people stayed seated and went up one row at a time to hand in their CVs. Being in the front row we got to see the other candidates, we also tried to stay smiling, sit up and not fidget, be professional, no sniggering when you see some of the other candidates, its hard not too but zip your lips and if anyone around you is ridiculing others just smile and change the subject!

Believe me these ladies have seen it all however just because someone may not be perfectly dressed or an expert on Emirates doesn’t mean they don’t have a chance, the recruiters spent time chatting with people here and there, it's to get a feel for these candidates, because the first elimination is coming and all they have to work with is what you give them, if you give them nothing what can they do? They don’t have all day to get to know you and that this is your lifelong dream, they have a job to do so help them do it, they want to offer you the position but you need to make sure you meet all of the requirements.

After this the other recruiter S, who was also friendly and funny, did a presentation about what its like to be cabin crew, she asked people what they thought Emirates cabin crew were like and afterwards answered questions people might have, these ranged from sensible to a bit silly, it was clear who hadn't researched the company as they asked the silliest questions. Again another opportunity to show you are Emirates material, you have done your homework and are prepared and professional.

After this we had a short break, while we were out of the room the recruiters wrote out name tags and assigned you a number from 1 – 121 depending on when you had handed in your CV, obviously those in the front row were the first numbers all the way to those in the back who were last. We came back to the room to get our tags, again 121 people, this takes a while, be patient, try to keep smiling and be polite and say thank you when you speak to the recruiters.

We were then assigned a group based on our numbers, e.g. Group 1 numbers 1-20, Group 2 numbers 21 to 45, etc. Two groups at a time were then asked to stay in the room, and sit in two circles. This is when you will do the reach test and ask the person to your left a question which you will then present to the group. For us this was their name, favourite movie and favourite destination. Try to chat politely, take a genuine interest in your group, you will be with them all day so be supportive and friendly who knows you may be their batch mate after all! You don’t want to be remembered as the know-it-all, the one who no-one could get a word out of or who wouldn’t shut up. Smile and nod even if they are going on about the most ridiculous twaddle you have ever heard. Keep one eye on the person you're talking too and the other on the recruiters and everyone else. This rule applies to the whole day! Don't let yourself get distracted or carried away in the excitement, stay focused but enjoy yourself as well!

So you’ve introduced the person next to you, now as a group you will have a discussion. P advised us that our group’s topic was ‘Should children have cell phones?’ Group 1: List three reasons why. Group 2: List three reasons why not. Remember it’s not about whether children should really have cell phones or which group wins the debate, it’s about how you interact with others, how you handle pressure, can you get your point across in a group but do so in an assertive, polite way. Now is not the time to freeze or look worried! Smile, nod, say yes that’s a good point, elaborate on a point, re-cap your list so far, but NO talking over others, being dismissive or argumentative. P watched one group while S watched the other. When both groups were finished a few people listed the 3 points from each group. Keep smiling and nodding.

We were then asked to wait outside for 10 minutes after which time we would be called by name and given a slip of paper with a 'Congratulations you’re through to the next round' or 'Sorry, thank you for your time'. If successful we were told to come back in an hour so this is a good time to go eat something have a drink, rest and get to know the others in your group.

We had 8 groups in total so this first round took most of the day. Patience is a virtue! Pace yourself! Keep smiling, nodding and go mingle with others. Everyone is nervous and glad to have someone to chat too, as the day goes on your new friends may be eliminated so it pays to speak to as many people as possible. You’ll be glad to have a familiar, smiling face to talk to when you are still there X amount of hours later.

All of the successful applicants were then called back into the room. We were congratulated as their were 37 left out of 121. Those who had not completed High School in New Zealand were asked to complete a simple English test. We were all asked to come back to complete further group activities. Group 1 come back in 10 minutes, Group 2 in 30 minutes, etc.

In this round we were asked to discuss a scenario. P advised us that they had a sheet of paper for each of us and we must say something during the activity, otherwise they would have nothing to write about us and you would be eliminated. Our group had a hotel scenario where we had 2 rooms and 6 guests, an Actress/CEO/Travel Writer/Staff Member/50th wedding anniversary/etc. We had to discuss who would get the rooms and why or why not. Believe me it's do or die in this discussion, your heart is pounding, you are about to lose your mind, you can see the panic in others faces as they think they will not get a chance to speak. Stay calm! Remember to smile, say yes, thats good, etc all the while thinking of a point to say then when there is even the smallest gap in the conversation say it! Raise a new suggestion, listen to what others are saying, because when you have reached your conclusion the recruiters will then speak to you one on one. In our case they pretended to be the Actress/CEO/Travel Writer and you had to politely explain that there was no room available however you had arranged this and you were terribly sorry sir, etc. The recruiter continued to politely argue with you and you had to stay calm and keep discussing the issue with them. “I understand this is inconvenient for you and we value your business however we are doing our best to arrange alternative accommodation for you" and "have a complimentary drink at the bar while we arrange your transport as well”, etc.

We were then asked to wait outside while they decided who had been successful. Three of our group were eliminated and they were the ones who looked anxious, uncomfortable, were not able to keep the discussion going with the recruiter and just shrugged when they ran out of words and didn’t know what else to say. Those who were successful were asked to wait until all the groups had finished for further instructions. As there were 5 more groups it was not until 8.30pm we were called back inside. There were now 28 of us. We were then advised we would make a time for our FI within the next 3 days, those who had come from out of town would have their FI the next day. We were given a letter about requirements of what to bring for the final interview (see above Clothing & Accessories, Photos, CV and Paperwork), what you are provided with in Dubai, how to forward photos if you do not have them with you or have to re-submit them, etc. We then did the psychometric test which took about half an hour and has no right or wrong answers you just answer them as honestly as you can.


After the test we were finally finished for the day, it was 9.30 pm. Ensure you smile confidently at the recruiters as you hand in your psych test and say thank you for a great day and good bye. These ladies work very hard and a thank you is not only polite but well deserved!

Good luck to all of you!

P.S. For those of you who may feel I’ve given it all away and now the competition will be much fiercer, you’re wrong! You will be surprised how many people still show up late, forget things, have a blasé/poor attitude, have the wrong background, are over confident. If you follow all of my advice here you will truly shine on the day and people will gravitate to you! I gave lots of people advice on the day about what to do because I believe in good karma, and you know what, seeing them progress through the rounds was awesome, so don’t forget to post your experiences here too.
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 20:11
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DOJ July 5th

Hi there!

Have any of you guys leaving on July 5th received an email? accommodation, plane ticket, 380 invitation? anything?== hehe..

rgds from Venezuela!

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None of that yet. Just email from Induction Officer. I know a guy from Coratia who got the A380 email yesterday.


Paul, and to everyone, there is a group on Facebook under EK CC DOJ JULY 2010. Join !
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Mari: colour blindness

Yes, I had read before that you yourself had said no about colour blindness... Confusion about a user called StewardMan who asked the same question a couple of years ago but was not answered, and seems to have been to 2 or 3 interviews before finally being accepted this year, and it looks like he is in Dubai now despite colour blindness. I PMed him about it but have had no response, which is why I thought I should ask on the boards to see if anyone could clarify.

For this, I am still unsure, although you seem sure that I can't work for Emirates with colour blindness, it seems StewardMan somehow managed to pass the medicals and get to Dubai.

I still haven't had my GC, just the message "You will be contacted by your Recruitment coordinator at the earliest", so I don't know whether to tell them during the call that I'm colour blind or after they send the medical forms or what...
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colour blindness - Tamsat

Well, there is a "bean test" for sure. As far as I know, colour blindness is not acceptable at Emirates. You'll find the medical requirements below, ask your doctor about the details. (I don't understand some words - like funtionally monocular vision -, so I have no idea if your condition is listed or not.)

Obviously you won't believe me or anyone but clarify it with Emirates. That's what I would do...

Vision

Acceptable if:
Distant visual acuity with or without correction is 6/9 or better in the better eye
Near visual acuity with or without correction is at least N5 at 30-50cm and N14 at 100cm

If visual correction is required:
Must be able to use contact lenses suitable for long-term wear in the dry aircraft environment
Soft permeable lenses are preferable and hard lenses (e.g. for keratoconus) are not suitable

Unacceptable:
Spectacles for visual correction
Visual field defects
Functionally monocular vision

LASIK/PRK

Acceptable if:
Meets above visual standards
Has no complications
More than three months post-op

Ophthalmology

Acceptable if well controlled:
Allergic conjunctivitis

Unacceptable:
Significant eye pathology
Any progressive conditions
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Mari: colour blindness

It's not that I don't believe you, not at all. I read everything I could find on the matter, which is how I came across the case of StewardMan which is why I am questioning it now. If colour blindness was unacceptable, how did a colour blind guy get to become crew with emirates?

What do you mean by "bean test"? And is this done in the person's home country or in Dubai? Colour blindness is not listed at all.

Another thing is I applied for Qatar earlier in the year, and made the final interview, but I had to admit to colour blindness on the final form, and never got the job. I don't know if it was because of colour blindness or not because it's not listed as unnacceptable anywhere and feedback is not given. However I've a feeling that it was the colour blindness. But even if it was, they are two different companies.

I'm not trying to get my hopes up by telling myself it will be ok, I just don't know how to approach the matter from here. I haven't even had my golden call yet and my main concern would be spending a lot of money on medicals if I would definitely fail and be denied because of colour blindness.
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Hi !! I had my FI (14/06/10) and my status never change what do you think about that I am so anxious please if someone have some information let me know thank you...
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Your status doesn't change if they didn't get ALL required documents and pictures from you. You should contact them and ask if they are missing anything from your file.

The test for colour blindness is carried out by the nurse in Dubai. Bean test:
YouTube - Color Blindness test - Real !
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Tamsat, if you are that concerned go see an eye specialist, it may be that there are different stages of colour blindness. I know a guy who can see red but green is a little bit grey looking, maybe the one they are concerned with is where red and green look the same.

If you can get more detailed information from Emirates and know what exactly it is they are worried about, then take that to an opthalmologist and see what they say. It can't hurt! If you were to be successful and sent this information through with your medicals then Emirates can make up their own minds.

There is a girl in one of the batches now who had an eye issue that was a 'grey area', she told me that she saw a specialist who wrote a letter saying it would not be a problem and was not on the 'unacceptable' conditions list and she passed the medical.
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My friend that went through the FI in the USA was given the Visa application and other paperwork at the FI....Is this unusual?
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Why do you think it's unusual? I filled up hundreds of papers before attending the FI.

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Hey guys, my DOJ is August 9th!
Like many others here, I'm also one those who can't open the link to the pre-employment medical forms.
Could anyone kindly e-mail me a copy of the forms? to:
[email protected]
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thank you for the help !
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LittleRedHat - UP tower

hehe thats where i live folks!!
some crew dont like UP as there is no balcony but i think its quite nice cos its in the very center of dubai and close to everything I want!!!!
And if you dont like it, you can move out within one year free of charge

Congrats to evryone coming to Dubai
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