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Old 15th May 2011, 12:35
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Hello everyone!
I have completed the pre employement medical examinations twelve days ago. I am still waiting for a response. Could anyone tell me how long does it take to receive the medical clearance?
Thank you!
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:44
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Hello Fanona!
I think it doesn't matter where you should do the medical tests. They just have to be all in English.
Good luck
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Old 15th May 2011, 19:30
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to Mari

Dear Mari,

Thanks a lot for the valuable info...I will think it well once I receive my contract - I have just been medically cleared and waiting for the contract.

Safe flights,
May
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Old 15th May 2011, 20:13
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Question ???

thanks for the info maroc! I received my congratulations letter last april..I chose form B and until now I'm still processing medical requirements, do you have an idea how long does it take for qatar's medical clearance to be completed after you have completed all of their medical requirements? and what's the next step after that???
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good news about the mild scoliosis

Hi everyone,

I'm happy to share to you all that I got a medical clerance from QR. Now I'm worry free for they have accepted my 5.8 degrees mild scoliosis. This is also for future reference to those in the same scenario.I'm so thankful that QR replied very fast after my F.I. , congratulations e-mail, and medicals it took just 3 weeks for me to get medical clerance. I've read form previous post that some took a month and even after 2 months to get the clearance. It really depends I think.

Although I'm still waiting for the job offer but my joy is very high for I got the clearance.

Indeed"patience is a virtue".

All the best to everyone!
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Old 16th May 2011, 08:49
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hi kittyqa, I really don't konw how much time it takes you to get the medical clearance, but for form B it tooks a long time like my case, i'm still waiting ,too. as i told you i got the congratulation e-mail on march 14, i repeated my chest x-ray and my CBC then they asked me to do other tests because the values of my CBC are not within the normal range, I am really worried about their final answer
my friend got the congratulation e-mail in april and she had already gotten the medical clerance and visa.... because she did the form A.

anyway you should be patient and everything gonna be ok.

wish you good luck
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Old 16th May 2011, 12:32
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I would like to inform you that i didn't obtain my medical clearance

wish good luck
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Qatar Airways experience

I worked for Qatar Airways and this is my experience
Why Qatar Airways is really sick?

Their rules suming our lifes on just one sentence is: we are living for working, not working for living. 12h before pick-up we have minimum rest time and we MUST be in our flat (also, we can see a friend in our building, but not outside the building).
Sometimes I had roster like this:
Woke up time was 3:00 (since I allways wanted to relax, take a long shower time, coffe, breakfast, self preparation etc etc etc. and that always took minimum 90min for me), than pick up at 04:50, than briefing at 05:50, take off at 8:00, landing for example Athens at 12:20, back to Doha around 18:40, waiting for pick up and back in my place at 19:30-19:45. But sometimes happen that I have 3 or 4 days in a row roster like this (Greece, Turkey, Indian Sub-Continent, Intra Gulf) and when I reach home - I am imediatelly on minimum rest time because if (for example) after this Athens flight I have again new flight in the morning (Ankara for example) I am on minimum rest sometimes for 7 days in a row and that is the big problem with Qatar Airways. Even when we have our legal day off it's interupted with minimum rest.
During that time, we can't have visitors (well, sometimes we where cheating the sistem and if somebody from outside visited us we found somebody in the building who is not on minimum rest so the guest can sign as another person guest).
Also, there are some stupid rules and I dont know why.
For example, mobile phone is strictly prohibited when we are in uniform, but however, whatever is prohibited in QR it is STRICTLY prohibited and violated of any rule - performance officers will contact the crew and call to office.
There is grooming check befre each flight - and that is very very very non-comfortable because they treat us like kids - Jackets on girls and boys (then, they check each detail from oudside the uniform), Jackets off (they check then shirts, watch, socks, neils etc...). They also have the right to aks you to open your hand lugage so the grooming officer can see what is in trolley or is it something missing... Whenever is something missing or grooming officer thought that it's not in accordance to standard (and during each briefing there is 1-2 person(s) that something is 0,00001% out of some standard) they just ask - Give me the staff number dear? After that they are making some report about that crew member.

There is also one big problem with minimum rest! Company has the right (well, they think they can do that so they really do that) to check minimum rest time outside the Doha. So, if the crew is on layover somewhere (for example Sao Paolo, Frankfurt, Kuala Lumpur etc.) they can randomly call in hotel room and check will some crew answer the phone call or is the crew member in room 11 or 12 hours before pick up.

They are controling everything in each second.
03:30 is deadline to return back home (but I assume that recruiters told to new candidates about that already). 03:31 is NOT acceptable!!!

The biggest problem is that company is not evaluating mistakes like Emirates or Etihad do. For example: Crew came in accomodation at 3:50 (which is 20min later) and they terminated that girl. But, another crew member slept for pick-up in Bangkok and they called to the room from reception and – nothing, so CSD and CS went to his room with hotel staff and that crew was naked under drugs and with prostitute in the bed. That is not correct way to treat these two situation at the same way with the termination and sending home since the first one is not so serious like the second one, but they are treating the crew like that – „Crew with mistake“ / „Crew without mistake“. If crew made any mistake, they will just deport him/her back home (if crew is lucky) but they also can logged the crew off from each single flight and keep that status for a weeks in Doha because we can't leave the country without exit permit that can be issue only in immigration department. For example, Emirates and Etihad had several crew that was arrested and spent few night in jail because of driving after alchohol consumption - but these crew member are still working because Emirates nor Etihad doesnt interfere private mistakes with job mistakes.


Anyway, I am not talking about these extreme things since I am also a type of person who is not tolerating this problematic behavior even in Europe and I am also the one who would like to put all drunk drivers in jail etc., but freedom in walking, eating, recreating, spending time with friends and dear people etc is not a crime and it is normal all around the world, but there is just few acceptable things in Qatar Airways and before or after we all realized that is slavering company.

There was nice moments etc., but at the end of the day - I was like animal there and never want to repeat that in my life.

There is also milions of examples how they treat the people but each inteligent person can reallize how they treat the people only after reading several rules... Before I joined them, I though that it can't be so bad there, i though that people talking just because they are not enough mature, but now i reallized that it is even worse than I expected.

Positive things: travelling (but allways something inside you is telling u that after all you will be back in Doha and you just can't be relaxed wherever you are like Emirates, Etihad, Gulf Air, Singapore and all other crew in hotels because you can't take not even a cocktail if that is more than 12h before pick up because if someone report you - you will be in BIG trouble, including jail and that happen once to one asian guy when someone just reported him that he was drinking a red wine in some hotel at the evening and his flight was in the morning). Anoher positive things are nice colegues (but also there is big procent of snakes that we can't trust)...

At the end, as you can see, there is just few good things there and even few good things are interfered with bad and negative things so there is more negative than positive things.

Now, Emirates and Etihad - for sure there is also some strict policy aboput something and crew is also not 100% happy , but there is another way of thinking in managemant and crew is happier that in QR and more relaxed because they are living their lifes and they are enjoying.


I hope that I helped with my truly experience especially to those who are in doubt to join or not to join Qatar Airways.

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Old 17th May 2011, 14:27
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Thanks katarko

You're wasting your time I'm afraid - they don't listen
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Old 17th May 2011, 18:02
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I just came home from Doha, finished relations with QR

Give full support to everything katarko wrote. Anyway, in Spain there's a famous quote we way: Rules are made to be broken.
We do have all these rules, but as always, there's the option to be able to handle situations without following them. Just be intelligent, smart, don't be an asshole, keep your mouth closed, don't trust people, only your best friends.

Though, life for me in that country is too difficult, no human rights, abusive temperatures, etc...

Good luck for those who are trying to join QR!! I also did one year ago after reading some posts in several forums. You don't realize until you get there and live it.

Cheers buddies!
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Old 17th May 2011, 19:40
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hi guys

i have a question for you and hope to find the answer.

i have an experience as a cabin crew with fly dubai(low cost carrier) but i didnt stay for long time i resigned after 4 month, now i am thinking about applying for qatar,,is that will affect my application?

hope to get the answer soon ,

thanks
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Old 17th May 2011, 20:41
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Don't worry, it's a positive thing, not a problem hehehe
They recruit people with previous experience. Just write in your CV that you've been there for about 3 years, so you can be fast-track
They won't check it.
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Old 17th May 2011, 23:56
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ms.solo,


Tell them that you worked as a "Line trainer" so you will be performance officer in Qatar Airways in next 18 months.
Btw, if you check "Performance Officer" in Google, you will find that in White House there are performance officers (I just don't know what are they doing and what kind off admistration or what type of protocol).

But that is one more proof how sick they are in Qatar Airways.

Position that normal companies calling "Check purser" or "Crew line checker" they call "Performance officer" to make it more sound and extraordinary.

What is next?

(New) Doha International Airport they will call "Aircraft Carrier" ???
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Hi all,

I just received the final clearance from Qatar - joining in max. 2 weeks.

Katarco - valuable words but i will tell you something: I am not surprised, but where I come from, it is much worse, trust me
If you have some piece of advice, I would highly appreciate it!

Sorry for bothering, can you tell me what period of time have you been with them?
I am just curious if you made it through the first contract, as the conditions there are hectic, as everyone is telling overhere...

Thanks and regards!

PS: I repeat myself : if any advice for "survival"overthere, please don't hesitate to give it!...I am aware that it is that hard, but I need it so much, from so many points of view..

Warm hugs to everyone,
May
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Old 19th May 2011, 07:56
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Danger

Dear May26, you don't have contract like most of normal companies will offer. As you can see, there is "Offer of employment" and that is something different. Much different!
In Emirates for example, there is contract which is document and proof that both parts signed what is inside and also at the end of that contract there is stamp (original company stamp).
Offer of employment means NOTHING no matter what happen.
They can decide whatever they want but you don't have jurisdiction protection with that peace of paper.
Believe me, it can't be worse in your contry since you are from Europe and be very smart before you will say that because you will see what you have in Europe comparing it with Middle East. In my contry I allways have health insurance (and in 95% european countries too), I have my human rights, I can have sex today in 12:00 in central square in capitay city but then I WILL BE RESPONSIBLE to the jurisdiction and low set by the country and I win't be terminated on my job, and also I wont be responsible to my manager or CEO. You will se there in many situations that you are thinking how to live, and you will find yourself that you are comparing life standards where are u coming from with standards of your collegues since some of them are thinking not how to live, they think how to survive...
And that will be big difference and you will never think the same way again...

Also, you decided to join them like I did one year ago and I didn't believe to this experience that some people shared here since I wanted to fell that on my own skin. And I did. I am not sorry because that and I'm not regreat... But I know that I would never repeat that (NEVER,NEVER,NEVER).
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Thanks for Sharing!

Katarko I very much appreciate for sharing your experiences in QR. It would help us especially the new ones. To be a cabin crew is a dream job for me. I tried Emirates and Etihad but I didn't get my luck. So here I'm will be joining QR soon. I guess I wouldn't know unless I have tried and experienced it myself . I'll just be thinking to the idea of how lucky I am, out of the many applicants I got this job!
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There was a girl from my country who received job offer from Qatar AND Emirates at the same time. She chose QR because her date of joining was 4 weeks earlier than EK and she found the recruiters nicer.
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....and she will leave QR 2years earlier than she would lieave Emirates...



Also Mari, they are very nice and very kind during Open day (recruiters) you know why?
I am friend with one CSD that is also recruiter part-time and I have information that it's very difficult rensponsibility for them because they are responsible if they dont bring enough number of candidates in Doha.

So, usually they have like 15 people at the final interview and lets assume that 9 people will be invited to start with medicals.
If some candidates change his/her mind and decide not to go forward with medicals or after succesfull medical evaluation decide not to join the company after travel arangement is ready - that's recruiter mistake (that is how they are treated by company). Managemant believe that recruiters shoud be responsible for candidates motivation and also pressume who will change his/her mind latter during the process.

Human factor is allways rensposible and deserve punishment in Qatar Airways.

There was one famous joke in my time there:

For example, you guys all know that crew must be in Doha 12 hours before duty (which is also minimum rest time). But if crew is on leave and don't return to the base 12 hours before next duty than next 6 month can't leave the country and take leave (only on duty or if resign) and they will call crew member to the office and there is also warning letter and promotion is on hold for next 6/9/12 months. But also, if there is some problem with Qatar Airways aircraft (technical problem) and if take off is like 4hours late, even that is company mistake/reason but crew who was passenger on that flight will be invited to the office + warning letter etc.... So, they dont accept coincidences and these situations.

And we allways made joke abut that if they crash one and some crew that travel as a passsenger survive and rescue team save his/her life but less than 12h before duty, company will anyway give warning letter.

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That's not 100% true KATARKO. If you are late and don't respect the minimum rest due to technical problems, weather , or any other problems you might have which can not be controlled by human factors, they won't give you the warning letter.
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Post Warning letter

Well, then wont if crash or somethng like that...
But one person from Romania (my batchmate) resigned because of warning letter since that person didn't accept the fact about warning letter and without any personal mistake. Flight from FCO delayed due to some technical reasons and next schedule flight from FCO to DOH (more than 6 hours later) departed before than the delayed one (so that person was accepted for that flight).
Even that was QR problem, less than 12 hours before flight was unacceptable for company.
That is what that person told me and there is no reason for me to not believe. But maybe that was single case that was exception somehow.
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