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Old 13th Feb 2009, 16:03
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Hi there,
I was on this forum a while back..

Just something I want to say to all of us..but i dont want to scared anyone out alright, just something I want everyone to have a thought about it.

For those who got E-tckt and Visa to Dubai, please think about this..

1. how much you would earn when you are at trainning school?
- They will give you only just the basic salary and it will be about 6-10 weeks training.

2. After trainning, if the economic is still not looking good, more likely you will be put on SBY (Stand By) line or roster and how much you would get pay?

3. if they have mentioned about 6-9 months for some ppl whom they would contact back again after things are getting better. Would you be able to survive on those money which just only the basic salary until the economic is better to have more flight to fly out?

4. Dubai is not cheap to live at all esp for the food and publice transport.

5. It is very stressful in this crisis and as someone who worked with EK has mentioned "You do what they say" what do you think about it?

Sorry to say those things here but I just don't want to see another sad things about goin there and have to come back with tear after being in Dubai and have to deal with lots of terrible stuffs. Please think about plan B coz it would happen if some of you has to come back coz you have to stay at base on SBY and you can not go anywhere, hoping you will get call out from SBY to make some more money then nothing happen, in the end you come up with less then $1000/month. Again I have to apologised to any of you if this post would upset someone, but I really do worry about this. As I have been in that situation before..

P.S if anyone got upset by this post, please understand I did because I do worry about how they treat us even it's true that it's not their fault but still..it's not fair!!
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Hey...
How about not having a job at all ??? isn't it to be considered too ?
Economic crisi is everywhere .. anyjob in the time being is better than nothing. Thats what has to be considered ( my point of view ).


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:(

How about spending 7oo euros for medicals for nothing?! and not having job?
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tiniviel...yeah I hear ya....that has to be the absolute worst thing that could happen to anyone!

CS fellow portuguese mate, I can feel ur love bro and it was greatly apreciated at this point in time! (a vida tá fudida pah). btw thanx for the nick thing, I have short hair
I did not know about that lisbon thing on the 17th though!! hummm....I might consider going down there as I live in Porto. Thanx for the info!

To all of us, things are getting worse by the minute...we need some serious praying now. It really sux dreaming bout stuff and then just getting the absolute major worse fu**** timing ever!

Keep smiling
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To all

I understand how you feel for having no job and some have to spend money on the medical and got the withdraw. But I want you to think that you are at your home instead of somewhere that nobody could help you like you are at your home country. You still have your family to support you and also your friend to comfort you. Going to DXB in this situation I think it's quite stressful time. Emirates have already canceled some flight which they never done it before regardless the crisis.

I don't want to make you feel better by saying scary thing about DXB situation atm so I just try to ask those who are goin overthere to think about it again. And rememeber that DXB run the country with 2 laws, one is common law and one is Islamic law. Having say that some ppl who was stressed enough to swaring in the public could be imprisoned so I just don't know how to show the picture of the other side of DXB that's all. Otherwise, it would be too negative so I betta stay in the middle and let everyone has a thought.

I do feel sorry about those ppl who got withdrawn but I say much thing coz some ppl might think, I say thing because I didn't make it through the medical state so I betta say as much as I think it is appropriated to say in the public.

if anyone on this forum has a friend who work for Etihad you can ask your friend about EK situation I believe they would be able to tell you about it.

God will have better plan for you and please be grateful for what we are having atm, as I do as well.

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Old 13th Feb 2009, 17:59
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I have heard they would put the new crew on A380 and I would like you guys to keep in mind about the trainning as well while you have only basic to live on. I just don't want to see more ppl who has to take out from your pocket to live over there till you start flying.

And stressful is the big major. A380 is a very big A/C so I could imagine the trainning will be absolute not easy at all. Sorry because I have seen ppl who didn't pass the trainning and have to go back home after spent their own money again on top of their basic salary to live and that looked sad for me. but for some ppl who doesn't have a job at all, in that case, well you can give it to go. I really hope thing getting pick up sooner coz yes, it is crisis everywhere. I wish all the best for whom are goin overthere, and if thing was not what you hope for please be strong and be calm to deal with it.

God bless.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 19:11
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at least they have told us before we go over to Dubai- imagine if we went over and trained for a few weeks and then they had to send us home as couldn't afford to keep us on! that would be horrific- so things can be worse!

when do you think emirates will contact accepted people who completed medicals again?
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 22:37
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Good luck to you all!

Unfortuneatly after a month of waiting I got the email saying that I was unsuccessful this time, that its not a reflection of me as a candidate and they will contact me in 6-9 months to reapply. Hopefully world financial crises is over then. I'm disappointed but not discouraged and am applying for other airlines, but Emirates is still a dream I'd like to fulfill one day. Just about to check out Etihad and truly hope that Emirates does contact me in 6-9 months, otherwise I'll get back to them in a year. Good luck to you all and stay strong and positive and you will succeed in the way that is right for you xoxo
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 23:05
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Hi Oxaliza, I really don't know who your contacts are but I would like to clarify a few things that you have mentioned.

1. how much you would earn when you are at trainning school?
- They will give you only just the basic salary and it will be about 6-10 weeks training.


Training its 6 weeks, 1st week its the induction week, 2nd and 3rd are S.E.P., 4th its G.M.T. (1st aids), and 5th and 6th week service, so, the basic salary its only for 6 weeks.

2. After trainning, if the economic is still not looking good, more likely you will be put on SBY (Stand By) line or roster and how much you would get pay?

No one knows what would happen in 6 weeks time, but believe me that I particulary don't think that many crew will get the chance to sit at home doing nothing, the aircrafts are still arriving, people is leaving and recruitment will stop, therefore everyone on board will have to work extra hard to cover up for the missing crew.

3. if they have mentioned about 6-9 months for some ppl whom they would contact back again after things are getting better. Would you be able to survive on those money which just only the basic salary until the economic is better to have more flight to fly out?

Again, you will start to get the flight paid as soon as you start flying, usually happens a couple of days after graduation.

4. Dubai is not cheap to live at all esp for the food and publice transport.

Since everything it's provided then the money that you spend its usually in food, I've never taken a bus in Dubai, but I know that its very cheap, taxis aren't that cheap, but again, the money that you get it's more than enough, the problem is that when the new people arrives somehow they all run out of money because they go mad on shopping, and spend more than they get in mobile phone, camera, computer, MP3, TV, I mean, its great to have it but maybe not everything at once.

5. It is very stressful in this crisis and as someone who worked with EK has mentioned "You do what they say" what do you think about it?

Please tell me of any company that it's not like this, c'mon, its a job and you do what they say, with over 10000 cabin crew, rules must be followed, if everyone do what they want then I don't know what will happen?.

Emirates have already canceled some flight which they never done it before regardless the crisis.

Yes apparently Nagoya is going, however its not the first one, as far as I know Baku, Comoros and Alexandria were also gone long before the crisis, if the route doesn't make money then its not rocket sience, it must go !!

I have heard they would put the new crew on A380 and I would like you guys to keep in mind about the trainning as well while you have only basic to live on. I just don't want to see more ppl who has to take out from your pocket to live over there till you start flying.

Thanks for your concern, but EK have been training A380 crew since last year, so, at least the new crew will only have to learn one aircraft type and won't get confussed, money-wise will all be the same.

Please check the facts before posting all this negative statements, I understand that you want to empathize with everyone here and please keep doing it !!!!, but by writing this you are not making anyone a favor.
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Pls Do Not Discourage Anyone From Reaching Their Goal..

I agree with Leito...
There is no such need to discourage people from reaching the Emirates Dream..
All this negative energy and negative thoughts must be avoided..
obviously everyone has the right to express in words their own thoughts and feelings but pls let us not be negative as the situation is already bad....
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Old 14th Feb 2009, 09:10
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DOJ 27 March

Hi guys,

I am one of the many wannabes cc who were waiting the final approval from EK. A few days ago I received the email that says they will re-contact me when the new course start dates will be confirmed. I am not so disappointed because after reading you in the last weeks I prepared myself on receiving this kind of email.
I don't even think they have been unfaith, the global crisis is very big and they had to re-asses their business strategy as many other companies and airlines are doing. So guys, there is nothing we can do, this is not our fault. Keep fingers crossed, I am sure they will re-contact us in the future! Think how expensive would be for them to recruit ppl around the world, of course it would be cheaper to call us who have done all the tests required. I am positive.
Congrats to the new joiners who are going to leave shortly, have a nice time in Dubai!!
Cheers
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Well said Leito

Got to agree 100% with you.

Life is not all roses & moonshine.

One must ride the "bumps" & enjoy the "slides"

However, all of you, NEVER give up on your dreams - it is the essence of your driving force, the push & determination to achieve your goals!

If you give up on chasing your dream, you will be lost before you even start.

Believe me guys & girls, I have endured just as much ( if not more ) stress than my daughter (DOJ 27 Feb), but I motivate her to be positive.

If you believe in yourself, your race is halfway won.

For those of you have been unsuccessful, be strong, don't give up, and one day you WILL benefit thereby.

Once again - GOOD LUCK to each & every one of you.

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Old 14th Feb 2009, 12:50
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Thank you Leito.

and I got your private message. well, i already said clearly that I don't want to make anyone upset or make the situation worse. I do understand that what your dream and lots of ppl dream to be with EK.

I still haven't got the answer from you Leito, you mention that they short of crew and needs new crew to cover up the flight and I asked you to please give me and everyone answer why they are leaving EK. And you still didn't correct me if I am wrong about Etihad and the share with EK.

I would be happy to have a job with security not just to fly. I was a cabin crew and now I work for another airline as well. I would love to back and fly again with EK or any another airline if it will be providing me a job satisfaction and security for the future.

Sorry to make some of you upset as I have awared of that before I posted that messages but apparently some of you got the email flagship say about trainning A380 and flying A380 only.

As I try to ask you Leito, because you are working for EK so please tell me and everyone here on this forum. How much you would get paid if you are flying only A380 and only 3 times per months. Correct me anything if I was wrong. This is something I would like to find out for lots of people who still waiting to fly and go to live in DXB. As I said I am worry about how much they already spent on the medical and stuffs.

So sorry guys if you think I get back on this forum to bashing EK coz I didn't make it through like lots of your guys. But it's not and I am up here to confront Leito to explain to everyone for all the question I have asked by private messages.

To be honest, I want those answer for everyone.

1. The share purchasing between EK and EY
2. A380 only not flying another A/C
3. The money that we would earned if we have only 3times per months flying.
4. A garantee no A/C on ground for maintenance and pull the flight back plus put us on the SBY.

I am here for you to blame if you still think I posted all of this to be a negative, and if anyone don't want to know all those answers regarding the question above. I am here to be blamed that I am nonsense.

And I really wish I could get a job that give me a job security and future. I know thing get better at time. And EK will get better as well, either by themselves or with money from another airline who come as a investor.

Please again Leito, please do not just say this thing and disappeared with private message coz I still don't know why no one try to point out about what could be in this crisis. I understand everyone want to be positive. Do you want to make everything look positive without be honest and be realistic?

You told me on a private message that your Plan B is a disco in Dubai, sorry I don't think anyone here want to think about going to dance as you can do right now, They want to know the true,and they want to know about their future so if you said you work for EK please tell everyone here so they can feel more secure to go overthere. And again please correct me if I am wrong. I still never want to give up to back to fly again but how about telling people the true as you are working for EK atm so if I was right, some of us can decide to go for another airline and get their dream come true. Making a dream is a mean a lot to me and lots of ppl so let be real and tell us the true please. Leito, please do not avoiding this by private message and said that I already know better than you (after I told you whom I contected to). Is it mean I was right or I was wrong???? Or it is just a rumour???? I think not only me want to know about this. People here are stressed more than enough so please tell us the true Leito.

I wish everyone who are waiting to go have the best of luck with everything, and if things overthere is better than my stupid prediction please tell me. I really want to know the true. By the way, Happy Valentine's to everyone. I wish everyone all the best. God bless

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Old 14th Feb 2009, 12:59
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Do not be depressed!!

I've got same mail as well.... I was shocked but I could be ready to get it since I had been reading this site.

I wanna say to everyone who received the same email as me. Do not be so depressed. We can spend the unexpected time to gain various experiences or relax if you have been working hard so far... What we will do while waiting a call totally depends on us, so let's use the spare time effectively!!!

Hope to see you guys in Dubai soon and always wish everyone can get over this hard time xxxxx
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Well done Leito i think your post was spot on!

Oxaliza - it would be difficult for Leito to tell you everyones reasons for leaving as i am sure they are all different. Airlines have a huge turnover of staff and with Emirates being based in Dubai i would hazard a guess that the majority miss home and want to go back. Add to that the usual grumbles, rosters, pay, dubai etc etc.

It would also be difficult to tell you exactly how much you would get paid every month. Flight pay is paid to crew chocks on to chocks off and so how much you earn depends on how many flights you do and where those fights are to. Obviously you will earn more flying pay for e.g a JFK flight than you would a LHR. Nobody can tell you for sure you earnings and it would be wrong to do so as you would go in with certain expectations which may or may not come to fruition.

I am sorry to hear that some of you have undertaken medicals are your own cost and are now getting THE email. However if you look at your cup half full rather than half empty, the email says you will be contacted again when things are looking better. Not necessarily the news that you were all looking for but definitely not a NO....so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Emirates was my fourth airline and i can say in all honesty the best i have ever worked for. Hang on in there and stay positive.
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Hi Thank flygirl28

I got told on the open day by the recruitment team, they are not much turn over that why we can not hope of move up to the higher position. And that's what I try to point it out between what the recruitment team told us on 6 DEC 08 sydney Hilton hotel. If anyone who were on that day could you please confirm this if my ears was having a problem.

So it is a different between what Leito said and what the recruitment team said to us. I do remember this because I want to back to fly again to get my career progression and the future. They said it's not much because not many crew leaving!!!! So who I should listened to?? please tell me.

i agree that EK is one of the good airline to work for. But the idea of point it out about this is for those ppl who will have to fly only on A380 only and the destination will be JFK, ICN, SYD, AKL etc. which not that much of the pax to fill it up the flight now aday, of couse they are still flying but perhape not that frequent that's why some of the cabin crew would fly only 3 times a month on A380, and what if the new joiner got told to fly only on A380 only and flying 3 times a month till the economic is get better. And I guess from some of THE email to re-contact in 6-9 months that could help us predict that they are hoping thing will get better and it might be better by that time. BUT how can they survive on only 3times flying a months for 6 months. I know SYD you have max 48hrs layover and the meal allowance is $50AUD a day, LHR is 60pounds a day and 24 hrs layover, what else? apprx, the new crew would get about how much??? And this is the point that I do worry for some ppl who already has a job then resign and has to leave home for that and as we know about the airline...NEVER promised to anyone!!!

Stay positive and think about a Plan B. I think it is indeed atm.

I was a cabin crew and lived in the middle east, I understand about the sign on and sign off system at base, flying pay and meal allowance system. That's why I can guess how much the new joiner would get from only 3times flying a month. Yes, we always say it hards to say depends... but now I try to point this out what we could estimate for those who never flown. I know you know about EK situation very well and some of confidenciality that you do not supposed to disclose on this forum so let me drop the clue about Etihad and the share. may be this would be something clarity why I do concerns for new joiner.

And yes that what the OZZY said half full or half empty. I am a 2/3 full not a half that's why I look more futher about 6-9 months for those new joiner who got flagship to be trained only A380 and no trainning or fly on the other types of A/C. And why no one from EK can explained to everyone here about the share and stuff that EK has a deal with.... WHY no one say anything, I would love to disclose this info on this forum but as I am one of airline staff, I would rather keep my principle regarding to my career moral. So for anyone who know about this YES you know for sure why I do worry for the other ppl.

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No more the say "Walking to London"

Short of crew or changing from MAX crew on board to be MIN crew on board? B777 are no longer walking to london coz EK need to save the money so now those cabin crew work harder to cover up but not much of ppl are leaving. Flygirl28 said.. individual reason ie. pay, roster, dubai. Good point to think about it, right????

Work harder, yes you must be grumpy as a human been, how about one of you Leito or Flygirl28 post you roster on this forum to show how it looks like atm. And please don't say this is confidential, not it is not.

Check out airboy web, this month he got 11 days off which usually is 8 days off a month. He started to fly in 2006, I guess he already got pretty much most of the A/C types licence to fly and how many crew who got those licence?? Yes the crew who been there long enough. Does EK need more crew to be trainned for the other A/C?? No, I don't think so.

A380?? yes, new joiner will have a great opportunity to be trainned on it.

Where they flying to? SYD, AKL, ICN, JFK, LHR, what else? How often??

That is your homework for new joiner so you can have a plan B to support yourself while you were there and have to wait another 6 months for the Boing777, etc.

The new joiner, who don't want to make the money back after spent those futune on the medical?? Pls put your hand up!!

NO better not to put high expectation, Yes let be reasonable. 6-9 months another waiting, guys bring some more money with you, so when you feel bored you can go out to see Dubai for a sight seeing, go for ski, go for window shopping etc. Oh another thing the internet is real expensive compare to Australia if anyone from OZ going there. Learn to cook from now, get a nice but simple dishes so you can cook at home in DXB for the time you have to stay on SBY. Learn to do knitting, that's one of the good idea but I'm not sure how much for the material overthere would cost.

About cooking, making pastry is a fun thing as well, you guys can get friends who are in the same boat to join the time, making a biscuit, a cake etc. that would be fun for those stressful time esp you have to be away from home. Telephone bill is one of the major concerns from my expereince, airtimes to call out aren't cheap. The bus overthere is usually will be use by those construction worker or labour. Taxi, be awared they got the meter but they don't want to use it!! Try to be nice to yourself till the economic is getting better sooner. Inshallah!!

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wow Oxa...now my eyes are hurting...

Mate if I was living in Syd I wouldn't even consider working in the middle east! I lived in Syd for a year and I miss it heaps!! You're lucky to live in the very best city in the world, hands down!
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Wow Oxa.........

Could you for one moment stop fussing like a mother hen??.......and stick to the topic, plz don't hijack this thread by virtue of your own emotions.....your posts are factless & full of guesses....and although I believe in good intent, in my humble opinion is causing more harm & this negative influence surely is not needed at a time when the still hopefulls are biting their nails in anticipation of a positive answer....

What will happen, will happen, and is really for all intensive purposes beyond our control - so stop clouding the issue.

Chill please...?

All the applicants here I believe are intelligent, grownups, who can make their own decisions.

Apply your own good advice to you, yourself, & get on with your life, pretty please?

So yeah my 2c worth.....

But still my message is : CHIN UP PEOPLE & NEVER GIVE UP

....and to those still waiting for answers - God Bless & the best of luck!
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Doj March 13

Any Ek Wannabes Out Here Who Have Doj As 13th March Who Have Received The Withdrawal Email Or The Final Approval??
If No One Have Received Anything At All, Then I Guess This Week We Will Get Hot News..please Be Prepared...

I'm Doing The Best To Make Up My Mind...

Peace Out Guys And Good Luck
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