PPL in NW UK?
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I know what you mean D-B. I once took a Cherokee 180, four-up out of Nakuru (5,600ft?) and I swear the only reason we got out was that we all breathed in at Vr. Definitely "Learnt about flying" from that one. Mind you four-up with full tanks in a 172 at Denham (250ft) on a very hot Summer's day can be pushing the envelope.so perhaps I didn't learn my lesson fully.
As Nairobi is at 5000 feet you'd spend the first 5 minutes winding up the altimeter if you used QFE
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I tried it once at my home airport in Alberta - 3700'.
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How did you get on, double-barrel? When I learned to fly I looked at Chester and Liverpool but settled on Barton (live nearby). Quiet and lots of uncontrolled airspace around Chester but landing fees expensive, as I recall. Bartonis pretty busy at the weekend and surrounded by controlled airspace. Obstacles, of a sort, at each end of the main (grass) runway: someone told ME "if you can handle Barton, you can handle anything!"