LGKR Corfu Exec Terminal Fees - FRAPORT
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LGKR Corfu Exec Terminal Fees - FRAPORT
Once again FRAPORT has opened its GA Exec Terminal in Corfu Airport. Features are:
1- Mandatory for all aircraft exceeding 1,700kg MTOW
2- 2,400 EURO per passage regardless of aircraft size, weight, capacity or number of pax
So a round trip to Corfu in anything bigger than a twin commanche works out around 6,000 euro.
Have protested to Fraport, the Handlers, and EBAA about it, but no once seems to care about the abuse of a monopoly.
Only alternative is LGIO on the mainland, two hour taxi and ferry journey but cost about 200 euro instead of 6,000!
1- Mandatory for all aircraft exceeding 1,700kg MTOW
2- 2,400 EURO per passage regardless of aircraft size, weight, capacity or number of pax
So a round trip to Corfu in anything bigger than a twin commanche works out around 6,000 euro.
Have protested to Fraport, the Handlers, and EBAA about it, but no once seems to care about the abuse of a monopoly.
Only alternative is LGIO on the mainland, two hour taxi and ferry journey but cost about 200 euro instead of 6,000!
Last edited by stephenwilliams40; 16th May 2024 at 10:32. Reason: Clarification
I agree this pricing is not justified. Also due to the average salary being low in that area (last time I asked it was less than 600 euros a month for a handler).
A disgrace.
A disgrace.
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What to say. BECAUSE THEY CAN.
It will ever be like this. Its Business Aviation. Starts with Handling, Catering, Maintenance and so on. Face it as long its not your own money.
And if its your own money, you can afford it or you just go somewhere else to get ripped Off.
It will ever be like this. Its Business Aviation. Starts with Handling, Catering, Maintenance and so on. Face it as long its not your own money.
And if its your own money, you can afford it or you just go somewhere else to get ripped Off.
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LGKR Corfu Exec Terminal Fees - FRAPORT - worse to come!
For clarity I would point out that this is not a complaint against the handling company who inform me they recognise and disagree with the Fraport terminal charge. The charge is described as “GA-BAT processing fee- per passenger carrying sector, 4,960 Euro”
Similar charges are also being rolled out in several other Greek airports including KGS and JMK.
The handling companies are obliged to collect the charge, and some do so without any additional disbursement supplement. However, in my view all the handlers should collectively take a stronger position against the airport authority and refuse to collect what seems an unfair and extortionate fee, being completely disproportionate to the number of passengers or size of aircraft.
It has been pointed out by another forum participant that FRAPORT do not list this charge in their currently published scale of charges; https://www.fraport-greece.com/uploa...0-%20ENG-1.pdf
Perhaps there are grounds to challenge it by reason of such non-disclosure but I am sure your aircraft will not be released to leave without paying it!
We and I suppose many other independent travellers are forced to consider Greece as an unwelcoming “no-go-area”at this time. The image attached has been redacted to remove the name of the handler, at their request.
Similar charges are also being rolled out in several other Greek airports including KGS and JMK.
The handling companies are obliged to collect the charge, and some do so without any additional disbursement supplement. However, in my view all the handlers should collectively take a stronger position against the airport authority and refuse to collect what seems an unfair and extortionate fee, being completely disproportionate to the number of passengers or size of aircraft.
It has been pointed out by another forum participant that FRAPORT do not list this charge in their currently published scale of charges; https://www.fraport-greece.com/uploa...0-%20ENG-1.pdf
Perhaps there are grounds to challenge it by reason of such non-disclosure but I am sure your aircraft will not be released to leave without paying it!
We and I suppose many other independent travellers are forced to consider Greece as an unwelcoming “no-go-area”at this time. The image attached has been redacted to remove the name of the handler, at their request.
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It has been pointed out by another forum participant that FRAPORT do not list this charge in their currently published scale of charges; https://www.fraport-greece.com/uploa...0-%20ENG-1.pdf
A0847/24 - FOR OPR REASONS, ALL GENERAL AVIATION AND BUSINESS AVIATION FLT
OPR AT KERKIRA AIRPORT MUST OBTAIN A CONFIRMATION ON THE AVBL OF THE
GENERAL AVIATION AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES FROM THE GND
HANDLING SVC PROVIDERS.
ALL CAT 1 REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING ALL GROUND HANDLING
SVC PROVIDERS OBTAINING A PPR, MUST OBTAIN A GENERAL AVIATION AND
BUSINESS AVIATION GND SERVICES CONFIRMATION NUMBER (GENERAL
AVIATION/BUSINESS AVIATION GSCN), AFTER OBTAINING THE PPR. 31 MAR 21:01 2024
UNTIL 30 JUN 20:59 2024. CREATED: 14 MAR 12:12 2024
OPR AT KERKIRA AIRPORT MUST OBTAIN A CONFIRMATION ON THE AVBL OF THE
GENERAL AVIATION AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES FROM THE GND
HANDLING SVC PROVIDERS.
ALL CAT 1 REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING ALL GROUND HANDLING
SVC PROVIDERS OBTAINING A PPR, MUST OBTAIN A GENERAL AVIATION AND
BUSINESS AVIATION GND SERVICES CONFIRMATION NUMBER (GENERAL
AVIATION/BUSINESS AVIATION GSCN), AFTER OBTAINING THE PPR. 31 MAR 21:01 2024
UNTIL 30 JUN 20:59 2024. CREATED: 14 MAR 12:12 2024
GSCN NOTAM published:
A1635/24 - FOR OPERATIONAL REASONS, ALL GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION FLT OPERATING AT KOS AIRPORT MUST OBTAIN A CONFIRMATION ON THE AVAILABILITY AND SUFFICIENCY OF THE GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES FROM THE GROUND HANDLING SERVICE PROVIDERS. ALL CATEGORY 1 REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING ALL GROUND HANDLING SERVICE PROVIDERS OBTAINING A PPR, MUST OBTAIN A GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES CONFIRMATION NUMBER (GABA GSCN), AFTER OBTAINING THE PPR.
28 MAY 02:00 2024 UNTIL 28 AUG 20:59 2024. CREATED: 10 MAY 11:35 2024
The below is a advance notice from GOLDAIR HANDLING - Basically they pre-inform on what's to come for Kos Airport, same with the case of Corfu.
Following the issuance of the above NOTAM valid from 28 May 2024 until 28 August 2024 (it will be prolonged until 15/10/24) regarding KGS airport, please be informed that the handling of all GA/BA flights’ passengers will be effected through an exclusive route outside of the main terminal building with separate passport control, x-ray screening and exclusive lounge area.
Therefore, an extra charge will be added on the above basic handling prices during the aforementioned period:
For Live-In/Ferry-Out & Ferry-In/Live-Out GA/BA flights the cost is EUR 2.000 per flight
For Live-In/Live-Out GA/BA flights the cost is EUR 4.000 per flight
A1635/24 - FOR OPERATIONAL REASONS, ALL GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION FLT OPERATING AT KOS AIRPORT MUST OBTAIN A CONFIRMATION ON THE AVAILABILITY AND SUFFICIENCY OF THE GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES FROM THE GROUND HANDLING SERVICE PROVIDERS. ALL CATEGORY 1 REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING ALL GROUND HANDLING SERVICE PROVIDERS OBTAINING A PPR, MUST OBTAIN A GENERAL AND BUSINESS AVIATION GROUND SERVICES CONFIRMATION NUMBER (GABA GSCN), AFTER OBTAINING THE PPR.
28 MAY 02:00 2024 UNTIL 28 AUG 20:59 2024. CREATED: 10 MAY 11:35 2024
The below is a advance notice from GOLDAIR HANDLING - Basically they pre-inform on what's to come for Kos Airport, same with the case of Corfu.
Following the issuance of the above NOTAM valid from 28 May 2024 until 28 August 2024 (it will be prolonged until 15/10/24) regarding KGS airport, please be informed that the handling of all GA/BA flights’ passengers will be effected through an exclusive route outside of the main terminal building with separate passport control, x-ray screening and exclusive lounge area.
Therefore, an extra charge will be added on the above basic handling prices during the aforementioned period:
For Live-In/Ferry-Out & Ferry-In/Live-Out GA/BA flights the cost is EUR 2.000 per flight
For Live-In/Live-Out GA/BA flights the cost is EUR 4.000 per flight
Such NOTAMs will not justify horrendous prices.
There must be some EU law about unfair pricing, perharps an aviation lawyer could dig further.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...LEX:32005L0029
There must be some EU law about unfair pricing, perharps an aviation lawyer could dig further.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...LEX:32005L0029
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I am not entirely sure what the point of this thread is? That people who pay 500k€+ per year to have their own jet, crew, managment company and everything that goes with it, have to pay an additional 5k€ to reach their summer holiday destination?
To me it sounds like someone sold a charter flight and their pricing was slightly off and now they have to take a financial hit. If that is true, delete the photo of the invoice before some CAA nut sees it.
The point is to make the difference between a correct way of doing business and abusive prices.
The customer wants to understand what he/she is charged for, what he/she gets for the money.
And this is not clear at all for the Corfu FBO.
The customer wants to understand what he/she is charged for, what he/she gets for the money.
And this is not clear at all for the Corfu FBO.
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Because we may be able to afford to own and operate our private aircraft, and afford a home on a beautiful island, this does not mean we are content to waste or be fleeced of significant amounts of money that are out of line with value or the usual service charges in the vast majority of the worlds aviation destinations.
This new terminal charge has nothing to do with the handler salary. The handling company did not receive a cent of this fee 4,800 euro fee imposed by the privileged gatekeeper (FRAPORT) it being retained wholly by FRAPORT..
I can fully understand the gatekeeper seeking to recover investment made in an improved infrastructure facility. The argument here is that the mechanism for such cost recovery should be proportionately scaled to its use, and amortised over a period of time in line with usual financial/accounting practices. Right now the owner of a 1,999kg Seneca flying with his wife for a weekend are charged the same as 12 pax arriving in a 45tn Gulfstream. This cannot be a logical or fair situation.
This new terminal charge has nothing to do with the handler salary. The handling company did not receive a cent of this fee 4,800 euro fee imposed by the privileged gatekeeper (FRAPORT) it being retained wholly by FRAPORT..
I can fully understand the gatekeeper seeking to recover investment made in an improved infrastructure facility. The argument here is that the mechanism for such cost recovery should be proportionately scaled to its use, and amortised over a period of time in line with usual financial/accounting practices. Right now the owner of a 1,999kg Seneca flying with his wife for a weekend are charged the same as 12 pax arriving in a 45tn Gulfstream. This cannot be a logical or fair situation.
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Well, sometimes charges do not make any sense at all and as Dont worry has mentioned it, they charge it because they can. This charge has nothing to do with recouping the costs of investment but is just there to deter too many small aircraft flying into Corfu.
Just to give you some examples from around the world - Heathrow charges from 6.000 to 11.000Ł per turnaround depending on your jet size. Vienna charges a 600€ handling charge even if you just come by with your C172 to do a touch and go and Doha used to charge 25.000$ (of which 2.500$ just to drive the passengers from the aircraft to the FBO) per turnaround during the world cup.
Just to give you some examples from around the world - Heathrow charges from 6.000 to 11.000Ł per turnaround depending on your jet size. Vienna charges a 600€ handling charge even if you just come by with your C172 to do a touch and go and Doha used to charge 25.000$ (of which 2.500$ just to drive the passengers from the aircraft to the FBO) per turnaround during the world cup.
Last edited by WanderingAround; 24th May 2024 at 21:36.
This ^^^^^. Another example, if an FBO can hangar say ten bizjets, when number 11 comes along wanting a place then they'll increase the rental until one of the incumbents drops out and goes elsewhere. That's business. To be fair to FBO's though many don't make vast profits because the more money they make, the more gets passed on up the pyramid to the airport etc. In the end it's always the consumer that pays, be it bizjets or prop jockey's: if you can't afford it, well, you can't afford it.
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The weekend protests in Palma Mallorca against mass tourism might just serve to help authorities recognise the value of high end tourism and private aircraft visitors!.......
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/new...c4f638e8&ei=56
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/new...c4f638e8&ei=56
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The weekend protests in Palma Mallorca against mass tourism might just serve to help authorities recognise the value of high end tourism and private aircraft visitors!.......
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/new...c4f638e8&ei=56
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/new...c4f638e8&ei=56
As long as they only protest in the streets and not attack again our private terminals and chain themselves to aircraft, it is still okay.
Mallorca: 90% of its income comes from tourism. These people are just cutting the branch that they are sitting on.
Mallorca: 90% of its income comes from tourism. These people are just cutting the branch that they are sitting on.
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Quality tourism
Fully agreed with the above, but it was the comments of the government minister that I found encouraging “Marga Prohens, the president of the Balearic Islands regional government, said authorities must target “quality tourism” rather than simply trying to attract more tourists.
“The volume model has come to an end: you cannot grow more in volume but in value. The model of growing in volume has reached its limit,”
“The volume model has come to an end: you cannot grow more in volume but in value. The model of growing in volume has reached its limit,”
Yes, although the Mallorquin government has been saying this for a few years now, but the masses are still coming 
How do you want to stop them, we are living in free countries and everyone can travel where and when they wish. Luckily!
How do you want to stop them, we are living in free countries and everyone can travel where and when they wish. Luckily!
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