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Originally Posted by Pilot Positive
Has anybody got any ideas about the deal Bjets is cutting with Hangar8? Seems they might be training Indian pilots and shipping them out with a few 100 hours at the expense of UK FOs?
Don't get too comfy.
Don't get too comfy.
Well let's see. To fly for Hangar 8 they'd have to have JAA licences plus the right to live and work here.
Which would kind of make their ethnic origin irrelevant.
So........ask yourself. Is it likely or just another rumour that doesn't hold water?
Now. If you're talking about JAA licenced european pilots going through Hangar 8 and other UK operators to gain experience there could be some truth to the story. Those european pilots will then be flying for BJets (it might be argued) at the expense of Indian pilots.
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Thanks Flintstone. 
And apologies - perhaps I could have articulated my sentence better and have said "other pilots" rather than "Indian pilots". The point was that Bjet pilots, regardless of their origin, could be displacing UK pilots in jobs (albeit in the short term?)
Given their apparant immediate need for pilots it would be a fair assumption to say that if they did want to get pilots type rated in the UK and meet DGCA requirements they would need to look at initially placing them with UK operators. But who?
What happened with the EBJ deal? Not enough capacity? Not enough hours in a specified timeframe? Or is the EBJ deal working alongside possible deals with other UK operators e.g. H8? If so, who else is on the list?
Perhaps you are in a better position than me to advise of the specific details of any deal - it would make commercial sense if Bjets are paying these operators to take these pilots on or at the min. the operators get these pilots for free. But who will they be replacing?
And apologies - perhaps I could have articulated my sentence better and have said "other pilots" rather than "Indian pilots". The point was that Bjet pilots, regardless of their origin, could be displacing UK pilots in jobs (albeit in the short term?)Given their apparant immediate need for pilots it would be a fair assumption to say that if they did want to get pilots type rated in the UK and meet DGCA requirements they would need to look at initially placing them with UK operators. But who?
What happened with the EBJ deal? Not enough capacity? Not enough hours in a specified timeframe? Or is the EBJ deal working alongside possible deals with other UK operators e.g. H8? If so, who else is on the list?
Perhaps you are in a better position than me to advise of the specific details of any deal - it would make commercial sense if Bjets are paying these operators to take these pilots on or at the min. the operators get these pilots for free. But who will they be replacing?
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I'm not about to expose the 'who's paying whom' details. Suffice to say it'll cost each company something so no 'free pilots'. It's arguable as to whether or not they'll displace anyone. As I understand it these operators simply can't find experienced crew anyway.
The way I see it, those pilots being type rated by BJets avoid the trap of paying for their type rating, make useful contacts for the future (should they decide they want to come home after their bond is up) and for the low-timers get eased into jet flying without the shock of doing so in unfamiliar* Indian airspace.
Similar deals are being done with several companies. If BJets live up to their recruitment promises I'd say they'll all be needed.
*I struggled to come up with a polite word for what they might encounter down there. 'Unfamiliar' was my eighth word of choice.
The way I see it, those pilots being type rated by BJets avoid the trap of paying for their type rating, make useful contacts for the future (should they decide they want to come home after their bond is up) and for the low-timers get eased into jet flying without the shock of doing so in unfamiliar* Indian airspace.
Similar deals are being done with several companies. If BJets live up to their recruitment promises I'd say they'll all be needed.
*I struggled to come up with a polite word for what they might encounter down there. 'Unfamiliar' was my eighth word of choice.
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It does sound like a great opportunity for low timers to get a type rating, experience both UK and Indian airspace and broaden their horizons generally. God forbid if their mothers were to find out .... 
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Well, I did my interview and sim assessment in December, and still haven't received my travel costs back. I have written 3 times and have heard nothing. They have my bank account details and still nothing back!! I also got told I was highly recommended for teh job, and never heard anything from them - nothing! So I think it depends, some people get their money back and get a response, but the majority of us don't!
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As you know I have something of an interest in the interviews. While it's true that some people's expenses have not yet been refunded I was not aware that this applied to "the majority".
If you can tell me who all these people are I'll gladly chase things up on their behalf.
As you know I have something of an interest in the interviews. While it's true that some people's expenses have not yet been refunded I was not aware that this applied to "the majority".
If you can tell me who all these people are I'll gladly chase things up on their behalf.
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Hi Flintstone.
I have also had some difficulty in claiming expenses from my reported successful interview in Feb, despite having sent the appropiate forms, bank details etc. Any help or advice would be very welcome...
I have also had some difficulty in claiming expenses from my reported successful interview in Feb, despite having sent the appropiate forms, bank details etc. Any help or advice would be very welcome...
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I'm really disappointed to hear this. As some of you know I'm not a BJets employee but I do have some contacts there in connection with recruitment.
Their reimbursement system seems slow but then again, how many other companies pay you to attend an interview? Not all of them. That said I will gladly approach the company on behalf of those still waiting if they PM me with their real name, amount claimed and date of claim submission.
I repeat, I'm NOT a BJETS employee but am happy to try and help.
Their reimbursement system seems slow but then again, how many other companies pay you to attend an interview? Not all of them. That said I will gladly approach the company on behalf of those still waiting if they PM me with their real name, amount claimed and date of claim submission.
I repeat, I'm NOT a BJETS employee but am happy to try and help.
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I feel your frustrations everyone!! I had my interview in November.....was told to give notice in February, for a start date April 15th, and now there are "complications" and no answers about what they are??? They assure me that they still want me but no one will answer any calls or e-mails!! So I'm without a job, waiting.....I think it may be time to ask for my old job back!?
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Oh dear, that is bad.
Never sack your present boss until you have a letter or email of intent.
Unfortunately, the days of a deal of any description, being sealed with a handshake, kiss (of death) or a hug, are long gone.
Never sack your present boss until you have a letter or email of intent.
Unfortunately, the days of a deal of any description, being sealed with a handshake, kiss (of death) or a hug, are long gone.
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No, I wish.....I'm the only employee where I was, and he didn't hire anyone, else, so I don't forsee any problems, however, I was really looking forward to this opportunity!! I wish I knew what the problem was...I believe it is with the DGCA because I was hired as an FO, and from what I read, the DGCA won't let employers hire ex-pats past June 08.....I'm assuming that's the problem! (wouldn't make sense to take me on for a couple of months! I wish I had read about that before all this.....this is just speculation of course, because I haven't been told what the hold up is exactly!
Good luck everyone!
Good luck everyone!