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Old 2nd May 2000, 10:03
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Shanwick Shanwick
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Does anyone have any info on the comparison of these two companies? I've applied to Netjets (with no reply) but don't have any contact details for Flexjet.

How stable is the corporate market these days?

Would you leave an airline job to go there?

What are the chances of direct entry commands?

Would I get a job with 5400TT, 3500 PIC,
4000 Turbine and 800 corporate?

Any advice offered would be greatly appreciated.

Stress Free......whadda you think?
 
Old 2nd May 2000, 12:28
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Lookup "breaking into this sector"
 
Old 3rd May 2000, 03:12
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Check this website for a comparison:
http://www.fracstats.com

It is run by an Executive Jet Captain and he has done a great job compiling the information. (It deals mainly with the US operations but I think there's some info on Europe, too.)


I flew Learjets for FlexJet for about a year...would still be there if I didn't have a call from the only airline I applied to. (You can tell that I was happy there because I didn't shot-gun the airline applications. I chose which airline I would like to work at and applied there. If they hadn't called I'd still be happy as a proverbial clam driving Bombardier products!)

Hope you enjoy the info --

--Former FlexJet driver!
 
Old 9th May 2000, 15:48
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Well, well, well,
So you want to come back to this side of the fence, good decision. There are a few decent jobs around but as you probably remember they change hands under the table. With your flight time I'm sure there would be no problem. Surely you would have the mother of all bonds to clear?
Further discussion on the landline.
All the best.


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Old 9th May 2000, 18:58
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Shanwick--Hell yes you can get into this sector. You've got exceptionally good experience, esp. for European employers. NetJets Europe hires people with a lot less than that.

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Falcon 2000 Enters Fractional Service in Europe

The first Falcon 2000 for the NetJets Europe fractional ownership program arrived in Portugal in mid-April, and is the first of two 2000s that will serve as core fleet aircraft. A total of three 2000s will be delivered to NetJets Europe this year, with a fourth joining the fleet in January 2001. The first customer aircraft, which is already sold-out, will arrive in September, according to Bruce Huffman, Vice-President, International Operations.

In addition to the Falcons, the NJE fleet now consists of two Cessna Citation SIIs, three Citation VIIs, and seven Hawker 800s (five 800XPs and two 800As that are used as core aircraft). However the SIIs are slated for retirement sometime in 2001 because of the cost of complying with Europe's RVSM requirement, which begins in January 2002. The company said it is examining options for a new entry-level aircraft and expects to make an announcement before the end of the year.

NetJets' workforce now stands at 91 pilots and 53 other employees at the European headquarters outside Lisbon, Portugal. The company is "continuously recruiting" and expects to add at least 20 more flight crewmembers this year. The pilot force comes from 15 different countries and speaks 12 different languages, underscoring the fundamental challenge of conducting pan-European operations.

Utilization is now running at about 50 hours per aircraft per month, with 54 percent of the flying being conducted on behlaf of European owners and 35 percent for U.S. customers flying within Europe. The remaining 11 percent is charter and demonstration flights. Total time now is 10,500 hours and more than 8,000 flights since operations commenced in June 1996.

Most of the flying is being conducted in western Europe. Paris is the most common destination, followed by Zurich. Of the top 10 airports, four are around London, including Luton, Northolt, Farnborough, and Heathrow. However, the company has operated out of some 225 airports around Europe.

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From Business Commercial Aviation May 2000 issue page 42


 
Old 23rd May 2000, 21:11
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Thanks for all the advice fellas.

S.F. I'll speak to you soon!


Brgds

Shanny

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Old 25th May 2000, 02:29
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Basic difference betwixt the two is money. Last I heard, Netjets was paying skippers 70,000 Euros, which at current rates is a gnat's doodah over 40k sterling. Flexjets is offering a package (inc benefits, as I understand things)of 50k sterling for Lear drivers, 70k for Challenger skippers. For FOs, 30k sterling on the Lears, 50k on the Challenger. FJ wants you based within striking distance of London, Frankfurt or Copenhagen (choose your base), while NJ wants you within 1 hr of any international airport. FJ still keen to hear from potential candidates as I gather, preferably with previous bizjet experience (N.B. the latter please!!) They interviewed during the early part of the year but said interviews were "not as productive as expected".

Send CVs to:
Scott Baum
Director of Human Resources
Flexjet Europe A/S
Niels Juels Gade 5
DK-1059 Copenhagen K
Denmark

 
Old 6th Feb 2001, 23:54
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Shanwick,

The lady to contact now regarding Flexjet is Helen Christian crew recruitment advisor.
Tel 020 8538 0213

Hope this is of some help.
 
Old 7th Feb 2001, 16:59
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FL660,

I had a chat with them a couple of weeks ago, bases on offer were London and Copenhagen. Frankfurt wasnt mentioned. They appear to be getting ready for some intensive recruitment this year. HC's telephone number is listed above.

Mutt
 
Old 7th Feb 2001, 19:26
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The Latest address as of June last year!!!
Linde Alle 5B
DK 2850 Naerum
Copenhagen
Denmark
The company is not at the moment looking for any direct entry captains only F/O's,but is still interested in your CV as opportunities will come up time to time for D/E captains.Recruitment is happening now and there is a demand for Lj 31 and Lj60 slots to start next month.If you want more info give Helen a bell or send a CV to [email protected] luck.
 
Old 9th Feb 2001, 08:37
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Shanwick

Are you Gay ??

 
Old 9th Feb 2001, 18:58
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EGLL001,
I'm not quite sure what your question has to do with Netjets or Flexjets.


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Old 9th Feb 2001, 20:46
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FL660

Sorry for the delay - not sure but I will check with my contact (flies for FJ London based) either tonite or tomorrow and let you know a.s.a.p. Meanwhile mutt's answer certainly sounds pretty authoritative.

TTFN
 
Old 10th Feb 2001, 16:43
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660

Frankfurt is not open as a base,ONLY London and Copenhagen.
 
Old 11th Feb 2001, 20:43
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EGLL001,

I'm not but why do you ask?

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Old 11th Feb 2001, 21:37
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This is an interesting line,we await the outcome with bated breath.....NOT!
 
Old 11th Feb 2001, 22:57
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Gay!...He's absolutely over the moon!
 
Old 13th Feb 2001, 00:29
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EGLL001,
I've known Shanwick for years, hes one of the boys, youre way off the mark! Leave him alone. Why do you ask? Are you of that persuasion and interested in him?
You sound a bit dodgy to me.

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Old 13th Feb 2001, 04:25
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Read a post from EGLL001 on the french forum. I guess he was trying to stir the C**P and wind everybody up. Alhtoug a bit of french bashing makes me laugh when it's funny (Me frog), he wasn't. Extremely rude more like it, so since the post has been removed. Don't pay much attention to his comments.

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Old 15th Feb 2001, 14:02
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Hi Guys!

I eventually have a test day coming up for Flexjet. Has anyone been through their psych tests or on the sim ride ?
Curious to find out what it was like, seems like a good corporate co to work for...

Thanx in advance!
 


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